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Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid * 10
    #19323573 - 12/24/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

by Phillip Smith, December 24, 2013, 04:40pm, (Issue #815)

A Burleson County sheriff's deputy leading a dawn, no-knock drug raid was shot and killed by the homeowner last Thursday. Sgt. Adam Sowders becomes the 40th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.

Deputy Adam Sowders was killed executing a no-knock drug raid over some marijuana plants. (http://www.co.burleson.tx.us)
Although Sowders was killed early last Thursday morning, we delayed reporting the story because the sheriff's department refused for several days to release search warrant information that would have verified it was indeed a drug-related search warrant.

According to the Bryan-College Station Eagle, Sowders had obtained a search warrant for the residence after obtaining information that the homeowner was growing marijuana and possibly had stolen guns. The warrant was a "no-knock" warrant, meaning police could forcibly enter the residence without giving residents a chance to respond.

Sowders, the first officer through the door, was shot and killed by homeowner Henry Goedrich Magee, 28, who has now been charged with capital murder. But Magee's attorney, famed Houston defense lawyer Dick DeGuerin, said Magee and his pregnant girlfriend were sleeping in the home when they heard "explosives" going off and loud pounding at the door. Moments later, the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence. Magee grabbed a rifle leaning against his bedroom door frame and shot Sowders. According to DeGuerin, Magee shot him because he "believed the man rushing in was an intruder and he needed to defend himself."

Magee has a felony and a misdemeanor drug conviction, but DeGuerin said all investigators found inside the trailer were a few marijuana plants and four guns that were all legal. DeGuerin pointed at the no-knock warrant as a contributing factor in Sowder's death.

"The danger is that if you're sitting in your home and it's pitch black outside and your door gets busted in without warning, what the hell are you supposed to do?" DeGuerin said.

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Simplepowa] * 5
    #19323577 - 12/24/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Meh.

Don't be an idiot and rush into someone else's home and not expect to get shot. My sympathy goes out to the homeowner for this bullshit though.

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charged with capital murder.





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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #19323594 - 12/24/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When a cop's gun "accidentally" goes off in a ohio minor drug raid killing a mother it is no big deal.  This guy is doomed.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: baraka] * 11
    #19323698 - 12/24/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cop got what he deserved.

He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.

Hope he is reflecting on how much of a shitbag he was in hell.


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    #19323796 - 12/24/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Greendreams]
    #19324471 - 12/25/13 05:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I feel sorry for everyone involved. You guys have noone to blame than you and your representatives for not standing up against these stupid laws.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19324592 - 12/25/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think this is a pretty clear cut case of castle law.  Then again, I'm no lawyer.  I really hope this guy gets acquitted, although I don't think Texans take too kindly to the wacky tabaccy in those parts. 

It's hard to say whether this cop deserved what he got; personally, I'd like to see no deaths caused on either side of the drug war.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19324683 - 12/25/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Simplepowa said:
by Phillip Smith, December 24, 2013, 04:40pm, (Issue #815)

A Burleson County sheriff's deputy leading a dawn, no-knock drug raid was shot and killed by the homeowner last Thursday. Sgt. Adam Sowders becomes the 40th person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.





I feel no remorse in the news when a pig gets killed in this stupid war.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Eminence]
    #19324686 - 12/25/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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frylock91 said:
Meh.

Don't be an idiot and rush into someone else's home and not expect to get shot. My sympathy goes out to the homeowner for this bullshit though.

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charged with capital murder.








A capitol murder charge is worth it in my book.  One less asshole in the world.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin] * 2
    #19324774 - 12/25/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

than why haven't you killed a cop yet?


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 4
    #19324971 - 12/25/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Probably because those foolish enough to say such things are too busy living in the basement of their mommy and daddy.

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19325032 - 12/25/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Ritual]
    #19325041 - 12/25/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ritual said:
Cop got what he deserved.

He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.

Hope he is reflecting on how much of a shitbag he was in hell.




yep, if there was an afterlife and i was the cop, i would be seriously thinking hard about why i died over a plant.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19325048 - 12/25/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, This really blows.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: 404]
    #19325087 - 12/25/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cop got what he deserved.

He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.

Hope he is reflecting on how much of a shitbag he was in hell.




yep, if there was an afterlife and i was the cop, i would be seriously thinking hard about why i died over a plant.






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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19325121 - 12/25/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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than why haven't you killed a cop yet?




Because one hasn't tried to break and enter my house yet.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19325168 - 12/25/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Probably because those foolish enough to say such things




Foolish to speak my mind on the Shroomery?  What, the NSA/cops gonna serve me a no-knock for not threatening anyone?  Please.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin] * 5
    #19325201 - 12/25/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If a cop sees a guy on the street with something in his hand, or reaching into his pocket, and shoots him, thinking it's a gun (thinking that he, the officer, needs to defend himself) it is called a tragic accident. And they take that kind of stance.


