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OfflineFunkyBuddha
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Wrong type of people for shrooms?
    #19319639 - 12/24/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So I've got some mates that are my usual toking buddies and they know I'm growing shrooms and are excited to trip with me but I really don't think I want to trip with them or even give them some of my shrooms, not out of selfishness I just don't think they'll respect what I've put into growing them and the experience itself.

I'm going to be tripping as a way of analysing myself and trying to look further into my spirituality while these guys are the 'party hard and lets see some crazy shit' kind of guys. And it's not that I don't think they should trip, I just put so much love and time (hand grinding organic brown rice flour with mortar and pestle etc) into these shrooms that I don't feel like they 'deserve' (I know that sounds elitist and assholish but I can't think of a better word right now) my shrooms. Like I would literally rather throw my shrooms out than let them trip with them.

What do you guys think? Am I being ridiculous? Whether they get my shrooms or not, I don't think I want to trip with them because I'll just be getting annoyed at them acting like dickheads the whole time.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19319653 - 12/24/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm, thats kind of a tough one.  If you just really want to stash them, just stash them.  Then again, the idea that your "friends" know your growing is ridiculous!  Never tell anybody about your grows in the future, it will eliminate this little problem in the future. 
If you do decide to trip with them, let them know it wont be a "party" drug if thats how you want it to be observed.  Make them eat 5 grams in low light with a little music.  That will certainly eliminate the "party" drug  mentality.  Most will just pussy out.  The ones that don't will definitely not be underestimating our little fungal friends.  Course this is all dependant on the idea that you have a place that can withstand somebody freaking out, and the idea that you'll be taking a smaller dose and playing shaman for a trip. :shrug:
On a different note, why the hell would you hand grind your own BRF?  It'd be way easier to just pick some up, if not get a Mr. Coffee grinder or a food processor.  Mortor and Pestle is for the birds my friend.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19319654 - 12/24/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't give shrooms to a non sensible person, only someone I deeply trust. People who abuse shrooms get destroyed harder than they could ever possibly imagine, they need to be treated with respect.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19319674 - 12/24/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If that's how you feel, OP

Tell them what you just told us


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19319683 - 12/24/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not elitist, it's your hard work. They sound like shitty friends anyway.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: bombnigeria]
    #19319692 - 12/24/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, like I enjoy smoking weed with them because while I do sometimes, I don't always take weed as seriously as I do psychedelics. But to give you an idea of the type of people they are, just yesterday we were sitting around smoking a few cones (Bowls for th


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: bombnigeria]
    #19319693 - 12/24/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, like I enjoy smoking weed with them because while I do sometimes, I don't always take weed as seriously as I do psychedelics. But to give you an idea of the type of people they are, just yesterday we were sitting around smoking a few cones (Bowls for the yanks) and I never smoke a whole cone (which is usually around 0.05 - 0.1) in one go, it hurts my throat and I like to take my time and enjoy the hits. They always rip their cones in one breath and give me shit (not like hardcore but just teasingly) for not doing it saying I'm a 'pussy' and whatnot.

And I understand that I could just as easily buy BRF but I'm only growing these shrooms to grow as a person and understand my spirituality more deeply and I thought that if I can't be bothered to hand grind a bit of rice then I don't think I should be taking them. Made sense to me :shrug:


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19319719 - 12/24/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Its just a chemical man. :shrug: Its kind of the beautiful thing about psyches.  You don't have to sweep floors in the Ash-Ra Temple for 20 years to experience a breakthrough. You can take a little tab or eat a mushroom and touch the godhead.  Wasted effort means little. 
I wouldn't get too caught up in some of it man.  Some of the things you learn out there are for a different set of physics entirely.  Not all of it translates back down here.  Remember that the most important part is re-integration.  The people that forget that end up like John Lilly at the end.


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #19319807 - 12/24/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Here's how you should probably approach this.

First of all, if you don't feel comfortable tripping with them (you think they'll rip on you or whatnot, or you just get bad vibes), just don't. It's not worth potentially having a bad trip or at least a shitty one.

The second thing, I don't know how cool you are with these people but maybe catch them one by one and sit down with them. Ask them what they want out of the experience or why they want to take mushrooms. You might be surprised. You might get some who want to explore their inner selves despite the way they act, or most likely they will just "Wanna trip balls." Don't just shun them though. Calmly explain your hesitation to give it to them and describe to them what a trip is. Make them realize it's not just to "see colors."

It might even change the whole dynamic of your relationship with them. You never know. But it's always best to approach things like that calmly and NON-JUDGMENTALLY.

If they persist in being dickheads, then at that point you say fuck it and don't give them shit. Or give them some dried shiitake mushrooms.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19319815 - 12/24/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Good response :thumbup:


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19320202 - 12/24/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Many people under estimate the power of mushrooms
Figure it's like pot or booze

It's not...  I would listen to your inner voice, and trust that... If you don think its a good idea to give them mushrooms I would go with that...

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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19320220 - 12/24/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Aopocetx said:
Here's how you should probably approach this.

First of all, if you don't feel comfortable tripping with them (you think they'll rip on you or whatnot, or you just get bad vibes), just don't. It's not worth potentially having a bad trip or at least a shitty one.

The second thing, I don't know how cool you are with these people but maybe catch them one by one and sit down with them. Ask them what they want out of the experience or why they want to take mushrooms. You might be surprised. You might get some who want to explore their inner selves despite the way they act, or most likely they will just "Wanna trip balls." Don't just shun them though. Calmly explain your hesitation to give it to them and describe to them what a trip is. Make them realize it's not just to "see colors."

