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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: SunnyD]
    #19269577 - 12/13/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why are you so concerned about time dilation?


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19269606 - 12/13/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because, how can i have intense visuals but not have time dilation. 


and at the time i was tripping hard, a  bunch of little things brought out anger...

im not gonna do any pyche for a for awhile


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: SunnyD]
    #19269712 - 12/13/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Its best to go into a trip with no expectations,and whatever happens just go with it.  If things ever start to get Dark or uncomfortable, smile and tell yourself your having an amazing time. More often than not you can actually convince yourself that you are.

Feel you on the iPod though.  It sucks so bad not being able to find something while tripping, and then that's all you can think about:frown:


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #19269774 - 12/13/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Its best to go into a trip with no expectations,and whatever happens just go with it.  If things ever start to get Dark or uncomfortable, smile and tell yourself your having an amazing time. More often than not you can actually convince yourself that you are.

Feel you on the iPod though.  It sucks so bad not being able to find something while tripping, and then that's all you can think about:(




I'm not sure convincing yourself you are having a 'good' time is the best course of action. You can always lie to yourself to get out of a number of different situations, but that doesn't really do much good in the end. Sit through the darkness, the pain, the fear. Feel it, embrace the hurt... Eventually it will come to pass.

OP when you ask why you had a bad trip you are asking a very complicated question. Consider the ipod situation... You were looking for it and you couldn't find it... That made you angry right? Now consider the fact that logically there isn't much of a reason why not being able to find your ipod should be that infuriating and confusing. So... Something about not being able to find SOMETHING made you angry and confused.

Are you perhaps looking for something when you trip? Or maybe looking for something out of life in general that you can't find? I'm not saying this is the case but these are questions worth asking yourself if you want to get anywhere remotely close to the answer of why you had a bad experience.


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: elgatogordo]
    #19270386 - 12/13/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP, you need to calm the fuck down.  Don't freak out if something you want doesn't happen.  You probably didn't even get acid, just some RC.  You need to go into trips expecting nothing.


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19270414 - 12/13/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: Magicman69]
    #19270426 - 12/13/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think the OP finally got the visuals he was looking for, it can blow your mind the first time LSD kicks you ass.  :dawerp:


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: elgatogordo]
    #19270878 - 12/13/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Kief Ledger said:
Its best to go into a trip with no expectations,and whatever happens just go with it.  If things ever start to get Dark or uncomfortable, smile and tell yourself your having an amazing time. More often than not you can actually convince yourself that you are.

Feel you on the iPod though.  It sucks so bad not being able to find something while tripping, and then that's all you can think about:(




I'm not sure convincing yourself you are having a 'good' time is the best course of action. You can always lie to yourself to get out of a number of different situations, but that doesn't really do much good in the end. Sit through the darkness, the pain, the fear. Feel it, embrace the hurt... Eventually it will come to pass.

OP when you ask why you had a bad trip you are asking a very complicated question. Consider the ipod situation... You were looking for it and you couldn't find it... That made you angry right? Now consider the fact that logically there isn't much of a reason why not being able to find your ipod should be that infuriating and confusing. So... Something about not being able to find SOMETHING made you angry and confused.

Are you perhaps looking for something when you trip? Or maybe looking for something out of life in general that you can't find? I'm not saying this is the case but these are questions worth asking yourself if you want to get anywhere remotely close to the answer of why you had a bad experience.




This is exactly what I was thinking. :thumbup:

Also OP, time dilation really isn't important. Don't go into a trip expecting anything. You can't control how a psychedelic is going to effect you and there's no need to feel angry if a trip doesn't work out exactly as you'd imagined. You just need to sit back, relax, float downstream and enjoy the ride.

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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: SunnyD]
    #19271599 - 12/13/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't always experience time dilation.  Psychedelics certainly alter our perception of time.  I have found that I either experience time dilation or time contraction. There have been times when the trip went by extremely fast for me and others when the clock stands still.  As for the trip duration, 6 hours seems way short for LSD.  Maybe you have an extremely high metabolism, but most people say LSD lasts 8-12 hours. Sorry to hear about your bummer trip, but it happens to all of us.  It sort of comes with the territory if you know what I mean. :peace:


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19271640 - 12/13/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You think frustration over lacking visuals and difficulty finding your ipod is a bad trip? You're going to fucking hurt yourself one day and that day is going to live with you forever. Grow up


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19271661 - 12/13/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I want to know exactly what it was that you took. Perhaps one of the Lysergamides that have been going around recently. LSZ has been characterized by some as an emptyish experience even in higher doses. I have no experience with it, though.

What did the blotter look like? It should be fairly easy to find a match.

I cant believe you to 7 hits and it left you felling irritable. That just seems odd to me.


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: cannabinated]
    #19272228 - 12/13/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I want to know exactly what it was that you took. Perhaps one of the Lysergamides that have been going around recently. LSZ has been characterized by some as an emptyish experience even in higher doses. I have no experience with it, though.

What did the blotter look like? It should be fairly easy to find a match.

I cant believe you to 7 hits and it left you felling irritable. That just seems odd to me.





