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LSD is addictive
    #19326376 - 12/25/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is psychologically addictive i'm pretty sure. I always want to take some acid. Its like i'm chasing the visuals, just trying to get to that place where its all kaleidoscopic, and its not always easy to get there for me. 

Also i get this taste in my mouth after the LSD kicks in, its really familiar and i associate it with the feeling. Ive taken acid twice this week, i have no idea why i want to do more.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326406 - 12/25/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

once i had a vial and started taking it 2 to 3 times a week



i eventually developed psychosis

you should probably stop


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326409 - 12/25/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did stop, this is day 2.

...but im definitely doing some for new years.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326414 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well if you gotta trip you gotta trip


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326415 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There was a year in the mid '90s when I took it 3-5 times a week, every week for months. Double up, triple up, etc. when done on consecutive days = well over 200 hits one summer. I wouldn't classify the addiction similar to tobacco or alcohol, but I really enjoyed the escape of it.
Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326416 - 12/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LSD is extremely hard to get addicted to. first off, tolerance builds very very very fast. second, it actually treats other addictions by changing gene expression.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404] * 1
    #19326418 - 12/25/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

care to elaborate?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326420 - 12/25/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LSD is addictive like rollercoasters are addictive. Congrats on your 2 day chip; and good vibes for the New Year trip. :cheers:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326423 - 12/25/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man! i did stims with the lsd, but im not going to on NYE. I know what psychosis is like, whether i've had it before or not is questionable but i know the mind state so i must have been there a bit. I'm definitely not feeling that way right now and so I feel totally safe taking some on NYE.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326439 - 12/25/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sure, i can elaborate on a peer reviewed source if you would like.

"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose." pulled from wikipidea. venturing further gives me this:


"For example, LSD, which is widely abused, does not appear to be addictive. Animals will not self-administer hallucinogens, suggesting that they are not rewarding [44]. Importantly, these drugs fail to evoke dopamine release, further supporting the idea that only drugs that activate the mesolimbic dopamine system are addictive. Instead, the critical action of hallucinogens may be increased glutamate release in the cortex, presumably through a pre-synaptic effect on 5-HT2A receptors expressed on excitatory afferents from the thalamus"

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030437

Here's a little research thread i made for LSD and it's affects on genetic code:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19001325


I started ultimately here: http://deoxy.org/wiki/Acid_Genes




LSD is non-addictive.


My bet is that you exhibit pleasure-seeking behavior, or are a poly-substance abuser. :shrug: i'm no psychiatrist though.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326444 - 12/25/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Psychosis can turn into a metaphysical belief of solipsism if you let/want it to. :smile:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326451 - 12/25/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What happened during your episode of psychosis, leafing? How long did it last?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19326454 - 12/25/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I got psychotic when I had a shit ton of 4 aco DMT on hand. around 3 grams went through me and some friends in about 6 months...

I wasn't even sure if the sober reality I was experiencing was "real" or not because I constantly had visuals, and felt high all the time. Also has feelings that my dreams were the real reality.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19326465 - 12/25/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice, thats interesting. However i bet that interfered with life a bit.

I seem to trip out less than others on the same dose, and not get as much visuals, i can also usually communicate much easier than others on the same dose, and im thinking of times where both me and my friends havent tripped in a while...so its not like i had been doing a bunch of lsd beforehand and it wasnt effecting me. I dunno.... :shrug:

Whats really weird is the last time i did acid i stayed up all night playing guitar and i broke a string trying to show my friend how not to pick when playing.....i remember looking around and not being able to find the right string to put on it (d) and now 2 days later i come home and theres a d string on my guitar...i must have found a string but its really strange...makes me wonder if i never actually broke a string...but i did...this is basically the closest to pyschosis i've gotten....


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404] * 1
    #19326471 - 12/25/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure, i can elaborate on a peer reviewed source if you would like.

