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1st Legit MonoTub
    #19325868 - 12/25/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive done trays before they came out almost great you can go into my pics to have a look.
now im doing my 1st REAL montub.
its a 66qt. sterilite tub.
with damiens coir tek

started it over 14 days ago and induced to fruiting 3 days ago.
here are some pics.
i believe i induced it into fruiting a couple days too early. but its doing fine as i can tell.
any pointers would be great thanks.
btw: its in my closet with 3x comnputer fans running almost all day and the light running mostly at night from 9:30ish to 4ish am







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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19325900 - 12/25/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yep fruited a little early but probly just get an uneven pinset


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19325904 - 12/25/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And try a liner next time


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19326046 - 12/25/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19326070 - 12/25/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good trim job


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19326754 - 12/25/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol appreciate it

Should I leave the fans runnings as long as possible or ??
And I'm also under the impression that you only need like 4-6 hours of lite.. But more doesn't hurt?


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19327095 - 12/25/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

12-12 light cycle for best results


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #19327110 - 12/25/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You can always plug it back up until it is fully colonized.  It seems really premature:shrug: 

:beavis1:  Huh huh he said premature :beavis1:

And leaving the fans running might not be necessary.  If you do use fans though make sure they are not pointed at the tub but are just blowing air around in the room that your tub is in. 


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19329072 - 12/26/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its in my closet and its not blowing hard air just turning it up and moving it around in there


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19329078 - 12/26/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just make sure you have nice beads of moisture across the surface of your sub, lots of condensation and a dry ring around your polly thats about an inch round. anything that doesn't fit the above you may be getting too much fae and need to adjust your top holes


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19329324 - 12/26/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's pretty much what's happening in there lol


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19331274 - 12/27/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

tonights update at 2:00am

it looks like cobweb mold but when i spray my mix of peroxide/h2o i dont think it hisses nor does it melt or move.. is this normal for coir/verm mix?

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19331301 - 12/27/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That does not look anything like cobweb, you should stop misting with H2O2.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19331433 - 12/27/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: KnownPown]
    #19331579 - 12/27/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok cool I've only done it couple times but i havmt excessively misted just spayed an even 1spray layer over the whole sub


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19339698 - 12/29/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Update:
12/29 2:13am
It started to pin yesterday morning!!!
I'll get pics up most likely later this morning.

I also have a question.
I've got a 72watt bulb facing down on my tub from about 4 - 4 1/2 ft.
But would a cfl be better? I've got a couple around but not sure about that wattage.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19339726 - 12/29/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive seen people like i beleive notahacker reccommend the cfl's. Deff not cobweb and also if your using damions bucket tek id reccommend you do some research on what a casing layer is and not use that step of his tek. What he says is not a real casing layer and promotes longer colonization time due to a layer of unmixed sub with no spawn in it. Wich we all know with bulk, contamination is pretty much just a matter of time so anything that unnecessarily prolongs the period before fruiting is bad.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Valyr]
    #19339777 - 12/29/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I only did like a quarter inch of casing


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19339813 - 12/29/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Yea I only did like a quarter inch of casing




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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19339861 - 12/29/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

CFLs 18 watt


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19339884 - 12/29/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And how far does anyone think that I should keep the light away from tub at?
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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19340013 - 12/29/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And how far does anyone think that I should keep the light away from tub at?
Or is it fine now
and the CFL dosnt put out anywere near as much heat as the bulb, nor is it as bright.
should i keep the cfl in or change it back to the bulb?

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19340126 - 12/29/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Stick with the CFL you don't want the incandescent bulb. CFL bulb with a kelvin rating of 6500 is what you're looking for. You're distance from light to tub should be just fine.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: mushmagic]
    #19342888 - 12/29/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How do I find that? All I see is lumens, watts and volts


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19342896 - 12/29/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it will say on the box or it will just say daylight which is what you want:thumbup:


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: PussyFart]
    #19342937 - 12/29/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

35k lol.
But it doesn't put off much heat and its like a foot or so above the tub


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19343485 - 12/29/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In an ideal world you would want to get something like this light

Get them at Petco.  There will be all sorts of different ones for all sorts of different animals, but they will all have the Kelvin rating very clearly stated on the box.  The fluorescent reptile lights are almost always 6500K, and ideally, when you have the money for it, you will want two light fixtures.  One 6500K light over the top of your tub, and one 6500K light hitting side. 

