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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: topdog82]
#19365952 - 01/03/14 09:39 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I actually never got sick once being a vegetarian for five years i did get sick when i started meat again i mostly ate chicken until st patty's day i tried some corned beef and everyone else was fine but i had the worst sickness and constant vomit for like 14 hours after. OP. Vegetarian is a much healthier diet as long as you eat the right foods which isn't hard, I was also small even after i ate meat it took me till my metabolism slowed down like 6 years later to finally gain weight and mass .
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: topdog82]
#19366178 - 01/03/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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topdog82 said: Could you please send me the link for that picture?
i didnt read this thread really at all.
but dude.
the source is in the bottom right of the pic.
come on now.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: k00laid]
#19366265 - 01/03/14 11:03 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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There's a lot in this thread i didn't read but my 2cents
I never got sick from a vegetarian diet. If I'm transitioning and have been eating a lot of meat i find that i get super gassy for a few days- but that's from the heavy increase of dietary fiber and dissipates within a few days.
I eat mainly fruits and veggies now, and with protein shakes am able to keep my weight up around 190lbs. If I don't take those shakes i miss out on a lot of energy which equates to work out time and my weight drops to about 170lbs.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19369297 - 01/04/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Vegans should supplement b vitamins, iron , protein and creatine .
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19369345 - 01/04/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Vegans should supplement b vitamins, iron , protein and creatine .
As long as one is eating adequate calories from whole foods it is not necessary. B12 is the crucial one in my experience because it is filtered out of the water. Meat eaters should supplement b12 as well.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: thelanzii]
#19380010 - 01/06/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nemmies said:
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Moonshoe said: Vegans should supplement b vitamins, iron , protein and creatine .
As long as one is eating adequate calories from whole foods it is not necessary. B12 is the crucial one in my experience because it is filtered out of the water. Meat eaters should supplement b12 as well.
But isnt supplementing kind of missing the point here? Supplements arent nearly as good as the original source? Ie eating fish is better than supplementing with omega 3's. Please correct me if i am wrong. This is what my physio tescher told me
Anyways, I have been staying home all break with the family. Meditating, doing lots of kratom and weed. In that time we have been eating out a lot, and I have got the chance to try duck. I ate chicken, turkey. I had grass fed beef. Pork. some fancy fish, and I tried venison last night at a buddies house Seems silly to mention i ate chicken and turkey but i havent had any meats in years now Anyways, duck is awesome. So is fish. Duck is like an upgraded better tasting chicken But at this point i have decided to be pescatarian. If i am going to kill animals it might as well be the healthiest meats and the stupidest animals (fish i would say are a lower level of conciousness than chickens) Quinoa i realized supplements protien and tyrosine and 5htp. Good stuff really I also thought i would update that i played footba with my brother and i was much more agile and physically capable. Obviously he could tackle me, but that didnt matter since i was more agile. In addition, heavy quinoa, eggs, veggies, fruits, and tryin some meats here and there have left me with even more muscle. My chest is something ladies could die for. Id post pics but i like the anonymity when posting on the shroomery. At this point i would say that i could definately overpower physically a lot of my non-vegatarian friends So here are my inquiries: 1) If anyone has any info on how to be pescatarian more sustainable please lemme kno. As moonshoe said, soy is not environmentally friendly. This is something people would know without some research. Are freshwater fish more environmentally friendly? Could i buy fish that lived full wild lives and not unethically slaughtered? And are there any tips tp avoid mercury? Any tips and knowledge is welcome 2) And what about eggs? Are eggs environmentally friendly? 3) would you people agree that killing a fish is less ethically questionable than land animals? EDIT: fuck i have been getting really big. I am tempted to post a pic. I think i have reached my peak. At this point i would have to take creatine and eat red meats and lift weights to get bigger. Truly amazing how much i can grow just with gym twice a week, tons of body weight excercises and intense yoga. Anyone out these who is tryna get super in shape, you can do it!