"LSD is non-addictive, is not known to cause brain damage, and has extremely low toxicity relative to dose." pulled from wikipidea. venturing further gives me this:


"For example, LSD, which is widely abused, does not appear to be addictive. Animals will not self-administer hallucinogens, suggesting that they are not rewarding [44]. Importantly, these drugs fail to evoke dopamine release, further supporting the idea that only drugs that activate the mesolimbic dopamine system are addictive. Instead, the critical action of hallucinogens may be increased glutamate release in the cortex, presumably through a pre-synaptic effect on 5-HT2A receptors expressed on excitatory afferents from the thalamus"

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030437

Here's a little research thread i made for LSD and it's affects on genetic code:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19001325


I started ultimately here: http://deoxy.org/wiki/Acid_Genes




LSD is non-addictive.


My bet is that you exhibit pleasure-seeking behavior, or are a poly-substance abuser. :shrug: i'm no psychiatrist though.




Reading this post and a little of the one you linked to, you sound like someone who's lost in a world of academic bullshit.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779] * 2
    #19326483 - 12/25/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Woah! Way to jump on someone for posting information and even a source....they were asked to elaborate :facepalm:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19326501 - 12/25/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

@Everything
I never really got many visuals either--at least never saw something that wasn't there. I'd see real things in a new light, crystalline, move vividly defined.. The "addiction" aka: "reason for return" was the body high reptile feeling and the thoughts. I'm somewhat introverted and possibly had more bad trips than good, but it was so intense that I fell in love with it. Coming back down to earth was definitely the hard part--best avoided by staying in a trip. Not sure how that fits into the definition of "addiction".


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19326507 - 12/25/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You sound like someone who's lost in a world of academic bullshit.





Classy. What does that even mean, academic bullshit?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404]
    #19326515 - 12/25/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Going about science in the wrong way. Incurring even less of an understanding of things as a result of it (e.g. obsessing about one particular receptor).


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19326527 - 12/25/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I can't tell how it relates but i think the reason I want to do LSD all the time has to do with how i can't choose how i portray myself. The idea that you are you and even though you may want to do something or be a certain way there is a barrier, LSD takes down those barriers, sometimes it doesnt and puts them up even higher.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19326529 - 12/25/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds like the honeymoon phase to me, most of us go through it.

But you've been registered since 2010 so this can't be your first time tripping.

Second honeymoon? :shrug:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19326535 - 12/25/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, i'm sure you have a much more enlightened view of the central nervous system and the brain. :whatever:

Please provide some sources for your point of view in the future instead of attacking the actual poster with meaningless banter.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404] * 1
    #19326574 - 12/25/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Please provide some sources for your point of view in the future instead of attacking the actual poster with meaningless banter.





My statement is a brief assessment of your commentary and the implications of it are clear.

But if you want me to get more specific, I'll mention one of about 7 things wrong with your commentary. The only evidence you presented to support the declaration that LSD is non-addictive is a study that tested whether rats would or would not use LSD on a continuing basis. I think there is something drastically wrong with this as far as being able to support the statement in question.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19326587 - 12/25/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think i've taken over 2 sheets of acid easily by now. I went almost 3 months without doing any drugs besides a little weed and some alcohol. So maybe it is like a second honeymoon.

But yeah....i've tripped A LOT, and i don't mean to say that in a bragging way, more like omg this is ridiculous i should spend more time trying to save the dolphins instead way.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything] * 1
    #19326594 - 12/25/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You don't completely understand the meaning of the word addictive


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404]
    #19326648 - 12/25/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it can be addicting if used for the wrong reasons. I was never addicted like i am to pot or coffee, but i definetly abused it "looking for all the answers," trying to figure out how to carry those life-changing thoughts and feelings into my sober life.

I realized you can't do that, LSD and such can only show you what it's like, you have to change your life in accordance.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19326679 - 12/25/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.





Could you like try reading like 5 posts here before you youself post? What you "knew" was bullshit. There has never been LSD cut with strychnine. LSD has no taste and it didn't in the 90's either.
The 90s were a golden age for availabilty and the dark ages for correct information.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: jimboob]
    #19326684 - 12/25/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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it can be addicting if used for the wrong reasons. I was never addicted like i am to pot or coffee, but i definetly abused it "looking for all the answers," trying to figure out how to carry those life-changing thoughts and feelings into my sober life.

I realized you can't do that, LSD and such can only show you what it's like, you have to change your life in accordance.