"We feel real torn up over this tragic accident, but it's dangerous out there, and the officer had reason to believe he was in danger, and responded in the manner he is trained to respond...."


...that sort of thing.



But when it's a civilian, in almost the exact same kind of situation? He gets charged with fucking murder!


How is that, in any way, right? That is a ridiculous double standard. This guy had reason to believe he was in danger, and he responded the way he thought he had to, to protect himself and his pregnant girlfriend-- his family. Any cop in that situation (having someone burst in their home unannounced) would have done the exact same thing.


I also think it's funny that they, at first, did not want to admit that it was a no-knock drug raid. And I did notice that they do not mention they seized anything else. It mentions he is being charged with murder... but where are the additional charges for the drugs and guns that the warrant was based on? You think they're going to let a cop killer go to court without charging him with every last infraction they can come up with? Not likely.


So I guess, this is either sloppy reporting, or they were engaged in sloppy police work.


In fact, I'd say there's no guessing involved, on that last one. No-knock drug raids are sloppy police work. They put both the cops and the suspects in unnecessary danger. I understand what's behind it. They don't want to give people time to destroy evidence. But there are other ways to deal with this. I've heard of cops shutting off the water / plumbing in a house so drugs can't be flushed.  Or perhaps they could try a happy medium-- get everyone all set outside the door... ready to go in. Then run the siren and call out on a bullhorn "Police-- We have a warrant. We are coming in."  Maybe repeat that once, then ram the fucking door in.


Is that really too much to ask? I think they should have to somehow announce themselves as police, loudly and offer at least a few seconds for this information to sink in. I'd be willing to bet that such a practice would at least cut down on cases like this.


Or, don't learn from your mistakes. Just keep up this ridiculous practice, and cops will keep dying.



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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin] * 1
    #19325221 - 12/25/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Probably because those foolish enough to say such things




Foolish to speak my mind on the Shroomery?  What, the NSA/cops gonna serve me a no-knock for not threatening anyone?  Please.




No, you are free to speak your mind.  It's just that most people don't take pleasure from the death of another human being.  :shrug:  Presumably that person has a family, who is now grieving on Christmas.  I find it quite sad.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #19325228 - 12/25/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If a cop sees a guy on the street with something in his hand, or reaching into his pocket, and shoots him, thinking it's a gun (thinking that he, the officer, needs to defend himself) it is called a tragic accident. And they take that kind of stance....
But when it's a civilian, in almost the exact same kind of situation? He gets charged with fucking murder!


How is that, in any way, right? That is a ridiculous double standard....would have done the exact same thing.

No-knock drug raids are sloppy police work.....
Is that really too much to ask? I think they should have to somehow announce themselves as police, loudly....




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #19325253 - 12/25/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And this cop or any cop for that matter doesn't delight in the death of a "druggy"?  I lost my sense of remorse for ANYONE who takes pleasure in killing people, their pets and their handicapped/elderly grandparents and children over a plant.

And yes, they take pleasure in it or they would find a new job.

So sorry.  You are not going to receive any remorse from me when a douchebag gets what he deserves.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19325295 - 12/25/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is why all of the cops should be screaming that this is a police search warrant..


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin] * 2
    #19325300 - 12/25/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My mistake, but I'm sure you'll understand how these two statements could be confused for saying that killing a cop is an act worth the resulting murder charge:

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MacMerdin said:
Good.  I delight in the news when a pig gets killed in this stupid war.



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MacMerdin said:
A capitol murder charge is worth it in my book.  One less asshole in the world.






Look man, I've never hidden my contempt for the police force and what it represents--I'm just saying that the idea of giving a life in exchange for taking a life is not 'worth it'--there is a reason propaganda of the deed has been gathering dust on the back of the anarchist tactics shelf since about WWI.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #19325321 - 12/25/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I understand and agree that I SHOULDN'T feel this way but they really have no one to blame but themselves for the way I and many others feel.

Don't kick in someone's door unannounced and maybe I'll feel sorry when you get shot.  If not, then you deserved to get shot.  Period.

Just like any thief deserves to get shot in the same scenario.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19325350 - 12/25/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I understand and agree that I SHOULDN'T feel this way but they really have no one to blame but themselves for the way I and many others feel.

Don't kick in someone's door unannounced and maybe I'll feel sorry when you get shot.  If not, then you deserved to get shot.  Period.

Just like any thief deserves to get shot in the same scenario.



Except this guy broke enough laws to warrant the cops breaking his door down...the issue iss whether the police identified themselves as executing a search warrant...it seems some of the "no knock" policies should be revised


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Pureless]
    #19325359 - 12/25/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whatever the case, one less piggie. :cool:

If it was for a drug raid, that's even sadder because the swine threw his life away making the world a worse place.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: st1llnox]
    #19325415 - 12/25/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why is there like 3 people copying vivalamushie's avy and sig? Weird.


