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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19326792 - 12/25/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You saw it? That means it couldn't have been going all that fast. I don't think you understand, conventional propulsion is just not going to cut it for interstellar travel. Even if you could reach the speed of light it would still take you FOREVER to travel all around the Milky Way.

If there are alien species capable of travelling between galaxies I promise you they don't look like this :ufo: and they are probably using a method of travel that we humans can't even comprehend yet. I'm talking like wormhole super warp drive x10,000.



Like I said, it was flying at what seemed like the speed of a normal plane... Then it turned upside down & took off into nothingness.




You saw what you saw man. I personally don't buy it, but hey who am I?

All the conventional UFO sighting stuff just makes zero sense to me. You mean to tell me that a species advanced enough to travel hundreds of light years didn't come up with some sort of stealth system to avoid being spotted by humans? And apparently they just come to earth and fly around for a bit then leave........the fuck is that? What would the purpose of that be, how could they justify expanding the resources just to make crop circles and shit? To study us? That's bullshit, if they wanted to study us I'm sure they'd have the tech to do it quietly and from a distance were nobody would even notice. It just makes no sense.



My theory is what you call bullshit.
To study.
Imagine having the chance as humans, to discover a planet with a new species that is showing signs of intelligence.
Humans would want to study them, it could give an idea as to how we ourselves evolved.
It would basically be like observing evolution from the beginning.




Yeah maybe, but there would be a lot more subtle ways to study us than flying a big fuck off shiny ass ship into the troposphere.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: kr0nik0] * 1
    #19326800 - 12/25/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lol. I keep posting back to you right before you post sandman.

Your point of them being able to not be detected is something I think about as well. The only theory I can think of is that they have been here before, and do want to be detected.




:lol:

Perhaps, or maybe it's just a rouge ship full of alien pranksters who like to fly around and fuck with the "monkeys" violating the galactic federation code on "How to deal with newly discovered intelligent species" :lol:


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19326803 - 12/25/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I mean shit, If I had a ship and could fly anywhere in the galaxy you bet your ass I'd fly to some early alien civilization and declare myself the Sun God


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19326807 - 12/25/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah maybe, but there would be a lot more subtle ways to study us than flying a big fuck off shiny ass ship into the troposphere.



Like anal probes? :lol:


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19326814 - 12/25/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah maybe, but there would be a lot more subtle ways to study us than flying a big fuck off shiny ass ship into the troposphere.



Like anal probes? :lol:




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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #19326815 - 12/25/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea. It's pretty wild to hear people's theories about this subject. Of course you have your crackpots out there that swear by the existence of ET's, but a lot of people such as myself have seen crazy and explainable things in the sky.

I'd love to hear if anyone else here on the shroomery has seen something similar to what I saw.

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I mean shit, If I had a ship and could fly anywhere in the galaxy you bet your ass I'd fly to some early alien civilization and declare myself the Sun God




Lol. I know right? Interstellar trolling of other planets might one day be the equivalent of today's trolls on the internet. :laugh:


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19326823 - 12/25/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I mean shit, If I had a ship and could fly anywhere in the galaxy you bet your ass I'd fly to some early alien civilization and declare myself the Sun God




Lol. I know right? Interstellar trolling of other planets might one day be the equivalent of today's trolls on the internet. :laugh:




Oh man, "Interstellar Trolling" :lol: If internet people get a hold of advanced spacecraft it is inevitable. Just wait, instead of breaded cats it'll be breaded aliens.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman] * 3
    #19326942 - 12/25/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The distances involved when traveling between star systems let alone whole galaxies are unbelievably massive. The closest star system to us is about ~4 light years away, that might as well be a million light years away with our current technology. Now how long do you think it will be until humans colonize the entire galaxy? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? So let's say sometime in the future we manage to explore the entire galaxy....now what? We are practically in the same situation we are now but instead of having to travel a measly 4 light years away, we now have to travel from one galaxy to another, the space between galaxies is infinitely larger than the distance between solar systems.

The tech needed for galaxy to galaxy travel is probably so far beyond our comprehension. I highly doubt an intelligent ET race has managed to survive long enough to manage this at this particular time.






lololoollollll sounds like your mind is the one that's restricted, friend.