Now just about every time that I post this the OP tells me that they aren't looking to spend that type of money; they are just looking for what will work best for the least money.  That is very understandable.  When I first started this hobby I was in the same boat. If this is the case for you, and you do not have the money to drop on a lighting set up then what Hacker420 linked for you is your best deal. When you are ready you will want to get a set up with the lights I showed you.  If you are like the vast majority of people who have been involved in this for a little while, you will see that you are going to drop a lot of money on this hobby.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19343531 - 12/29/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I used to use on of those leftover from when I kept chameleons, found that I got a huge amount of mutants. Switched to a cfl and mutants gone. In retrospect the mutants were deformities, they looked cool tho.


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    #19343841 - 12/29/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Huh:shrug:  I don't think the light would cause mutants.  You should give the light another go.


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    #19343863 - 12/29/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure the high levels of UV were the culprit. I got some regular cfl now and they work just fine.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19343994 - 12/29/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool:thumbup:
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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19344351 - 12/30/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea its 3500 kelvin


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19344984 - 12/30/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How long should I keep fans on?
I've seen as little as 3 hours or every 3 hours


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    #19344989 - 12/30/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i don't shut my fan off:shrug:


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    #19344994 - 12/30/13 04:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19344999 - 12/30/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they like there air flow:thumbup:


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19345002 - 12/30/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So fan is pretty much whatever as long as it gets fae, and lites should be ATLEAST 3-4hrs. But 12/12is best?


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19345004 - 12/30/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

12/12 is best but as long as there getting something consistent it should be ok, they develop a circadian rhythm much like you and i


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19345027 - 12/30/13 05:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't even no what times I do the lights cuz I usually sleep all day then I'm up all night with the light on lol

Got nosey inlaws so I have to cut off the lights during the day sometimes for extended periods of time
Its pinning though. Not as much as I would expect.
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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19346634 - 12/30/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19347025 - 12/30/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awh yea a couple pins =) wait til next week! One of my buckets just pinned yesterday, can't wait til the end of the week!


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: KnownPown]
    #19347044 - 12/30/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Me neither. The part I love the most is how they grow 2x there size everyday after pinning


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    #19347193 - 12/30/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: cronicr]
    #19347542 - 12/30/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hell yea:grin:


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    #19349034 - 12/30/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. All that patience and time and then bam! Finally some excitement lol.


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: Valyr]
    #19349406 - 12/31/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Can't come soon enuf


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19349590 - 12/31/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

UPDATE: 4:30
i just looked at my tub and saw blue in this one spot.
freaking out lol.  :uhoh:
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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19349669 - 12/31/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

couldnt wait any longer and read up on some blue fuzz, someone said to put a damp qtip to it and if it the color bled onto the qtip it was mold, but it didnt just peices of it barley came on the qtip
others said it usually ended up being contamination.... but my myc is pinning? is this okay?

so i went and scooped it out. - should i mist that area with h2o2? and water every so often after that?



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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19349695 - 12/31/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

looks like you fruited it to early.  that might have been only bruising but i dunno looks fucked regardless

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: twistedty]
    #19349707 - 12/31/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Regardless?
How its pinning and I took it out


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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19349913 - 12/31/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

guess i could be wrong you may have scooped that out for no reason.  if it was contammed removing it doesnt help anyway might just of been bruising

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Re: 1st Legit MonoTub [Re: udntsay]
    #19349920 - 12/31/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its pinning because you put it into fruiting conditions before it was fully colonized. Use more spawn next time to decrease time on colonizing=less chance of contaminants, and let it reach 100% before you open the lid or give it fresh air.

It did look like a contamination, and if that is the case then it's probably already spread to the whole tub since that's how contams like trich work anyway. Probably best if you hadn't scooped anything out because now the entire side is exposed and ready for more contams to move in.

What you could do is fill it in with a non nutritous casing layer type sub and hope the rest of it fruits out before the thing sporulates with nasties.

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    #19350284 - 12/31/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19350326 - 12/31/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fill it in with vermiculite. Nothing grows on verm and it will protect the exposed sub. And yes. If you get a contam dont bother trying to remove it. By the time you see it in your tub its already spread throught.

This was that whole top layer of sub thing taking too long that I pointed out earlier. Im so sorry dude. Same way I learned my lesson.

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    #19350332 - 12/31/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19350386 - 12/31/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Research rez effect.

Verm is not inert, it contains trace minerals.

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    #19350442 - 12/31/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I beg to differ.  Vermiculite is not nutritious.  Mushrooms might attach themselves to vermiculite, but they aren't feeding on it IMVHO.




This is flat-out wrong. Check your facts before posting opinion based on limited knowledge as fact.

Fungi evolved before plants.  Exactly what do you think they were feeding on besides solid rock with energy supplied from the sun?