It's strange how the label "addiction" is locked-down by some and wide-open for others. I share your view of it as "if used for the wrong reasons", but also when dangerous consequences can likely occur from abuse. Some substances meet these conditions easier than others.. I know a few substance abuse counselors that chain-smoke ciggs and binge drink on the weekend while calling pot smokers "junkies" Mon-Fri since it's "illegal". I also saw some show on TV that covered people with strange addictions of eating their own hair, so....      :confused:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19326710 - 12/25/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Guess I fit into that "dark ages for correct information" genre. The Baltimore rave scene in 1994 didn't have many internet cafe's with Google, and being 17 at the time (and not a scientist) has it's consequences. Haven't done paper since 97 and don't plan on it again, thanks for the lesson tho professor :thumbup:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19326825 - 12/25/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What happened during your episode of psychosis, leafing? How long did it last?



long story short i thought i was raped as a child during a trip because i uncovered a FALSE repressed memory.. since then i had another psychotic break not under the influence of LSD in which i slit my wrists with a big chunk of glass and almost lost my hand and my life.. i spent 4 days in the ICU.. since then my psychosis left me.. maybe due to god thinking ive suffered enough...

right now im in  the psychward due to the fact i said some aboot shooting up a school but i said it in a poetic style to express my feelings


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326852 - 12/25/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow it seems like you can get put away for anything. How long you gonna be in the ward for? I hope they're treating you well.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19326856 - 12/25/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

im on a 5 month hold but they say ill be out in 2-3.. 

they treat me nicely. i get smoke breaks so i cant complain


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: leafing]
    #19326964 - 12/25/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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once i had a vial and started taking it 2 to 3 times a week



i eventually developed psychosis

you should probably stop




How long were you doing this for psychosis to develop? Did you have a previous history or family history of mental illness? I'm just curious because I like to collect this knowledge for the sake of understanding the dangers better


As to the OP, psychedelics are very addictive mentally for me. I don't eat them that often, but think about them daily. It doesn't harm me any and I'm better off obsessed with psychedelics than straight up depressed, but of course the ideal is to be all around balanced


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    #19326990 - 12/25/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There was a year in the mid '90s when I took it 3-5 times a week, every week for months. Double up, triple up, etc. when done on consecutive days = well over 200 hits one summer. I wouldn't classify the addiction similar to tobacco or alcohol, but I really enjoyed the escape of it.
Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.



strychnine ehhh....... :nojustno:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: 404]
    #19327000 - 12/25/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My bet is that you exhibit pleasure-seeking behavior



Someone is exhibiting pleasure-seeking behavior?


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    #19327006 - 12/25/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I bet sugar tastes good too


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19327059 - 12/25/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i accidently took a hit the next day after i took it already, mainly cuz i felll asleep the other day on it, but i forgot about how it has a decreased tolerance of not spaced out, so i didnt have much visuals.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19327516 - 12/26/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Guess I fit into that "dark ages for correct information" genre. The Baltimore rave scene in 1994 didn't have many internet cafe's with Google, and being 17 at the time (and not a scientist) has it's consequences. Haven't done paper since 97 and don't plan on it again, thanks for the lesson tho professor :thumbup:




Sorry bro I didn't mean to sound like a jerk. I was dropping in 1994 too and I 100 percent believed in rat poison then. Everyone did. We thought you could eat too many shrooms and die too. Even High Times was banned where I lived, we knew nothing. I now try to fight the BS lies that keep these drugs illegal and when I hear them repeated it kind of raises my guard and makes me grumpy. I forget not everyone is addicted to drug related websites like me. So sorry and welcome. PS LSD at 40 is so much better.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19327525 - 12/26/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know this hippie who says that you can actually forget to breathe on a high enough dose of LSD. A dangerous out-of-body experience, I guess.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19327598 - 12/26/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

when I have it on hand
I do some every week
and half way through I begin to wonder what will I do when it is over.

when it is over and not replenished I am mostly the same, just not enhanced. I think I mourn a bit and try to drink alcohol more, but that just gives me headaches the next day.

I wish I could be enhanced every week that way, but life goes on, then something else comes around, and the enhancement becomes possible again.