Anyway, fuck Texas. I've been hearin so much BS coming from TX lately.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Eminence]
    #19325420 - 12/25/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Why is there like 3 people copying vivalamushie's avy and sig? Weird.


Anyway, fuck Texas. I've been hearin so much BS coming from TX lately.




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19326007 - 12/25/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I feel sorry for everyone involved. You guys have noone to blame than you and your representatives for not standing up against these stupid laws.




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Konyap]
    #19326448 - 12/25/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Where's the NRA? Shouldn't they be sucking this guy's dick on the capitol steps right now?


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: illuminati]
    #19326562 - 12/25/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this is a pretty clear cut caseright of castle law.  Then again, I'm no lawyer.  I really hope this guy gets acquitted, although I don't think Texans take too kindly to the wacky tabaccy in those parts. 

It's hard to say whether this cop deserved what he got; personally, I'd like to see no deaths caused on either side of the drug war.




Yeah, were pretty bad on weed laws here, but we're even more gunho about the  right to protect your home with a gun. When the castle law went into effect, there were old people shooting at kids crossing there yard...


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: huffinglue] * 2
    #19326839 - 12/25/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

im so happy a cop died from all this. wish it was more tho  :shrug:


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #19328333 - 12/26/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The cop was probably in uniform right? How do you not know its a cop? Im sure if he knew it was a cop though he wouldnt have shot...at least i would assume. Interesting...he is getting charged for the killing right? Thats where the felony came in? Poor guy...he probably really didnt mean to


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: huffinglue]
    #19328357 - 12/26/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this is a pretty clear cut caseright of castle law.  Then again, I'm no lawyer.  I really hope this guy gets acquitted, although I don't think Texans take too kindly to the wacky tabaccy in those parts. 

It's hard to say whether this cop deserved what he got; personally, I'd like to see no deaths caused on either side of the drug war.




Yeah, were pretty bad on weed laws here, but we're even more gunho about the  right to protect your home with a gun. When the castle law went into effect, there were old people shooting at kids crossing there yard...




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells] * 1
    #19328673 - 12/26/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you not know its a cop?




Really? Really?

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 4
    #19328843 - 12/26/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You guys are missing the point, 3 dangerous pot plants are now off the streets. Any law enforement officer would gladly lay down their lives to enforce that policy, as they are sworn in to do.

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19329790 - 12/26/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you not know its a cop?




Really? Really?

What I want to know is how you can't think of a good 3 - 4 reasons without stressing a single brain cell.




Idk I haven't been in the situation before but dont you have a second to look before you grab your gun, look & point, then pull the trigger and pop pop. I mean he's wearing a bright blue uniform cmon... but whata i know i guess im wrong. I totally understand it could have been a burglary but w/e fuck it


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells] * 1
    #19329829 - 12/26/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

uhm cops will storm houses wearing nothing but t-shirts and ski mask, sometimes they won't even tell anyone they did it lol


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    #19330139 - 12/26/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #19331755 - 12/27/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Charges of negligence and arrogance un-befitting a socially-present human being should being applied to all police taking part in that raid. Compensation should be paid to the homeowner for the damaged door.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells] * 1
    #19331832 - 12/27/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How do you not know its a cop?




Really? Really?

What I want to know is how you can't think of a good 3 - 4 reasons without stressing a single brain cell.




Idk I haven't been in the situation before but dont you have a second to look before you grab your gun, look & point, then pull the trigger and pop pop. I mean he's wearing a bright blue uniform cmon... but whata i know i guess im wrong. I totally understand it could have been a burglary but w/e fuck it




Were you there? Do you know he had a uniform? (I've read several versions of this story and none mentioned the cop was in uniform)

What was the resident supposed to do? "Ummm excuse me, you fine fellows busting down my door in the middle of the night wouldn't perchance be police officers... would you?"

:rofl2:

Give it a rest. Don't beclown yourself further.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 3
    #19332462 - 12/27/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow guy...wow. You twisted my first question in the quote and tried to make me look retarded then the second time told me to stop beclowning myself over a simple misunderstanding lmao. I found it hard to believe people just grab their gun and shoot everything that comes in their home without giving a quick glance and i figured with a bright blue uniform they wouldlnt pull the trigger so quick, well turns out cops dont wear uniform bargining into homes which is fucking retarded because it would look like a burglary and id shoot the fuck too. Point is you bro have power issues on the interwebz and im gonna assume its because you arent much of anything in real life. Learn to have a civil conversation and relax...not to me tion looking at your ratings proves everything i pretty much said


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19332526 - 12/27/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What luvdem is saying is that it's silly to think he should have "glanced" to see who was breaking into his house. The moment of figuring out who it was could be the deciding factor if he gets robbed or not. It's his house. Many americans would likely shoot first ask questions later when someone is invading their house.  Police should have verbally identified themselves.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells] * 1
    #19332543 - 12/27/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Wow guy...wow. You twisted my first question in the quote and tried to make me look retarded then the second time told me to stop beclowning myself over a simple misunderstanding lmao. I found it hard to believe people just grab their gun and shoot everything that comes in their home without giving a quick glance and i figured with a bright blue uniform they wouldlnt pull the trigger so quick, well turns out cops dont wear uniform bargining into homes which is fucking retarded because it would look like a burglary and id shoot the fuck too. Point is you bro have power issues on the interwebz and im gonna assume its because you arent much of anything in real life. Learn to have a civil conversation and relax...not to me tion looking at your ratings proves everything i pretty much said




The point is that you said something stupid. Then, instead of laughing at your own statement, you doubled down in it with an even more stupid statement.

