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flipcode
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Gotta love the conservative nature to pre-assign rations of something we have and enjoy. Many of us possibly just have addictive personalities, so if it's not one thing--it's another. Pick your poison
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Icyus
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
#19327622 - 12/26/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..
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flipcode
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Icyus]
#19327630 - 12/26/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icyus said: If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..
A better explanation than this--will not be found!
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redgreenvines
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
#19327685 - 12/26/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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enough? what a concept! like my father trying to gain control!
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happygolucky
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: flipcode]
#19327704 - 12/26/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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flipcode said: There was a year in the mid '90s when I took it 3-5 times a week, every week for months. Double up, triple up, etc. when done on consecutive days = well over 200 hits one summer. I wouldn't classify the addiction similar to tobacco or alcohol, but I really enjoyed the escape of it. Not sure what they cut it with these days (or if they still do), but we always knew it was cut with strychnine by the dirtiness of the taste.
My buddy told me that Albert Hoffman accidentally took 250 hits once and went on a bike ride. This man lived to be 103, and took LSD the last 70 years of his life. Is this verifiable?
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happygolucky
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I looked it up. It was 250 micrograms.
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s240779

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He's got his information mixed up. That's the famous 250 mcg trip ('Bicycle Day') and it's recounted in detail at the beginning of LSD: My Problem Child (see attached).
There are examples of people who have done the equivalent of 1,000+ hits and have lived and apparantly been perfectly fine (e.g. "Most did not remember being brought to the hospital; otherwise, no apparent psychologic or physical ill effects were noted in a year of follow-up examinations of five patients. Most of the patients continue to use LSD intermittently."):
Coma, Hyperthermia and Bleeding Associated with Massive LSD Overdose: A Report of Eight Cases. John C. Klock, MD, Udo Boerner, MS, and Charles E. Becker, MD. West J Med. 1974 March; 120(3): 183–188.
More examples of massive doses of LSD: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showthreaded.php/Number/18708410/vc/1
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s240779

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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
#19327837 - 12/26/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Da2ra said: I know this hippie who says that you can actually forget to breathe on a high enough dose of LSD. A dangerous out-of-body experience, I guess.
Wow, someone else just copied and pasted the following info, which contained a reiteration of this:
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1500 mics- is almost exactly like 1700 mics. 1700 mics being the most I have ever done. Very few people have used this much lsd. It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology. They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves. A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways. Still, it is no more threatening than mushrooms. So dont get me wrong.
08/14/07, yageman, emphasis mine http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7295174#7295174
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flickedbic
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
#19328594 - 12/26/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wish I could be enhanced every week that way
Have you tried microdoses a couple times a week? I find them lovely. I like maybe a seventh of a tab LSD; or .15g-.2g of shrooms depending on where I'm going. Nice energy; subtle enhancement. LSD may be better if you're gonna be interacting at work/school as it's more uppity and clear-headed.
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
#19328634 - 12/26/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1500 mics- is almost exactly like 1700 mics. 1700 mics being the most I have ever done. Very few people have used this much lsd. It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology. They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves. A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways. Still, it is no more threatening than mushrooms. So dont get me wrong.
I have had intimations of this consciousness permeating into my reality on high doses of 4 Aco DMT, it is absolutely indescribable and the empathy involved between the tripper and the entities feels like what you would consider god.
This only occurred once however for me but the information that was being conveyed to me is scattered along with the memory of the experience itself.
The only thing I'm sure of is that whatever that was, was powerful,intense,deep,benevolent,intuitive.
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Into The Woods
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: Icyus]
#19328660 - 12/26/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icyus said: If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..
Sounds about right! 
(as far as psychedelics are concerned)
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redgreenvines
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flickedbic said:
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I wish I could be enhanced every week that way
Have you tried microdoses a couple times a week? I find them lovely. I like maybe a seventh of a tab LSD; or .15g-.2g of shrooms depending on where I'm going. Nice energy; subtle enhancement. LSD may be better if you're gonna be interacting at work/school as it's more uppity and clear-headed.
yes I have had a few good years that way (with lsd quarter tabs and even less some times - just a wee twist on reality)
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I think people can be mentally addicted to a lot of weird things including lsd. It all depends on the person though. I've had a quarter sheet for about 3 or 4 months and only tripped once. But for me weed is a daily thing for me when I have it. Acid just wears me out mentally, I don't get how you can want to do it that often. But like I said everyone is different. Congratulations you figured out that lsd is mentally addicting for you. I guess just be careful and limit yourself to the amount and frequency that you think your mind can handle. I wouldn't try to push yourself though if you value your mental health.
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GreySatyr
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: s240779]
#19329690 - 12/26/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like one member said before, honey moon phase!
We all go through that trip every week or more phase for several months then we relax on it and do a little living and then come back to it. I have a hard time spacing my trips out when I have it on hand but when I don't have it well I go for a while without. I've tripped at least twice every year since I started which wasn't too many years back actually. The first year I definitely tripped the most though.
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rikuni

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It is psychologically addictive i'm pretty sure.
I got news for you! Everything that can be addictive. It depends on YOU.
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Magicman69
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: rikuni]
#19330148 - 12/26/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Addiction to me is when the ability to say no to a drug is almost impossible because the cravings, whether mental or physical, are too strong. It is a very broad term. A heroin addict goes through physical withdrawal when not high, where as in a marijuana addict, the users reward system in the brain is telling them that they need the pot in order to feel good. Completely different things, but all considered 'addiction'.
If people can become addicted to porn, gambling, or picking their nose..they certainly can become addicted to LSD IMO.
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JPDancer
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Into The Woods said:
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Icyus said: If you feel like doing it again, you havent done enough..
Sounds about right! 
(as far as psychedelics are concerned)
Do people really feel this way? As in like it's never worth doing again?
I had a deadhead teacher in high school, who after high school I had told I was having a tough time. One of the things he had said to me was, "Yeah for most people once in usually enough".
Now I get that if you have one extremely profound experience you might need some time to recoup and reexamine life and your beliefs and goals, but never wanting to go back again? Just seems unreal. Maybe I'm just a dumby and that's how I got into my "tough time" in the first place.
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Re: LSD is addictive [Re: JPDancer]
#19331435 - 12/27/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just picked up an eighth of deemster
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Dawks
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I don't think LSD is addictive. In fact as much as I love the experiences it has as many cons as it does pros in my book.
>uncomfortable muscles >eye strain >significantly diminished survival skills >inability to do anything constructive >over confidence
and probably the biggest thing that stops me from taking LSD more often is it lasts too freakin long. Seriously, where can I find the time to devote 12 hours to what essentially amounts to mental masturbation. There's a life to be lived.
So yeah LSD is awesome but I find it very far from addictive.
Ketamine on the other hand give me another line
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Everything said: Just picked up an eighth of deemster

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