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thelanzii

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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: topdog82]
#19380221 - 01/06/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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you did not read my post. People who eat meat should supplement b12 as well as people who do not.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: thelanzii]
#19380252 - 01/06/14 11:57 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nemmies said: you did not read my post. People who eat meat should supplement b12 as well as people who do not.
I did read your post. I already take a multivitamin which contains b12 every morning
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: thelanzii]
#19380350 - 01/07/14 12:30 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Nemmies said: you did not read my post. People who eat meat should supplement b12 as well as people who do not.
Why is that? There's plenty of B12 in meat sources. It's highest in oysters, clams, and other shellfish. B12 on the other hand, does not exist at all in plant sources.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Crystal G]
#19380357 - 01/07/14 12:33 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I got some meat y'all can munch on.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: theRAPeutic]
#19380372 - 01/07/14 12:38 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Oh yeah, you wanna put it in your mouth? Let the juices flow over your tongue??
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm
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thelanzii

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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Crystal G]
#19380614 - 01/07/14 01:46 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Nemmies said: you did not read my post. People who eat meat should supplement b12 as well as people who do not.
Why is that? There's plenty of B12 in meat sources. It's highest in oysters, clams, and other shellfish. B12 on the other hand, does not exist at all in plant sources.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Tycoda]
#19380713 - 01/07/14 02:31 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Tycoda said: Articles to corroborate the potential dangers of vegetarainism and veganism:
http://www.humantruth.info/vegetarianism.html
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1627S.full
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/vegpage.html
Thanks for posting the articles, of which only one appears to be a peer-reviewed study. The other two are monographs which the authors did admittedly put some effort into, but they did not stand the test of peer review. More importantly, though, the risks with 'vegetarianism' pointed out in the articles only apply to a vegan diet (interestingly, only the peer-reviewed article is explicitly clear on this!) I asked you before to come up with support for your claim that a vegetarian diet is unhealthy, but it seems that you simply disregard the difference between both. In addition, even in a vegan diet, it's perfectly doable to supplement the deficient nutrients.
Now that you've actually done a teensy-weensy bit of research, are you starting to see how nonsensical your previous claim was that a vegetarian diet is unhealthy?
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: koraks]
#19380718 - 01/07/14 02:34 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Regardless, vegetarians are weeping pussies who miss out on one of the greatest epicurean indulgences possible in life.
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Vegetarians tend to have better health, less illness, and a most positive mental and emotional state, with a more spiritual mindset and mental clarity.
However, they also tend to be skinny, less muscular, less strong, not as good in a fight, and smaller.
I know because I have been both.
When I was vegetarian I felt more spiritual, like a Hindu or Buddhist.
However, I am a martial artist and a body builder, and for that I need meat and lots of it.
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19382116 - 01/07/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Vegetarians tend to have better health, less illness, and a most positive mental and emotional state, with a more spiritual mindset and mental clarity.
However, they also tend to be skinny, less muscular, less strong, not as good in a fight, and smaller.
I know because I have been both.
When I was vegetarian I felt more spiritual, like a Hindu or Buddhist.
However, I am a martial artist and a body builder, and for that I need meat and lots of it.
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Broad generalization relying totally on an individuals dedication to training and type of training
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Re: Is eating meat healthier? [Re: thelanzii]
#19382289 - 01/07/14 12:46 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Nemmies said:
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Moonshoe said: Vegetarians tend to have better health, less illness, and a most positive mental and emotional state, with a more spiritual mindset and mental clarity.
However, they also tend to be skinny, less muscular, less strong, not as good in a fight, and smaller.
I know because I have been both.
When I was vegetarian I felt more spiritual, like a Hindu or Buddhist.
However, I am a martial artist and a body builder, and for that I need meat and lots of it.
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Broad generalization relying totally on an individuals dedication to training and type of training
Yes, but generally speaking vegetarianism and veganism goes along with a health conscious and ethical mindset, a compassion for other living things and perhaps a spiritual sentiment,
while eating meat provides lots of protein and creatine and iron and b vitamins and calories and fat that make it easier for the body to grow large and strong.
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