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r72rock
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: cez]
#19329837 - 12/26/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cez said: As a child and even in my later youth, I really thought I'd never die 
The idea never dawned on me until these past couple years with the introduction of psychedelics, DA and the misc philosophy that interests me. ...I musta thought I was quite special.
The topic of death is quite fascinating to me because it seems so real. The only thing that seems to be more real is the fact we seem to be living beings.
So when did you realize someday you won't be? (In this form at least)
One of my first memories. Or at least, potent memories that stuck with me. I must've been around 5. I felt like life was fake and a dream until then. Since then, life feels real that death's real.
I don't really care about achieving immortality through means of science or preservation. It feels to me like it wouldn't be dealing with our impermanence. Even if we did achieve immortality, not only would it be boring, but down the road, we'd still have to deal with our deaths because our universe is finite. It just puts our mortality off into a more distant future. I think that most people think that immortality would make them happy, but I don't think that's what would really make people happy...
I have no clue what would actually make people happy.
I try to remind myself daily that life is impermanent so that it's on my mind that I'm going to die.
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Chronic7
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: cez]
#19331731 - 12/27/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cez said: As a child and even in my later youth, I really thought I'd never die 
The idea never dawned on me until these past couple years with the introduction of psychedelics, DA and the misc philosophy that interests me. ...I musta thought I was quite special.
I think secretly everybody believes this until they get a bit older, and maybe even then, and i don't think its all out of fear of the unknown, fear of death, it's also out of an intuitive sense that we know we are the unknown, the unborn, uncreated, so it's not actually a belief that we as an individual won't die, it's more a knowing that we never existed in the first place
I personally didn't start thinking about death properly until my best friend died out of the blue, but before that it was probably when family pets died
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: cez]
#19331763 - 12/27/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's amazing to me that you guys even in adulthood still think you're never going to die. That just blows my mind. Even as a kid, I was very aware that one day I was going to die.
As a kid, I used to think that 20 was soooo old that I would surely be dead by then
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Chuckfinely
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: nooneman]
#19331936 - 12/27/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I cant remember ever not fearing death. Even as a very small child, 6 and younger, i had sever death anxiety.
I never feared monsters in the closet or anything, my nightmares were always just simply dieing
Its followed me into my 20s. Like today is my 23rd birthday and my prevailing thoughts as i woke up today were that i was one year closer to death, and that rather than acomplishing anything by now ive only managed to set myself up for a fairly dismal life
The older i get the more and more i feel my fear of death transforming into a sort of half-eagerness. I mean when youre dead theres no worry about money, place to stay, cant get thrown in jail, cant be lonely...etc
Doesnt sound too bad to me
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#19332016 - 12/27/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was five and my parents took my sibling and I out into a field away from the city lights to watch a meteor shower. It was so spectacular and intense, I haven't seen once like it since then. Watching the starts drop from the sky made me realize that I am a mortal and one day I will die. I asked me parents if it was true, and they were honest with me. At the time it upset me a great deal. Now I'm okay with it. It's my dying process that I worry about...Will there be someone to take care of me? How long will I be debilitated and miserable before I actually kick the bucket? Will I have the right to choose when and how I die by then, legally, so that when I inevitably get sick I have access to all the right medications to take that will cause a quick, painless, easy crossing over?
These are the things I think about.
By the way. I am patchouli Savage. I am new, I guess. But I am so old, too....
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: cez]
#19332095 - 12/27/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No-one has ever realized that one day they will cease to be
Anything anyone has ever found that ceases to be, is ultimately not what they are, it's an idea of themselves
What we are never began, so it can never cease
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Chuckfinely
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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
#19332140 - 12/27/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patchouli_Savage said: I was five and my parents took my sibling and I out into a field away from the city lights to watch a meteor shower. It was so spectacular and intense, I haven't seen once like it since then. Watching the starts drop from the sky made me realize that I am a mortal and one day I will die. I asked me parents if it was true, and they were honest with me. At the time it upset me a great deal. Now I'm okay with it. It's my dying process that I worry about...Will there be someone to take care of me? How long will I be debilitated and miserable before I actually kick the bucket? Will I have the right to choose when and how I die by then, legally, so that when I inevitably get sick I have access to all the right medications to take that will cause a quick, painless, easy crossing over?
These are the things I think about.
By the way. I am patchouli Savage. I am new, I guess. But I am so old, too....
Welcome to the shroomery stick around the s and m forum, you seem alright
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cez

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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: Chronic7]
#19333568 - 12/27/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said: No-one has ever realized that one day they will cease to be
Anything anyone has ever found that ceases to be, is ultimately not what they are, it's an idea of themselves
What we are never began, so it can never cease
...Or what we are always was and everything attached attains cessation.
Same difference I think but the point in the op was regarding the impermanence of the body/ego.
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cez

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Re: When did you realize the fact that someday you will cease to be? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#19333572 - 12/27/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chuckfinely said: I cant remember ever not fearing death. Even as a very small child, 6 and younger, i had sever death anxiety.
I never feared monsters in the closet or anything, my nightmares were always just simply dieing
Its followed me into my 20s. Like today is my 23rd birthday and my prevailing thoughts as i woke up today were that i was one year closer to death, and that rather than acomplishing anything by now ive only managed to set myself up for a fairly dismal life
The older i get the more and more i feel my fear of death transforming into a sort of half-eagerness. I mean when youre dead theres no worry about money, place to stay, cant get thrown in jail, cant be lonely...etc
Doesnt sound too bad to me 
Happy birthday!
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