Then, as if that wasn't enough, you decided to attempt to insult me. :laugh2:

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Pureless]
    #19332587 - 12/27/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What luvdem is saying is that it's silly to think he should have "glanced" to see who was breaking into his house. The moment of figuring out who it was could be the deciding factor if he gets robbed or not. It's his house. Many americans would likely shoot first ask questions later when someone is invading their house.  Police should have verbally identified themselves.




Excellent. A thinker.

I'd change a couple words though...

"What luvdem is saying is that it's silly stupid to think he should have "glanced" to see who was breaking into his house."

"The moment of figuring out who it was could be the deciding factor if he gets robbed murdered or not."


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19332662 - 12/27/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence."

Guess he did look beforehand, thats what i wasnt getting...like from what i read it seemed like he had a little time to see the intruder. Lets forget it, it was a miscommunication by you jumped on me like you aint eatin tonight my damn. Like what if it was a family member or neighbor who needed serious help idfk you get it. I understand both points


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19332679 - 12/27/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ya a no knock search not a good idea in the south ik people who would shoot theyre own kid if they tried coming in the house at night to bad it was a rifle woulda been better to read picked up the legally purchased AA shotgun with drum mag...


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    #19332696 - 12/27/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I really just dont understand one bit how a cop going into someones home doesnt wear a uniform. Makes nooo sense because if he had one on he'd still be alive most likely,the owner did see him when he entered so all of this could have been avoided. Isnt that like not a fucking law in its own?


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19332706 - 12/27/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence."

Guess he did look beforehand, thats what i wasnt getting...like from what i read it seemed like he had a little time to see the intruder. Lets forget it, it was a miscommunication by you jumped on me like you aint eatin tonight my damn. Like what if it was a family member or neighbor who needed serious help idfk you get it. I understand both points




Tripling down doesn't help.

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19332715 - 12/27/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

All it would of taken to save him is simple knock knock sheriffs department.


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    #19332724 - 12/27/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Omg shut the fuck up u nasty fuck with a peice o metal in ur nipple ur fucking annoying me leave the poor girl alone for fucksake does everyone have to be an asshole


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    #19332757 - 12/27/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The Police  don't care about what their no knock invasions do to anyone else.
So I don't feel bad about this at all. If I was the dude who pulled the trigger
I wouldn't accept any plea bargains.

Do they care when they bust down the wrong door or shoot someone?
So why should we care about their unwanted invasions?
Maybe, next time they'll knock. :laugh:


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    #19332771 - 12/27/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Omg shut the fuck up u nasty fuck with a peice o metal in ur nipple ur fucking annoying me leave the poor girl alone for fucksake does everyone have to be an asshole




I was born to be an asshole. I happen to enjoy accuracy and clear and coherent thought. I happen to dislike stupid statements and lack of thought.

Like yours.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19332949 - 12/27/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck him. The pig got what he was bargaining for. The homeowner would have been justified turning all of the fuckers into bacon grease. And what a lot of grease there was! Did you see that fat fucking pig? Jesus christ all I could think of was Chief Wiggum from The Simpsons! But I digress, good on the homeowner. The only good cops are the ones who play in Elvis's band.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Notfromarkansas]
    #19333029 - 12/27/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ya a no knock search not a good idea in the south ik people who would shoot theyre own kid if they tried coming in the house at night to bad it was a rifle woulda been better to read picked up the legally purchased AA shotgun with drum mag...



this happened here in Ohio a while ago.

a  9 year old kid was hiding in his grandpa's closet on his birthday. he burst out of the closet and yelled 'happy birthday' and his grandpa picked up the gun from beneath his pillow and shot n killed the lil kid immediately.

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19333134 - 12/27/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The Police  don't care about what their no knock invasions do to anyone else.
So I don't feel bad about this at all. If I was the dude who pulled the trigger
I wouldn't accept any plea bargains.

Do they care when they bust down the wrong door or shoot someone?
So why should we care about their unwanted invasions?
Maybe, next time they'll knock. :laugh:




Thank you.

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"the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence."

Guess he did look beforehand, thats what i wasnt getting...like from what i read it seemed like he had a little time to see the intruder. Lets forget it, it was a miscommunication by you jumped on me like you aint eatin tonight my damn. Like what if it was a family member or neighbor who needed serious help idfk you get it. I understand both points




Tripling down doesn't help.