  • Assuming current levels of technology is farcical.  Sixty years ago we didnt have color TVs.  Now i can skype with China in real time.  Please think outside of the box when assessing the realities of planetary relationships in space, it is a prerequisite.
  • The technology to travel from galaxy to galaxy is beyond comprehension?  Duh.  Electricity used to be beyond comprehension.  Telephones were beyond comprehension.  The internet.  Automobiles.  Airplanes.  Drones.  Nuclear warfare.  The list goes on.  Why assume that intergalactic space travel is going to be the exception to the rule?  We're in the process of developing invisibility suites/screens now.  Why think that space travel will be the one theoretical technology that never comes to fruition?



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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #19326971 - 12/25/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet aliens out there are flying back and fourth from galaxy to galaxy all the time.




Highly improbable




Why do you say that?





You have more chance of spontaneously shitting gold coins then there being intelligent lifeforms traveling between those galaxies.



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The distances involved when traveling between star systems let alone whole galaxies are unbelievably massive. The closest star system to us is about ~4 light years away, that might as well be a million light years away with our current technology. Now how long do you think it will be until humans colonize the entire galaxy? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? So let's say sometime in the future we manage to explore the entire galaxy....now what? We are practically in the same situation we are now but instead of having to travel a measly 4 light years away, we now have to travel from one galaxy to another, the space between galaxies is infinitely larger than the distance between solar systems.

The tech needed for galaxy to galaxy travel is probably so far beyond our comprehension. I highly doubt an intelligent ET race has managed to survive long enough to manage this at this particular time. Maybe it has happened, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far far far away. I'm sure it will happen some time in the distant future, but I'm talking billions or trillions of years down the line.




It's even less probable than that.
First of all you need to factor in the probability of there being a planet that can support life (highly unlikely)
then multiply that by the chance that life actually evolves (even more unlikely)
then multiply that by the chance that life will become what anyone would consider "intelligent" (astronomically unlikely)
then multiply that by likelihood of somehow finding a way to perfect intergalactic travel (according to modern physics, totally infeasible)
then multiply that by the likelihood that any of these potential "intelligent" aliens would have any of the same ridiculous, star-trekian values that derpy humans have, i.e. exploring space. (a truly frivolous waste of time)
then multiply this by the outright un-imaginable unlikely chance that someway, somehow, TWO intelligent lifeforms just so happen to be at the EXACT state of evolution as one another in order to be able to have any kind of meaningful interaction.

Without throwing together some mock-up numbers let me just tell you, the chances of there ever having been or presently being alien beings in those galaxies that are all at a compatible level of evolution at the exact same time and just so happen to have all had the desire to develop intergalactic travel (the most useless thing imaginable) is so close to impossible that you may as well call it a certainty.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Dawks]
    #19327039 - 12/25/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet aliens out there are flying back and fourth from galaxy to galaxy all the time.




Highly improbable




Why do you say that?





You have more chance of spontaneously shitting gold coins then there being intelligent lifeforms traveling between those galaxies.



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The distances involved when traveling between star systems let alone whole galaxies are unbelievably massive. The closest star system to us is about ~4 light years away, that might as well be a million light years away with our current technology. Now how long do you think it will be until humans colonize the entire galaxy? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? So let's say sometime in the future we manage to explore the entire galaxy....now what? We are practically in the same situation we are now but instead of having to travel a measly 4 light years away, we now have to travel from one galaxy to another, the space between galaxies is infinitely larger than the distance between solar systems.

The tech needed for galaxy to galaxy travel is probably so far beyond our comprehension. I highly doubt an intelligent ET race has managed to survive long enough to manage this at this particular time. Maybe it has happened, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far far far away. I'm sure it will happen some time in the distant future, but I'm talking billions or trillions of years down the line.




It's even less probable than that.
First of all you need to factor in the probability of there being a planet that can support life (highly unlikely)
then multiply that by the chance that life actually evolves (even more unlikely)
then multiply that by the chance that life will become what anyone would consider "intelligent" (astronomically unlikely)
then multiply that by likelihood of somehow finding a way to perfect intergalactic travel (according to modern physics, totally infeasible)
then multiply that by the likelihood that any of these potential "intelligent" aliens would have any of the same ridiculous, star-trekian values that derpy humans have, i.e. exploring space. (a truly frivolous waste of time)
then multiply this by the outright un-imaginable unlikely chance that someway, somehow, TWO intelligent lifeforms just so happen to be at the EXACT state of evolution as one another in order to be able to have any kind of meaningful interaction.