That is more like life than addiction.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19327620 - 12/26/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Gotta love the conservative nature to pre-assign rations of something we have and enjoy. Many of us possibly just have addictive personalities, so if it's not one thing--it's another.
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19327622 - 12/26/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Icyus]
    #19327630 - 12/26/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icyus said:
If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..



:cookiemonster: A better explanation than this--will not be found!  :elmo:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19327685 - 12/26/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

enough?
what a concept!
like my father trying to gain control!


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
    #19327704 - 12/26/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There was a year in the mid '90s when I took it 3-5 times a week, every week for months. Double up, triple up, etc. when done on consecutive days = well over 200 hits one summer. I wouldn't classify the addiction similar to tobacco or alcohol, but I really enjoyed the escape of it.
Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.




My buddy told me that Albert Hoffman accidentally took 250 hits once and went on a bike ride. This man lived to be 103, and took LSD the last 70 years of his life. Is this verifiable?


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: happygolucky]
    #19327730 - 12/26/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I looked it up. It was 250 micrograms.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: happygolucky]
    #19327732 - 12/26/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)
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He's got his information mixed up. That's the famous 250 mcg trip ('Bicycle Day') and it's recounted in detail at the beginning of LSD: My Problem Child (see attached).

There are examples of people who have done the equivalent of 1,000+ hits and have lived and apparantly been perfectly fine (e.g. "Most did not remember being brought to the hospital; otherwise, no apparent psychologic or physical ill effects were noted in a year of follow-up examinations of five patients. Most of the patients continue to use LSD intermittently."):

Coma, Hyperthermia and Bleeding Associated with Massive LSD Overdose: A Report of Eight Cases. John C. Klock, MD, Udo Boerner, MS, and Charles E. Becker, MD. West J Med. 1974 March; 120(3): 183–188.


More examples of massive doses of LSD: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showthreaded.php/Number/18708410/vc/1


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19327837 - 12/26/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
I know this hippie who says that you can actually forget to breathe on a high enough dose of LSD. A dangerous out-of-body experience, I guess.




Wow, someone else just copied and pasted the following info, which contained a reiteration of this:

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1500 mics- is almost exactly like 1700 mics. 1700 mics being the most I have ever done. Very few people have used this much lsd.
It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology.
They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves.
A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways. Still, it is no more threatening than mushrooms. So dont get me wrong.




08/14/07, yageman, emphasis mine
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19328594 - 12/26/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wish I could be enhanced every week that way




Have you tried microdoses a couple times a week?  I find them lovely.  I like maybe a seventh of a tab LSD; or .15g-.2g of shrooms depending on where I'm going.  Nice energy; subtle enhancement.  LSD may be better if you're gonna be interacting at work/school as it's more uppity and clear-headed. 


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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19328634 - 12/26/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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1500 mics- is almost exactly like 1700 mics. 1700 mics being the most I have ever done. Very few people have used this much lsd.
It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology.
They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves.
A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways. Still, it is no more threatening than mushrooms. So dont get me wrong.





I have had intimations of this consciousness permeating into my reality on high doses of 4 Aco DMT, it is absolutely indescribable and the empathy involved between the tripper and the entities feels like what you would consider god.

This only occurred once however for me but the information that was being conveyed to me is scattered along with the memory of the experience itself.

The only thing I'm sure of is that whatever that was, was powerful,intense,deep,benevolent,intuitive.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Icyus]
    #19328660 - 12/26/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icyus said:
If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..




Sounds about right! :lol:

(as far as psychedelics are concerned)


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flickedbic]
    #19328667 - 12/26/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wish I could be enhanced every week that way




Have you tried microdoses a couple times a week?  I find them lovely.  I like maybe a seventh of a tab LSD; or .15g-.2g of shrooms depending on where I'm going.  Nice energy; subtle enhancement.  LSD may be better if you're gonna be interacting at work/school as it's more uppity and clear-headed. 




yes I have had a few good years that way (with lsd quarter tabs and even less some times - just a wee twist on reality)


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19329028 - 12/26/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think people can be mentally addicted to a lot of weird things including lsd. It all depends on the person though. I've had a quarter sheet for about 3 or 4 months and only tripped once. But for me weed is a daily thing for me when I have it.  Acid just wears me out mentally, I don't get how you can want to do it that often. But like I said everyone is different.  Congratulations you figured out that lsd is mentally addicting for you. I guess just be careful and limit yourself to the amount and frequency that you think your mind can handle.  I wouldn't try to push yourself though if you value your mental health.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
    #19329690 - 12/26/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Like one member said before, honey moon phase!

