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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: DieCommie]
    #19328675 - 12/26/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Even if you could reach the speed of light it would still take you FOREVER to travel all around the Milky Way.





I get what you are saying, but this is not quite right.  At high enough speeds you could traverse the entire Milky Way in your life time.

This is because of relativity.  The same concept that entails we must travel less than the speed of light also entails that we could theoretically traverse the galaxy in our life time at sub-light speeds.  The problems are what you always hear about though, how are you going to get that energy, how are you going to survive that acceleration and are you ok with returning to earth thousands of years after you left.  So relativity is a double edged sword.  It removes the possibility of unlimited speed in a craft, but it add the possibility of going where ever you would like in you lifetime at sub-light speeds.  As long as you are happy with sub-light speeds, traveling around the galaxy is a massive engineering problem, not a scientific problem.




Awesome:thumbup: You learn something new everyday. I don't even pretend to understand the science that goes into space travel, it's just so insane to me. I love thinking about the big sexy picture, but jesus christ the mechanics of how it all works makes my brain bleed, all that crazy math....fuck me. I bow before all these crazy, amazing motherfuckers who are putting mini van sized robots on mars and shit, they might as well be fucking wizards.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19329303 - 12/26/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Best case scenario is we master worm holes I would say, instantaneous travel across astronomically large distances. I don't know how relativity would apply to this form of travel though...


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: schwarg]
    #19329426 - 12/26/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wonder how stable it is over there. I want to see some galaxies collide and get sucked into a super-massive black hole.

It'd be cool to watch...




In a couple billion years we're supposed to collide with Andromeda. But I think unless you're watching it on a billion year time lapse it wouldn't look like much.



When galaxies collide it's usually pretty crazy, I just watching a show about it last night.


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19330072 - 12/26/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Even if you could reach the speed of light it would still take you FOREVER to travel all around the Milky Way.





I get what you are saying, but this is not quite right.  At high enough speeds you could traverse the entire Milky Way in your life time.

This is because of relativity.  The same concept that entails we must travel less than the speed of light also entails that we could theoretically traverse the galaxy in our life time at sub-light speeds.  The problems are what you always hear about though, how are you going to get that energy, how are you going to survive that acceleration and are you ok with returning to earth thousands of years after you left.  So relativity is a double edged sword.  It removes the possibility of unlimited speed in a craft, but it add the possibility of going where ever you would like in you lifetime at sub-light speeds.  As long as you are happy with sub-light speeds, traveling around the galaxy is a massive engineering problem, not a scientific problem.




Awesome:thumbup: You learn something new everyday. I don't even pretend to understand the science that goes into space travel, it's just so insane to me. I love thinking about the big sexy picture, but jesus christ the mechanics of how it all works makes my brain bleed, all that crazy math....fuck me. I bow before all these crazy, amazing motherfuckers who are putting mini van sized robots on mars and shit, they might as well be fucking wizards.




mhm, this is the juiciest of the juicy parts of physics. as you approach the speed of light, time slows down. for the photon, existing AT the speed of light, there is no time at all. although to us it may seem like light can travel on and on for millions of years. but to the light itself, it arrived at its destination instantly upon departure


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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #19330254 - 12/26/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty huge Universe out there.


Cant wait till Warp Reactors are invented! Cant wait to explore the galaxies as an old man.

I would join the Fleet!

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Re: Imagine how the view of space would look from here [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19330272 - 12/26/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet aliens out there are flying back and fourth from galaxy to galaxy all the time.




Highly improbable




Why do you say that?

Intelligent life forms could exist in any of those galaxies in that picture.




The distances involved when traveling between star systems let alone whole galaxies are unbelievably massive. The closest star system to us is about ~4 light years away, that might as well be a million light years away with our current technology. Now how long do you think it will be until humans colonize the entire galaxy? 1,000 years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? So let's say sometime in the future we manage to explore the entire galaxy....now what? We are practically in the same situation we are now but instead of having to travel a measly 4 light years away, we now have to travel from one galaxy to another, the space between galaxies is infinitely larger than the distance between solar systems.

The tech needed for galaxy to galaxy travel is probably so far beyond our comprehension. I highly doubt an intelligent ET race has managed to survive long enough to manage this at this particular time. Maybe it has happened, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far far far away. I'm sure it will happen some time in the distant future, but I'm talking billions or trillions of years down the line.




What is time in space? Distance, I believe.


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