Every noob who has ever grown brf cakes through a few flushes has watched them shrink by 50% or more.  Since they're 2/3 vermiculite, exactly what do you think is being consumed if it's not the minerals?

If as you(wrongly) assume that fungi isn't digesting rock, exactly why do growers report increased benefits such as vigor and harvest weight from using vermiculite, calcium carbonate, and gypsum?
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Ah ok. SOrry I thought it was inert, I thought that the mycellium just grew over it in brf cakes. So why is it used as a contamination barrier then?


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Ah ok. SOrry I thought it was inert, I thought that the mycellium just grew over it in brf cakes. So why is it used as a contamination barrier then?



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So why is it used as a contamination barrier then?



Because, when kept dry it makes a great filter.

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Ah ok :smile:. Thank you guys. Learned somethin new again! I love this hobby lol

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    #19351429 - 12/31/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Sooooo...
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    #19351437 - 12/31/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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the camera flash from your updates seems to be doing good for them:wink:
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    #19351860 - 12/31/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Lol mabey :smile:
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Can't forget notahacker either!


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    #19351870 - 12/31/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

HOLY FUCK I'M SUCH A JUNKY FOR MUSHROOMS! I FORGOT ABOUT TONIGHT:smbfacepalm:
HAPPY F*&KING NEW YEARS PEOPLE! WAS A GREAT YEAR FOR CULTIVATING TIME TO STEP YOUR GAME UP FOR 2014!


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    #19352103 - 12/31/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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Lol mabey :smile:
Happy new years everyone who reads this.
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Can't forget notahacker either!



Happy New Years!!!!!!!!!





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    #19352111 - 12/31/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Hell yea we got the same ideas.

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    #19352118 - 12/31/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

U poppin off the 38 or that 22?


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    #19352123 - 12/31/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

.45..........14 rounds....





I do not have a 38.......that revolver is a .45/.410


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Hell yea
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I meant 380 to the righy


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    #19352132 - 12/31/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

ahhh......yea....i could do that one as well......lol


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    #19352198 - 12/31/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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    #19353691 - 01/01/14 04:28 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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    #19354467 - 01/01/14 12:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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    #19356296 - 01/01/14 09:16 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

UPDATE: 11:00PM 1/1/14 happy newyear bitcheeesss

so theyre looking good, but not as big or fat as i thought theywould?
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    #19358315 - 01/02/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

UPDATE: FLUSH 1 : 1/2/14 2:00PM
havnt scaled yet as i *thought* i only had little time to harvest and put back in closet.

here we are, also blue trich came back but its only in that one spot i cut out same as last time. this time i took extra measures and wiped that area down with alcohol and then sprayed with h2o2 on the exposed sub. hopefully i can get atleast 2 or so more flushes.
but can anyone tell me why they arnt as tall or fat as previous shrooms ive cultivated? or was this just a fuck up and theyll be better 2nd flush?
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    #19358391 - 01/02/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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    #19358667 - 01/02/14 01:51 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

On one of my trays if you go to my threads had cobweb and I believe I got 3 or so flushes


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    #19358954 - 01/02/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Cobweb and trich are not the same. I would normally blame your fruit size on available moisture and genetics, but I have found that contams like trich will often cause skimpy flushes.


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    #19359037 - 01/02/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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i'd be suprised if you get another flush:shrug:



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Cobweb and trich are not the same. I would normally blame your fruit size on available moisture and genetics, but I have found that contams like trich will often cause skimpy flushes.




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On both. Trich spreads through your sub like crazy before ever reaching the surface. Your mushrooms are fighting this contamination for nutrients and its life lol. This waste of energy is giving you smaller fruits. I'd be pleasantly surprised if you got even a bakers dozen fruits for a second flush if anything.

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    #19359255 - 01/02/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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    #19359344 - 01/02/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

It doesn't really matter what variety you had, if you started with spores that is multispore or MS. If you clone or use an isolate that single set of genetics is what a "strain" in mycology really is. With a single set of genetics you can predict with some accuracy what the outcome will be. With MS it will be different results every time.


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    #19359357 - 01/02/14 04:12 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

So it is b+, just it will always be different sizes and such unless I do something about it?


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    #19359372 - 01/02/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

The name that some vendor gave some group of spores means little.

Using spores will always give you varying genetics......this is why we isolate single sets of genetics on agar.


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    #19364877 - 01/03/14 06:21 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

1st flush is yet to be dry. 1/3/14

i still see small/ pins or heads around... i dont see trich anymore, i could be wrong.
should i dunk this, toss it, or just keep heavy misting it?
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    #19367012 - 01/04/14 06:31 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Since no one replayed Iwent ahead and put couple inches of water in the tub to soak it till around 5-6 today..
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