We all go through that trip every week or more phase for several months then we relax on it and do a little living and then come back to it. I have a hard time spacing my trips out when I have it on hand but when I don't have it well I go for a while without. I've tripped at least twice every year since I started which wasn't too many years back actually. The first year I definitely tripped the most though.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19329705 - 12/26/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It is psychologically addictive i'm pretty sure.





I got news for you! Everything that  :feelsgoodman: can be addictive.
It depends on YOU.:dawerp:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: rikuni]
    #19330148 - 12/26/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Addiction to me is when the ability to say no to a drug is almost impossible because the cravings, whether mental or physical, are too strong. It is a very broad term. A heroin addict goes through physical withdrawal when not high, where as in a marijuana addict, the users reward system in the brain is telling them that they need the pot in order to feel good. Completely different things, but all considered 'addiction'.

If people can become addicted to porn, gambling, or picking their nose..they certainly can become addicted to LSD IMO.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19330290 - 12/26/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icyus said:
If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..




Sounds about right! :lol:

(as far as psychedelics are concerned)




Do people really feel this way? As in like it's never worth doing again?

I had a deadhead teacher in high school, who after high school I had told I was having a tough time. One of the things he had said to me was, "Yeah for most people once in usually enough".

Now I get that if you have one extremely profound experience you might need some time to recoup and reexamine life and your beliefs and goals, but never wanting to go back again? Just seems unreal. Maybe I'm just a dumby and that's how I got into my "tough time" in the first place.


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: JPDancer]
    #19331435 - 12/27/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just picked up an eighth of deemster



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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19331452 - 12/27/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think LSD is addictive. In fact as much as I love the experiences it has as many cons as it does pros in my book.

>uncomfortable muscles
>eye strain
>significantly diminished survival skills
>inability to do anything constructive
>over confidence

and probably the biggest thing that stops me from taking LSD more often is it lasts too freakin long. Seriously, where can I find the time to devote 12 hours to what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. There's a life to be lived.

So yeah LSD is awesome but I find it very far from addictive.

Ketamine on the other hand  :drooling: give me another line  :rail2:


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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Everything]
    #19331467 - 12/27/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Everything said:
Just picked up an eighth of deemster





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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Dawks]
    #19331567 - 12/27/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icyus said:
If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..




Sounds about right! :lol:

(as far as psychedelics are concerned)




Do people really feel this way? As in like it's never worth doing again?

I had a deadhead teacher in high school, who after high school I had told I was having a tough time. One of the things he had said to me was, "Yeah for most people once in usually enough".

Now I get that if you have one extremely profound experience you might need some time to recoup and reexamine life and your beliefs and goals, but never wanting to go back again? Just seems unreal. Maybe I'm just a dumby and that's how I got into my "tough time" in the first place.



I'm sure some people feel like they don't want to trip again, but that is not what Icyus is saying. When you really jump in head first -- I'm talking eating a huge dose, this can be different for some, for me its 10 hits and up -- you will have such a profound experience that you won't feel the need to trip again for a while. It's not that you are put off by the experience, quite the opposite really. The experience was so powerful that the positive energy has carried into the days, perhaps weeks or months, afterward. Assuming you eat good acid --

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I don't think LSD is addictive. In fact as much as I love the experiences it has as many cons as it does pros in my book.

>uncomfortable muscles
>eye strain
>significantly diminished survival skills
>inability to do anything constructive
>over confidence



I would definitely not want to eat a large dose of the stuff this guy gets because the stuff my friends feed me never makes me feel like that no matter how much I eat. All clear headed and relaxed, more in touch with the world, and significantly more creative energy. You have to know what you are getting before you dive in deep.


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