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LSD is addictive
    #19326376 - 12/25/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is psychologically addictive i'm pretty sure. I always want to take some acid. Its like i'm chasing the visuals, just trying to get to that place where its all kaleidoscopic, and its not always easy to get there for me. 

Also i get this taste in my mouth after the LSD kicks in, its really familiar and i associate it with the feeling. Ive taken acid twice this week, i have no idea why i want to do more.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326406 - 12/25/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

once i had a vial and started taking it 2 to 3 times a week



i eventually developed psychosis

you should probably stop


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326409 - 12/25/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did stop, this is day 2.

...but im definitely doing some for new years.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326414 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well if you gotta trip you gotta trip


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326415 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There was a year in the mid '90s when I took it 3-5 times a week, every week for months. Double up, triple up, etc. when done on consecutive days = well over 200 hits one summer. I wouldn't classify the addiction similar to tobacco or alcohol, but I really enjoyed the escape of it.
Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326416 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LSD is extremely hard to get addicted to. first off, tolerance builds very very very fast. second, it actually treats other addictions by changing gene expression.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404] * 1
    #19326418 - 12/25/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

care to elaborate?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326420 - 12/25/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LSD is addictive like rollercoasters are addictive. Congrats on your 2 day chip; and good vibes for the New Year trip. :cheers:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326423 - 12/25/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man! i did stims with the lsd, but im not going to on NYE. I know what psychosis is like, whether i've had it before or not is questionable but i know the mind state so i must have been there a bit. I'm definitely not feeling that way right now and so I feel totally safe taking some on NYE.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326439 - 12/25/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sure, i can elaborate on a peer reviewed source if you would like.

"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose." pulled from wikipidea. venturing further gives me this:


"For example, LSD, which is widely abused, does not appear to be addictive. Animals will not self-administer hallucinogens, suggesting that they are not rewarding [44]. Importantly, these drugs fail to evoke dopamine release, further supporting the idea that only drugs that activate the mesolimbic dopamine system are addictive. Instead, the critical action of hallucinogens may be increased glutamate release in the cortex, presumably through a pre-synaptic effect on 5-HT2A receptors expressed on excitatory afferents from the thalamus"

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030437

Here's a little research thread i made for LSD and it's affects on genetic code:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19001325


I started ultimately here: http://deoxy.org/wiki/Acid_Genes




LSD is non-addictive.


My bet is that you exhibit pleasure-seeking behavior, or are a poly-substance abuser. :shrug: i'm no psychiatrist though.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326444 - 12/25/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Psychosis can turn into a metaphysical belief of solipsism if you let/want it to. :smile:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326451 - 12/25/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What happened during your episode of psychosis, leafing? How long did it last?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19326454 - 12/25/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I got psychotic when I had a shit ton of 4 aco DMT on hand. around 3 grams went through me and some friends in about 6 months...

I wasn't even sure if the sober reality I was experiencing was "real" or not because I constantly had visuals, and felt high all the time. Also has feelings that my dreams were the real reality.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19326465 - 12/25/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice, thats interesting. However i bet that interfered with life a bit.

I seem to trip out less than others on the same dose, and not get as much visuals, i can also usually communicate much easier than others on the same dose, and im thinking of times where both me and my friends havent tripped in a while...so its not like i had been doing a bunch of lsd beforehand and it wasnt effecting me. I dunno.... :shrug:

Whats really weird is the last time i did acid i stayed up all night playing guitar and i broke a string trying to show my friend how not to pick when playing.....i remember looking around and not being able to find the right string to put on it (d) and now 2 days later i come home and theres a d string on my guitar...i must have found a string but its really strange...makes me wonder if i never actually broke a string...but i did...this is basically the closest to pyschosis i've gotten....


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404] * 1
    #19326471 - 12/25/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

StateOfMind404 said:
Sure, i can elaborate on a peer reviewed source if you would like.

"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose." pulled from wikipidea. venturing further gives me this:


"For example, LSD, which is widely abused, does not appear to be addictive. Animals will not self-administer hallucinogens, suggesting that they are not rewarding [44]. Importantly, these drugs fail to evoke dopamine release, further supporting the idea that only drugs that activate the mesolimbic dopamine system are addictive. Instead, the critical action of hallucinogens may be increased glutamate release in the cortex, presumably through a pre-synaptic effect on 5-HT2A receptors expressed on excitatory afferents from the thalamus"

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030437

Here's a little research thread i made for LSD and it's affects on genetic code:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19001325


I started ultimately here: http://deoxy.org/wiki/Acid_Genes




LSD is non-addictive.


My bet is that you exhibit pleasure-seeking behavior, or are a poly-substance abuser. :shrug: i'm no psychiatrist though.




Reading this post and a little of the one you linked to, you sound like someone who's lost in a world of academic bullshit.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779] * 2
    #19326483 - 12/25/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Woah! Way to jump on someone for posting information and even a source....they were asked to elaborate :facepalm:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19326501 - 12/25/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

@Everything
I never really got many visuals either--at least never saw something that wasn't there. I'd see real things in a new light, crystalline, move vividly defined.. The "addiction" aka: "reason for return" was the body high reptile feeling and the thoughts. I'm somewhat introverted and possibly had more bad trips than good, but it was so intense that I fell in love with it. Coming back down to earth was definitely the hard part--best avoided by staying in a trip. Not sure how that fits into the definition of "addiction".


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19326507 - 12/25/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Da2ra said:
You sound like someone who's lost in a world of academic bullshit.





Classy. What does that even mean, academic bullshit?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404]
    #19326515 - 12/25/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Going about science in the wrong way. Incurring even less of an understanding of things as a result of it (e.g. obsessing about one particular receptor).


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19326527 - 12/25/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I can't tell how it relates but i think the reason I want to do LSD all the time has to do with how i can't choose how i portray myself. The idea that you are you and even though you may want to do something or be a certain way there is a barrier, LSD takes down those barriers, sometimes it doesnt and puts them up even higher.


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