Without throwing together some mock-up numbers let me just tell you, the chances of there ever having been or presently being alien beings in those galaxies that are all at a compatible level of evolution at the exact same time and just so happen to have all had the desire to develop intergalactic travel (the most useless thing imaginable) is so close to impossible that you may as well call it a certainty.




YES  :ancientaliens: You so smart Dawks, that's what I was trying to say but you put it in words so much better.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19327057 - 12/25/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder how stable it is over there. I want to see some galaxies collide and get sucked into a super-massive black hole.

It'd be cool to watch...


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: memes]
    #19327062 - 12/25/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The distances involved when traveling between star systems let alone whole galaxies are unbelievably massive. The closest star system to us is about ~4 light years away, that might as well be a million light years away with our current technology. Now how long do you think it will be until humans colonize the entire galaxy? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? So let's say sometime in the future we manage to explore the entire galaxy....now what? We are practically in the same situation we are now but instead of having to travel a measly 4 light years away, we now have to travel from one galaxy to another, the space between galaxies is infinitely larger than the distance between solar systems.

The tech needed for galaxy to galaxy travel is probably so far beyond our comprehension. I highly doubt an intelligent ET race has managed to survive long enough to manage this at this particular time.






lololoollollll sounds like your mind is the one that's restricted, friend.



  • Assuming current levels of technology is farcical.  Sixty years ago we didnt have color TVs.  Now i can skype with China in real time.  Please think outside of the box when assessing the realities of planetary relationships in space, it is a prerequisite.
  • The technology to travel from galaxy to galaxy is beyond comprehension?  Duh.  Electricity used to be beyond comprehension.  Telephones were beyond comprehension.  The internet.  Automobiles.  Airplanes.  Drones.  Nuclear warfare.  The list goes on.  Why assume that intergalactic space travel is going to be the exception to the rule?  We're in the process of developing invisibility suites/screens now.  Why think that space travel will be the one theoretical technology that never comes to fruition?






I understand what you're saying, I don't think I articulated my point well enough, I don't think you understand what I was trying to say but it's my fault not yours, I was and am very high when I typed that and some of what I was trying to say didn't come out right. I'd try to explain right now but it will probably just make both of us even more confused, I'm going to go lay down now


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19327070 - 12/25/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

word up :smile:


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19327396 - 12/26/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet aliens out there are flying back and fourth from galaxy to galaxy all the time.




Highly improbable




One can't say for sure...


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19327398 - 12/26/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wonder how stable it is over there. I want to see some galaxies collide and get sucked into a super-massive black hole.

It'd be cool to watch...




In a couple billion years we're supposed to collide with Andromeda. But I think unless you're watching it on a billion year time lapse it wouldn't look like much.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: schwarg] * 1
    #19327597 - 12/26/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What happens if black holes are created some way we can't conceive, and on purpose. It rips a whole in what we know as the universe, and splits atoms to such a unimaginable level that it spits that material back out somewhere random. Or somewhere that you can control where it is spit back out. You never fucking know. When I think universe is infinite and old as FUCK, I imagine some weird fucking things. Creatures that have evolved or been randomly created that are part of the air in their atmosphere and learn to freeze themselves for millions of years like some of brine shrimp or something.

Yeah doesn't make sense, but does infinite make fucking sense in your mind?! I'm sorry, I'm super stoned and thinking about what infinite would look like.
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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #19327889 - 12/26/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm super stoned and thinking about what infinite would look like.





Right on. I get stuck in loops when I'm really high thinking about anything at all being infinite. It's just an impossible concept for humans to comprehend I believe.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: memes]
    #19328484 - 12/26/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19328510 - 12/26/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Even if you could reach the speed of light it would still take you FOREVER to travel all around the Milky Way.





I get what you are saying, but this is not quite right.  At high enough speeds you could traverse the entire Milky Way in your life time.

This is because of relativity.  The same concept that entails we must travel less than the speed of light also entails that we could theoretically traverse the galaxy in our life time at sub-light speeds.  The problems are what you always hear about though, how are you going to get that energy, how are you going to survive that acceleration and are you ok with returning to earth thousands of years after you left.  So relativity is a double edged sword.  It removes the possibility of unlimited speed in a craft, but it add the possibility of going where ever you would like in you lifetime at sub-light speeds.  As long as you are happy with sub-light speeds, traveling around the galaxy is a massive engineering problem, not a scientific problem.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 1
    #19328592 - 12/26/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet aliens out there are flying back and fourth from galaxy to galaxy all the time.




Highly improbable



:blowme:




Aaaaand it began.

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