You should quit before you beclown yourself further.





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I really just dont understand one bit how a cop going into someones home doesnt wear a uniform. Makes nooo sense because if he had one on he'd still be alive most likely,the owner did see him when he entered so all of this could have been avoided. Isnt that like not a fucking law in its own?




I'm not down with luvdem's insulting ways, but I side with him/her on this one. If anybody here has been woken up to not just BANGing but hard enough to break the locks on your door, you'd know that it is cause for ALARM/PANIC as your heart will probably be racing.

If someone is standing in your doorway at night and you have a porchlight, the intruder(s) is back-lit, which means he is a silhouette or just a dark,shadowy figure who has broke into your family's home. It sounds obvious to say so, but I don't think "Wait! Step into the light so I can see you before I shoot," will work.

Also, I personally am super-near-sighted, so the figure would also be blurry in addition to being dark and shadowy. I guess I could try, "Wait dark, shadowy, blurry intruder! Stop advancing toward me and my family while I put on my glasses in order to properly assess the situation before I shoot you, just in case this is another one of those no-knock-warrant-raids and you guys are actually cops! You tricky guys, you!"
The level of your 'survival mode' depends on many things, like who's under your roof, the relative safety of your neighborhood, time of day/night, the aggressiveness required for entry, etc. With the info given, it seems to me that the shooter acted as any household protector -- who believes in the protection that a firearm can provide -- would have in a state where it is legal to fatally shoot an unlawful intruder.

I relate these no-knock raids to entrapment. Y'all heard of the Salem Witch Trials?...An anonymous informer would tell the church that so-and-so is a witch. The method by which she'd be 'tried' often consisted of tying her up and throwing her into the river; if she broke free of the ropes and came up, then well, she must have been a witch and was burned at the stake...pretty logical, right. Disclaimer: I'm aware that raids like the one in question are not exactly like the witch trials.

It should not be a mystery that corruption and intentional deception courses through ours and many governments' laws in many ways. With that said, I do take delight NOT in the death of a fellow human being but in that corruption slapping them back in the face in any way, shape, or form. Tragically, one cop has died for an unjust cause, meanwhile the people who sent him to do it are probably afraid that some of that raid's proceeds might have to go to paying for his funeral.


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    #19334934 - 12/27/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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When a cop's gun "accidentally" goes off in a ohio minor drug raid killing a mother it is no big deal.  This guy is doomed.



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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Notfromarkansas]
    #19334992 - 12/27/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Omg shut the fuck up u nasty fuck with a peice o metal in ur nipple ur fucking annoying me leave the poor girl alone for fucksake does everyone have to be an asshole




LOL do I really come across as a chick? no wayyy:lol:


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"the door burst open and a person Magee couldn't identify entered the residence."

Guess he did look beforehand, thats what i wasnt getting...like from what i read it seemed like he had a little time to see the intruder. Lets forget it, it was a miscommunication by you jumped on me like you aint eatin tonight my damn. Like what if it was a family member or neighbor who needed serious help idfk you get it. I understand both points




Tripling down doesn't help.

You should quit before you beclown yourself further.




:knockmeonmyass:

Grow up bro. Sorry I didn't say something brilliant to begin with, I was just kind of confused about how all of this was able to happen and didn't really think out how to word it i guess lol. You would just think people in law enforcement would have this shit more planned out beforehand, that's their job...to prevent shit like this from happening and I was just trying be part of the conversation because idk, I love the vibe I get off people talking on here even if it's not perfectly thought out; this also is a drug forum not a fucking science forum don't go so hard on people because we're usually fucked up on something. It's all good though you're prob butthurt and/or have a rough life and use this site as an outlet. I don't get angry because i realize nobody normal tries as hard as people like you to get people's skin to crawl. :2girls1cup:

I wish you nothing but the best though holmes :thumbup::peace:


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19335604 - 12/28/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You're still butthurt today?

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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19336271 - 12/28/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol, it looks like you made your "stand up..." sig just for this one post.
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I feel sorry for everyone involved. You guys have noone to blame than you and your representatives for not standing up against these stupid laws.




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: dwnlw2slw] * 2
    #19340669 - 12/29/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is disgusting that the holy sacramental plant is persecuted in our society, but in this situation the cops just need to announce themselves so the others can decide if they want to kill a cop, and not just protect themselves from anything that could happen. Some actions may warrant death but I'm sure not what that cop was doing

But the wishing for the death of cops and stuff over these stories is so disgusting and misguided I had to log in for the first time in years to comment.