It might even change the whole dynamic of your relationship with them. You never know. But it's always best to approach things like that calmly and NON-JUDGMENTALLY.

If they persist in being dickheads, then at that point you say fuck it and don't give them shit. Or give them some dried shiitake mushrooms.




I agree with this sensible approach, if you're considering sharing with them definitely explain what tripping means to you. I would like to add that, your mates might gain something from tripping. Psychedelics tend to hammer the ego somewhat and can trigger deep introspection/self-reflection, it's not always pleasant, but its often useful.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Libertin]
    #19320396 - 12/24/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP, i can understand that because of your potentially differing views on what tripping "should" be, you might not want to trip with these people. which is fine.

if i was you though, i would just ask them why they want to trip and see what they're expecting from the experience. just talk to them about how they aren't a substance to be abused, and then you can come to the conclusion of whether or not you wanna trip with them.

that being said, what's so wrong with taking shrooms to "see colors" or "trip balls"? assuming there is respect for the psychedelic involved, who cares whether you're taking them to go on an epic quest of spirituality and self-discovery, or just because it's fun.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19320497 - 12/24/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds like you are putting alot of effort into them and that's a good thing! While you don't need to do everything by hand, if it adds to your experience in a positive way then go for it. Remember your friends aren't entitled to any of your grow just because you're buddies, but if they pitched in effort or money then they have a claim. YOU put the time, effort, and love into them, and you reap the benefits. If sharing will add to your experience then do so, if going into it solo will be better for you then do that. If they wanted to explore themselves they would grow their own, or find a source. It sounds to me like they're just freeloading off of your work.

If worse comes to worse and they get pissy and loudmouthed about it you could always say the cakes contaminated, your yield molded, and you gave it up out of frustration and lost resources. You really shouldn't have let them know about your grow because that is just a huge nono. It isn't their sentence it isn't their business.

It's alright to trip for visuals and it's alright to trip for spirituality. But normally the two don't mix and it will leave somebody unsatisfied. Maybe you could take your first trip solo, then have a group trip. It's up to you.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: jesslet]
    #19320552 - 12/24/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is alot of good advice already posted

Rule one: if you don't want to be known as the guy who has the mushrooms, then tell nobody about your grow. But whats done is done. Seems how they know about your grow you are in a little bit of a predicament. Do you tell them thay aren't getting any? Do you give in and give them some?

I consider the mushroom to be a sacrament that deserves respect, but I have no problem tripping with people who don't have that kind of respect for the psychedelic mind space as long as I truly enjoy that person's company and feel comfortable tripping around them.

I definately agree that you should explain your position to them, explain you you view the mushroom, and if you are not comfortable tripping with them then definately don't trip with them.

I don't really believe in selling mushrooms, but if it were me in your position, I would probably sell them the mushrooms at a fantastic price. Maybe 4g per bag at half the price an 8th costs in your area. This will help recover some of the costs of starting the grow, and they'll probably respect the mushroom a little more if they have something invested in the expereince. I'd also be sure to take lots of prints, then I would stop growing for awhile. When when the grow is eventually restarted I would TELL NO ONE.


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    #19320577 - 12/24/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #19323011 - 12/24/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've spoken to one of my mates and he seems to get it and why I'm not super comfortable sharing them with them but he still doesn't see how it could possibly be spiritual so I'll share them with him, if for no other reason that to help him understand. My other mate I'm not too sure about, he's going to be staying with me for a week or two in January so I'll sus it out, talk to him about it and make up my mind during the first few days of that. Thanks for the help guys.

Peace


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19323112 - 12/24/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

After the experience I just had, I will never give these precious little guys to anyone who doesn't understand the power of the fungus. As my buddy told me, who actually got me interested in psilocybin, who himself just got back from Ashville and hanging out with Alex Grey, who apparently is some famous new ager, "It just heals shit."

I suppose there's nothing wrong with people seeking to have a good time and consume these babies, but they should know what they're getting into.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: happygolucky]
    #19324512 - 12/25/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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happygolucky said:
After the experience I just had, I will never give these precious little guys to anyone who doesn't understand the power of the fungus. As my buddy told me, who actually got me interested in psilocybin, who himself just got back from Ashville and hanging out with Alex Grey, who apparently is some famous new ager, "It just heals shit."

I suppose there's nothing wrong with people seeking to have a good time and consume these babies, but they should know what they're getting into.




Alex Grey is an awesome artist! Didn't know he was 'new-agey.'

Hey OP, let us know what happens so we can know how to approach the situation you have.


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Re: Wrong type of people for shrooms? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19324520 - 12/25/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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FunkyBuddha said:
Yeah I've spoken to one of my mates and he seems to get it and why I'm not super comfortable sharing them with them but he still doesn't see how it could possibly be spiritual so I'll share them with him, if for no other reason that to help him understand. My other mate I'm not too sure about, he's going to be staying with me for a week or two in January so I'll sus it out, talk to him about it and make up my mind during the first few days of that. Thanks for the help guys.

Peace




Set up time for you and this mate who's staying with you a time to trip together, give him a fairly large dose if you think he could take it and try to guide him though it the same way you'd deal with it... I've done the same thing with my own friends now we all are on the same page and I enjoy being with them over a trip.


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