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I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now....
    #19323570 - 12/24/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

suffice to say, i have some 4-aco-dmt, which is very close to psilocybin in duration and effect...that's why I post here because it is a pro-drug for psilocin, the main active ingredient in mushrooms, and most active trippers post here.

i'm in a no-man's land--part of me says go for it, another part says wait....i really want to but I fear the feeling tomorrow, when the glow is gone and i'll be bored and possible a bit depressed. 

What's a person to do?


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323578 - 12/24/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Go for it  :vibin:


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323580 - 12/24/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take 50mg and don't look back


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323587 - 12/24/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bump 10mg and have a few beers!:thumbup::heart::mushroom2:
Ive NEVER experienced depression from psilocin/psilocybin or from 4-ACO-DMT. :shrug: If thats really a concern...


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: Zombi3]
    #19323604 - 12/24/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bump 10mg and have a few beers!:thumbup::heart::mushroom2:
Ive NEVER experienced depression from psilocin/psilocybin or from 4-ACO-DMT. :shrug: If thats really a concern...



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Zombi3 said:
Bump 10mg and have a few beers!:thumbup::heart::mushroom2:
Ive NEVER experienced depression from psilocin/psilocybin or from 4-ACO-DMT. :shrug: If thats really a concern...





Acutally it is the sober state of mind that reminds me I am a man.  This was mentioned in The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge' when Carlos first tripped on mescaline and then he told Don Juan, after he awoke from sleeping the trip off, that he had forgotten he was a man, and he found that very disconcerting or depressing.  Don Juan just told him "You are beginning to learn"

I know exactly what he meant. 

As for 50mg, i did possibly 70 or 80 on top of 2c-e, and the trip was....all i can say was, i passed out and had a visionary experience for what seems to be several hours, and i can't lose control so probably a 25 is the most i can tolerate without a trip guide.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: Zombi3]
    #19323629 - 12/24/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was always of the philosophy that if ever there was a doubt of whether or not to trip, then don't trip. :shrug:
I've never tried 4-aco-dmt before, but there is always tomorrow.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19323651 - 12/24/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't taken that much yet.  The most I've done was 30 mgs protentiated with 120mgs harmala alkaloids.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19323661 - 12/24/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I was always of the philosophy that if ever there was a doubt of whether or not to trip, then don't trip. :shrug:
I've never tried 4-aco-dmt before, but there is always tomorrow.




absolutely right on the money! 

I've noticed that my best experiences seemed to come out of the spur of the moment.....it was an overwhelming urge to trip.

Usually this occurs late at night for me.  Why?  And I've noticed my more unpleasant experiences were forced trips that started early in the day.

And I'm not a rookie to tripping.  I've taken an honest to god 900ug trip on acid (1970's)


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323689 - 12/24/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You know he made up everything in The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge'?  All his books were made up .. Fiction

Anyway.... Listen to your inner voice.... If you have questions, don't trip

Wait till you are ready and sure

Never go wrong

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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: HarryL]
    #19323697 - 12/24/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Actually I heard that he made the stuff up, but that he had tripped a few times.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: Zombi3]
    #19323834 - 12/24/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you are fearful of tripping because you might have to do something later, steer clear. But if you have nothing planned, and you don't mind having a little hangover (it really isn't that bad) tomorrow, go for it man and be positive! You will have a wonderful time!


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19324154 - 12/25/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Even though I have the mood....and the head....and i'm ready.....i still want to wait another day.  Why?  Because I just moved, and my room isn't perfectly arranged, my drums aren't set up to play, and there are a few things to tidy up.  I feel it would be better to arrange all these things, have all my affairs in order and be relaxed for my trip.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19324192 - 12/25/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that stuff would bug me. It took me a few tries with aya to realize how heavily those things weigh on you. Little things like the way my environment was and how I felt about it was literally making me vomit the dose. I had to clean up, move some stuff around, basically make it so I had nothing else to possibly be on my mind. No distractions, and that's the best way really. No point in having the magic if you're not truly there to observe it.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19324234 - 12/25/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Couldn't have stated it better myself.  That is EXACTLY what I meant.  I want the environment and my state of mind to be 'clean' when I trip.  No loose ends to tie up, nothing that I would regret not preparing.


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19324247 - 12/25/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

By the way, mescaline and 2C-E are absolutely the worst psychedelics to not be prepared for.  Because when I do them, its like, everyting has to be ultra-clean--I notice every speck of dirt in the bathroom, etc.  It's almost like they make you OCD.  Or at least those things make me OCD to the point that I want perfection.  And when everything is in that 'perfect' state, I can trip right out of my little fucking mind into the next universe and not be a bit anxious.  :awesomenod:


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Re: I'm at a loss whether or not to trip right now.... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19324482 - 12/25/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Go into more detail why you feel depressed. Maybe we can help you. Is it like 'man that was so fun but now it's gone'?


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