Read up on the interconnected nature of reality and take some psychedelics and feel how you are not disconnected from any piece of reality ever, including that cop and all his friends and family,  and that those negative feelings are absolutely negatively effecting reality.  Change and effect it positively. Sheesh, good luck guys


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19340734 - 12/29/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

SOMEONE DIED OVER A PLANT...  BULLSH**T  The goverment has been able to use this way of thinking to keep laws in their favor. This act was due to very poor planning on the sheriff's part, he knew there where guns in the house, I mean why stake the guy out and pull him over when he leaves his house then execute a search on his house.  Seems eveyone in TX is a gun owner well most anyways. Guns &  potgrows are a real hard pill for me to swallow cause you need protection for your home but growing in the place you live in along with your pregnant wife, girlfriend is not a very good judgement call. It was probally a person who he knows well who gave the cops bogus info on him in the first place. I feel for both the guy in jail as well as the cops family he was doing what his boss told him to do.Its the sheriff who should be questioned about his method of serving warrants, he should give up his duties to someone who can make their community safer without being so gun-ho...


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19340883 - 12/29/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It is disgusting that the holy sacramental plant is persecuted in our society, but in this situation the cops just need to announce themselves so the others can decide if they want to kill a cop, and not just protect themselves from anything that could happen. Some actions may warrant death but I'm sure not what that cop was doing

But the wishing for the death of cops and stuff over these stories is so disgusting and misguided I had to log in for the first time in years to comment.

Read up on the interconnected nature of reality and take some psychedelics and feel how you are not disconnected from any piece of reality ever, including that cop and all his friends and family,  and that those negative feelings are absolutely negatively effecting reality.  Change and effect it positively. Sheesh, good luck guys




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: sololas]
    #19340921 - 12/29/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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SOMEONE DIED OVER A PLANT...  BULLSH**T  The goverment has been able to use this way of thinking to keep laws in their favor. This act was due to very poor planning on the sheriff's part, he knew there where guns in the house, I mean why stake the guy out and pull him over when he leaves his house then execute a search on his house.  Seems eveyone in TX is a gun owner well most anyways. Guns &  potgrows are a real hard pill for me to swallow cause you need protection for your home but growing in the place you live in along with your pregnant wife, girlfriend is not a very good judgement call. It was probally a person who he knows well who gave the cops bogus info on him in the first place. I feel for both the guy in jail as well as the cops family he was doing what his boss told him to do.Its the sheriff who should be questioned about his method of serving warrants, he should give up his duties to someone who can make their community safer without being so gun-ho...



I don't understand. What do you have against growing pot in one's home?


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in. Give No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Ran-D]
    #19340977 - 12/29/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont. But to do it in TX is asking for trouble, that state is so behind on laws and the law states no growing in TX. Does this make sense? I would not live in that state because of that either. Also it wasnt just him he was risking his girl and future child, poor decisions on his part in growing in TX. The sheriff is the one liable for his deputy's actions, he should be the one answering to the public, and not wait 5 days to release it out so he could get his story cleaned up. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HERBS IM GROWING SOME MYSELF....


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19341643 - 12/29/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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holy sacramental plant




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19344991 - 12/30/13 04:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nobody is WISHING for cops to die. Seriously though, if it takes a cop's life to shed light on the situation, so that it's not repeated, then so be it. Contrarily, the death of a civilian usually doesn't have the same impact. Even still, the death of this cop has probably meant less to those who sent him than to those on this blog claiming to take 'delight.'

Also, the war on drugs being the misguided war on consciousness that it is...it's fundamentally 'evil'...it's the evil propaganda that maybe caused this cop to believe he was doing the right thing by going in there.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: dwnlw2slw]
    #19345593 - 12/30/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19346726 - 12/30/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.




Maybe YOU should read the thread.  The comment was PIG.  There is a huge difference between a PIG and a cop.  A cop upholds the constitution of the USA.  A pig tramples on those rights.

My brother is a cop.

Do you really think I meant that I wish death on my brother?

So, maybe you would like to know what YOU are talking about before making such dumb comments.

There is a difference between "delighting" when a PIG gets what he deserves, and wishing for all cops to die.  So, don't be the foolish one again.

Also, please quote me when I even said I wish for a PIG's death.  I only said I delight in hearing the news.  Also a difference.

So, before you get your holier-than-thou attitude in a bunch again, please try to do what you lambast others for and actually READ.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Jvells]
    #19346909 - 12/30/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Idk I haven't been in the situation before but dont you have a second to look before you grab your gun, look & point, then pull the trigger and pop pop. I mean he's wearing a bright blue uniform cmon... but whata i know i guess im wrong. I totally understand it could have been a burglary but w/e fuck it



A man defending a pregnant wife is not in the market to wait to verify someone in uniform.  When it is dark ouside, blue is black, and silhouettes are sometimes all you have.  If the police had any common sense, this would have been a variable.  There is NO WAY IN HELL that you can tell me that they were not aware of the pregnant wife.  They choose to ignore that fact.  Im pretty sure there is a psychological expert on the force that would have pointed out that a man in that situation may act brash.