I think the LSZ that is out there is dosed at 150ug per hit, 7 of them would pretty much destroy your ego, and ability to communicate(type in this forum)


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: afrogus]
    #19272608 - 12/13/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You think frustration over lacking visuals and difficulty finding your ipod is a bad trip? You're going to fucking hurt yourself one day and that day is going to live with you forever. Grow up




I completely agree and that can not be stressed enough. The last big trip that I had was fairly traumatizing. I was enjoying myself at first (REALLY enjoying myself) but it ended up leaving me emotionally torn. I experienced what had felt like the compounding of all human suffering that has ever taken place (mainly focused on images of war and murder). It sounds terrible, but I still wouldn't classify it as a bad trip. I was reduced to tears during the experience but it gave me more drive to be active about injustice. Now I seem to look back on it as a necessary experience, though it's sad how easy it is to fall back into complacency sometimes. I digress.

The point I'm trying to make is that at the time it was a truly difficult and painful experience that could not have been anticipated at all. Mind you,that was only on 2.5 grams of PE and 120mg MDMA. Imagine you getting your hands on some stronger acid and taking 7 hits! or if they had been potent nbome tabs!(not that it would likely kill you.) I don't want to annoy or offend you as I trust that you are familiar with your material but make sure you always know what you've got. If you're unsure if your tabs are lucy or not, swallow them directly as nbomes aren't orally active.

Maybe its just me but the chemicals you are working with aren't just there to serve you for entertainment purposes, if you treat em that way your bound to have a bad time.

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I think the LSZ that is out there is dosed at 150ug per hit, 7 of them would pretty much destroy your ego, and ability to communicate(type in this forum)




Yeah I thought that after I posted but many people report similar experiences to  this

You usually smoke cannabis throughout your trips I assume? that would have a lot to do with time dilation.

You also are probably building a tolerance if you took 5 hits last weekend.


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #19272704 - 12/13/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, you need to calm the fuck down.  Don't freak out if something you want doesn't happen.  You probably didn't even get acid, just some RC.  You need to go into trips expecting nothing.



Absolutely agree. This guy is expecting WAY too much. I mean, psychedelics are insanely intense, but expectations to the degree he is taking them are what's causing the agitation. I mean it with all due respect, but a little growing up or maturity is needed.

Second, it's a lot like you are having a problem with "going through the motions". You take the LSD (if that's even what you got), then you think "Well last time I had this and this" and you're trying to play out moments of the past that are long gone. Embrace the trip you're taking now and let it be it's own thing. Every trip in my experience is DRASTICALLY different than the last. I don't understand why you keep mentioning what should or shouldn't happen. If you took 7 hits of even halfway decent LSD, you wouldn't be disappointed but possibly begging for sobriety. 5 hits of the shit I got was enough to make me nervous during the come up, and I've done my fair share of psychedelics. I don't see how 7 hits is disappointing you. I'm reluctant to even dare take 7 of these man. I don't think you got Lucy, or maybe you got some weak Lucy. The main problem though, is your mind.

I can't imagine tripping with someone who is rambling on about how "This, this and this isn't happening" and asking why certain visuals aren't happening. Shit, as intense as the visuals you're seeking are, they are merely background effects compared to the mind fuck. Go into trips with a new attitude and get rid of those expectations, if you can't help it, maybe psychedelics aren't for you. :shrug:


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: SunnyD]
    #19272765 - 12/13/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also at this point sense of time was fucked up but i wasnt having time dilation AT ALL! and that triggered another pychotic fit... i kept getting so pissed offf. Pretty much then til now have been a shitty pissed mood......   





It's like you are trying to dictate what the trip is supposed to be about.  That's not how it works.

Control freaks usually hate psychedelics, and you are being control freaky about it, getting pissed when the experience isn't bending to your will.

This is the opposite of what it's supposed to be about.  Tripping is kinda like inviting over some new crazy guests, but then you're getting pissed at them when they want to go swimming and then dancing rather than play darts all night.  It's not all about you, you're there to interact with the guest you brought into your mental home, not force it to bend to your will and then get angry when nobody is having a good time.


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: dontthinkso]
    #19273574 - 12/14/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

IMO the experience has way more to do with your state of mind and setting than the dose.  I've had times during trips where I overthought it and absolutely killed the open eye visual aspect of it.  During those times I usually sit and meditate and explore my mind.  These chemicals shouldn't be classified as "drugs". They're tools to explore your own mind.  It's not all bells and whistles sometimes :shrug:
Didn't Grof find out that certain people with obsessive tendencies usually take alot more LSD to have a breakthrough experience?


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19274332 - 12/14/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It was just a bad trip, defintly no where near the worst. And yes i feel the lsd for around 12 hours. but the first 6 is what i would consider tripping.
And yes i will never exspect anything anymore ill just let it flow....

Thank you guys! :laugh:



Blotter is also completly tasteless no numbing or nothing. Im sure its just 50ug hits weak hits but 3+ is serious tripping 7 was intense!


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: SunnyD]
    #19322982 - 12/24/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

7 hits when i took that dose this one time had aliens abducting me and they were playing a video camera of what i was actually seeing while i was being disected like a matrix effect... i had a tolerance of 4 tabs 5 days before


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Re: Just took 7 hits of L [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323058 - 12/24/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think I've ever experienced time dilation...

I go into trips expecting nothing. Only then can I really analyze the experience for what it was and not what I was or wasn't expecting.


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