Pot or not, sounds like a raid gone bad.  Where on earth would 2 people have hid 4 plants in a trailer that a dog couldn't have found it?  They should have used common sense and waited till daybreak and knocked first.  Wooops, now their error has cost one of them his own life, but they will try and pin that on the "criminal".

Why did they wait so long to divulge his death?  Why were none of the officers wearing cams?  This may have been legal for them to do, but it obviously was not the right thing to do.  No loss of life is worth any amount of pot, and my heart goes out to ALL of the victims here.

The officer who died
The expectant father
The mother
The child
ALL OF THEIR FAMILIES

We all know that this guy will never see the light of day, no matter how good his attorney is.  As others have pointed out, police have accidents with guns, while homeowners are criminals with guns.

Its sad no matter who is right, because at the end of the day, everyone involved will suffer.

I bet a knock on the door would have solved all the above issues.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19347026 - 12/30/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody is WISHING for cops to die.




So, you didn't read the thread before saying something so foolish.

Good for you. Most of us like to know what we're talking about before making such dumb comments.




Maybe YOU should read the thread.  The comment was PIG.  There is a huge difference between a PIG and a cop.  A cop upholds the constitution of the USA.  A pig tramples on those rights.

My brother is a cop.

Do you really think I meant that I wish death on my brother?

So, maybe you would like to know what YOU are talking about before making such dumb comments.

There is a difference between "delighting" when a PIG gets what he deserves, and wishing for all cops to die.  So, don't be the foolish one again.

Also, please quote me when I even said I wish for a PIG's death.  I only said I delight in hearing the news.  Also a difference.

So, before you get your holier-than-thou attitude in a bunch again, please try to do what you lambast others for and actually READ.




You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19347050 - 12/30/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.



QFT.

And pig/cop are both derogatory terms.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Ritual]
    #19347997 - 12/30/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cop got what he deserved.

He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.

Hope he is reflecting on how much of a shitbag he was in hell.





Exactly. 

Hope the home owner does not get charged.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: FlusH]
    #19348148 - 12/30/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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He broke into someone's home trying to deprive them of their freedom for growing marijuana plants.







Exactly. 

Hope the home owner does not get charged.





Last I checked it was illegal in Texas, though Im not up on laws in other states and countries.  The police have a right to follow up on possible crimes, and most likely one of his "customers" ratted him out. 

The police showed up on a suspicion of STOLEN GUNS AND POT.  At what point did kicking in a door seem like a bright idea?  If you know/think someone has guns, why on earth would you act that way.

Anyone could have predicted this to end badly.  Its not good that someone died, but he died doing his job (as he signed up for). Even if he did make a mistake by breaking down a door, it certainly was not worth his life.

Ask around with local officers if they would put their life on the line for 2-4 pot plants.  Most will tell you flat up that they are worried about real crimes.  I can imagine here that the emphasis of the "no-knock" was that he allegedly had stolen guns.

This is the issue.  I think that WHOEVER advised the police, did it in a way that required them to act.  I would imagine that a pissed off customer/ex-friend ratted.  IF SOMEONE lied to the police about stolen guns (they found No stolen weapons), they should be charged as well for the same exact crime of murder.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19349847 - 12/31/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You delight in someones death. That's really all that needs to be said about what kind of human you are.




Yup.  I'm the type of human who doesn't care when I hear of a casualty of the enemy in a stupid war.  I didn't declare war on them.  It was the other way around.  If the tactics of fighting the war on drugs changed, I would start feeling sorry for policeman and women who get injured or worse as they fight real crime.  But not ones who are foolish enough to go kicking in doors unannounced.  When the supposed crime was of all things "having guns".

I guess that makes me a bad person?

But, it's ok to be an asshole on a daily basis to most posters here?  What type of human are you?

Oh, wait...you already answered for us:

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I was born to be an asshole.




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19349888 - 12/31/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I guess that makes me a bad person?




Nah. Not caring doesn't make you a bad person. Feeling "delight" at the deaths of others sure qualifies though.


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What type of human are you?




Well for starters, one who doesn't delight in the death of others.

And one clearly not as butthurt as you.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: huffinglue]
    #19349909 - 12/31/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think this is a pretty clear cut case of castle law.  Then again, I'm no lawyer.  I really hope this guy gets acquitted, although I don't think Texans take too kindly to the wacky tabaccy in those parts. 

It's hard to say whether this cop deserved what he got; personally, I'd like to see no deaths caused on either side of the drug war.




Yeah, were pretty bad on weed laws here, but we're even more gunho about the  right to protect your home with a gun. When the castle law went into effect, there were old people shooting at kids crossing there yard...




Don't get me wrong, I definitely believe in the right to own and defend your home with a firearm.  Old people shooting at kids crossing their yards is totally crazy, but if someone broke down my door in the wee morning hours, they'd get a warning, then I'd start shooting.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19350179 - 12/31/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I guess "delight" would be the wrong word to use as I don't wish death on anyone, nor delight in it.  I was having a real bad day when I typed that 

How about.....not feeling any remorse? 

Does that ease the bleeding heart's concerns around here?

And Buthurt?  Nah.  Not everyone who disagrees with you is "buthurt".




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19350242 - 12/31/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You're correct. Not everyone who disagrees with me is butthurt. The shoe fits you though. Your butthurt during our exchanges has been priceless.

"Bleeding heart"? :laugh2: That's pretty much the funniest thing I've heard in some time. I personally feel nothing when most die. I simply don't care and it doesn't affect me. However, should the day come when I "delight" in the death of others, I hope I drop dead because that "delight" would make me a pretty shitty human.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19350359 - 12/31/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I changed the wording of my original post.

But, to show you how much of an asshole you are, you just told me you hope that I drop dead because I'm a shitty person (in so many words).

Isn't that wishing death on someone?

Pot....meet kettle.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: MacMerdin]
    #19350537 - 12/31/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I said no such thing. In your desperation to come off as less heartless, you resort to putting words in my mouth?

Too funny, but not unexpected.

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Isn't that wishing death on someone?




Only if you fail at reading comprehension.

It's a shame you keep trying. Those with self-respect would have quit by now.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19351144 - 12/31/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

:lolsy:


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19357965 - 01/02/14 11:17 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Kodos said:
holy sacramental plant




:lolsy:





sorry if that statement is too complicated for you to understand, but if you need it explained:

from dictionary.com:

holy  adjective

1.specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated: holy ground.
2.dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion: a holy man.
3.saintly; godly; pious; devout: a holy life.
4.having a spiritually pure quality: a holy love.
5.entitled to worship or veneration as or as if sacred: a holy relic.

cannabis falls under all 5 of these in my experience of reality.

sac·ra·ment  noun (christianity has arrogantly forced its own specific definitions but that doesn't negate the true meaning of the word outside that specific tradition)

4. something regarded as possessing a sacred character or mysterious significance.

to me cannabis is exactly that. and I hope I don't need to explain any further how it is a plant.


since spiritual experiences are explicitly personal (as is all experience) language is an imperfect tool to share internal experiences. in my experience, cannabis is a plant with personal spiritual properties (which has been used this way for thousands of years)that help my experience of consciousness connect to the overreaching transcendence of all reality. this is my definition of spirituality, and cannabis positively affects this and is therefore holy and a sacrament. I am part of current communities where this plant is considered a sacrament and used as such.

sucks you don't experience reality on that level, but you should have explained why you don't believe it is a sacrament, or stated that you don't agree with my spiritual views, but laughing at that statement which is absolutely true to me and many others is just confusing.

i hope more people experience the sacramental properties of cannabis as well as the other entheogens.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19358347 - 01/02/14 12:50 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

That might be the longest response to a graemlin I've ever seen


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Pureless]
    #19358435 - 01/02/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

All he really had to say was "I like to get high, dude."  That's certainly all I got from his post.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Kodos]
    #19358501 - 01/02/14 01:18 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Kodos said:
sorry if that statement is too complicated for you to understand, but if you need it explained:




I don't. I'm able to recognize a dumb-ass post when I see it.

Yours was. So is the one I'm responding to here.

There's nothing sacred about it. Claiming there is, is just too dumb for words.

Edit: It's a fucking plant.

"Sacred"

:whatever:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Enlil]
    #19358506 - 01/02/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Enlil said:
All he really had to say was "I like to get high, dude."  That's certainly all I got from his post.




Exactly. That was the gist of it.


"Sacred"  :lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19358566 - 01/02/14 01:30 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Hey now...he could be a shaman.


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Pureless]
    #19358805 - 01/02/14 02:21 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Penises are 'sacred' in Asia. In a lot of Asian countries the oldest temples you can find have giant statues of penises, penises hovering above you built into the architecture, paintings of penises every which way you turn. the monks took vows of celibacy as young as six years old so I'm assuming this is where their appreciation for penis originates (they have not been exposed to the vagina), as we all know the miracle of childbirth actually is not a miracle at all.

The Holy Vagina is sacred in my temple, but we also like to get high so I guess weed is sacred too. :jah:


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: D.M.T]
    #19360563 - 01/02/14 08:21 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

hash oil is what they used to annoint people in jesus times


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Konyap]
    #19360567 - 01/02/14 08:22 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

they didn't use fucking ash lol


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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Konyap]
    #19360587 - 01/02/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Illyabo said:
they didn't use fucking ash lol





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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Pureless]
    #19361956 - 01/03/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Pureless said:
That might be the longest strongest response to a graemlin I've ever seen




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Re: Texas Deputy Killed in Dawn No-Knock Drug Raid [Re: Konyap]
    #19361959 - 01/03/14 03:02 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Illyabo said:
they didn't use fucking ash lol







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:rave::rave::rave: I dropped a trance track "Peace Love & Trance": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4uQBM-mRYU ; :raver2::raver2::raver2::raveface:


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