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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319100 - 12/23/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here, this is what they are talking about, anti-cartesianism:

See the infinite regression necessary to sustain the idea of self?
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319113 - 12/23/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Instead of thinking you are looking at a picture inside your head, you just look at the picture with the eyes.
Simple really, but complicated if you're looking from self.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319157 - 12/23/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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but the man in my head pissis and shits alot nastier shit than me physical self. Whattoyado?
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319178 - 12/23/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no man in that head, ethereal or otherwise, it's an illusion.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319197 - 12/23/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wish
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319233 - 12/24/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you really?
All you have to do is focus and look to see through it.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319265 - 12/24/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He is a silly bitxh with a mouthful of lasagna. I am looking through reality. I see it.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319271 - 12/24/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't believe you.
Who is looking?
Does you exist?
If so then how, if not then why?
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319283 - 12/24/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No I focking exist because something this conscious to eating lasagna on a slightly boozesick stomach couldn't happen without divine inspiratioon.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319288 - 12/24/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You exist, but you doesn't exist.
Figure that out.
Look, all you have to do is focus on the question of what is this "I" thing is pointing at really, toss it around in your head, question it. Try to find it.
No one can do it for you, you have to do the looking from the point beyond self.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319311 - 12/24/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ARRGH! Itsso frustrating tho! Like I can see that inner peace but it doesn't have anything to do with this physical body. Are you encouraging suicide?
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319325 - 12/24/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol, not physical suicide, but suicide of the self. If you are being the self then it might feel that way until you get beyond it. You have to just jump in. If you start feeling scared it is actually good and your making progress and are looking in the right place.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19319353 - 12/24/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Naw not scared, just nauseaus fucking vodka
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19319363 - 12/24/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try Looking at it again when you're sober.
Satori does feel a bit disorienting, but if you're drinking it probably wont work.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19320610 - 12/24/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teknix said: You're not enlightened, the self is never enlightened, that's the whole idea.
ROFL.
People claiming they are enlightened are telling lies.
"Look at me, I'm enlightened!" lol.
"I" don't have a "self". For the words we use make this difficult because they typically refer to the ego. "I" do not have an I, as I no longer abide in duality conciousness. It seems like a paradox until you go through it and stop having a "self" I suppose.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix] 1
#19320637 - 12/24/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So it has to do with desire for other people to be enlightened? Would you even go as far as to say that you are somewhat dissatisfied with the world as it stands and this causes an emotional response?
I don't see how someone can be simultaneously alive and enlightened. I mean, what is the point?
That desire is for a bodhisattva, but you guys aren't even talking about enlightenment, you are talking about anatta, which is only a part of enlightenment.
Buddhist theology and bodisattva is a bag of rocks. You have to let go of that. It ties up the thinking like the gordian knot. The only approach to untangle it is like Alexander and slice in in twain. The whole knot itself is incinerated with all your other beliefs and opinions and everything else that makes you you. Its not glamorous. Like I said no one wants or actually seeks enlightenment. They seek some cosmic heaven on Earth mysticism and glamorize the path to becoming enlightened like the quest after the holy grail.
But its not like that. In the Gita Arjuna becomes enlightened when Krishna shows him the truth. He didn't want to launch that war that would destroy him and kill his family, but it was like the universe took a dump on him. That's what enlightenment is, not glamourous at all. If you want to be a mystic than be a mystic and get mystical experiences, I've had a few they're great, but thats not what enlightenment is. Enlightenment is when you become a truth realized being.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19320645 - 12/24/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure...
Try learning Asian languages; they define situations that happen, not the person included.
"The glass of water has dropped!" "you dropped the glass of water"
Have fun being enlightened, somebody has to be
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19320747 - 12/24/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: Buddhist theology and bodisattva is a bag of rocks. You have to let go of that. It ties up the thinking like the gordian knot. The only approach to untangle it is like Alexander and slice in in twain. The whole knot itself is incinerated with all your other beliefs and opinions and everything else that makes you you. Its not glamorous. Like I said no one wants or actually seeks enlightenment. They seek some cosmic heaven on Earth mysticism and glamorize the path to becoming enlightened like the quest after the holy grail.
But its not like that. In the Gita Arjuna becomes enlightened when Krishna shows him the truth. He didn't want to launch that war that would destroy him and kill his family, but it was like the universe took a dump on him. That's what enlightenment is, not glamourous at all. If you want to be a mystic than be a mystic and get mystical experiences, I've had a few they're great, but thats not what enlightenment is. Enlightenment is when you become a truth realized being.
Krishna is a bag of rocks as well, don't grasp at it. The only reason you think it has anything to do with Krishna is because that is what you were led to believe, so when it happened you naturally think that was the cause, but it isn't.
Why do you refer to yourself as Buddha if it has no meaning? lol . . .
These are all just process pointing at the same truth, pointers is all they are, not the truth.
The problem isn't with language, it is with your articulation.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19320785 - 12/24/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, and NO, you are not enlightened, even in some sort of paradox of language, ever.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19320792 - 12/24/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, yes, krishna is a bag of rocks as well, I'm happy you see that. There is nothing but poor ways for me to articulate these concepts but words like buddha and krishna consciousness are the best adjectives I can use. I'm sure Prince Siddartha had the same problem but was perhaps better spoken or more articulate. The real lesson Siddartha can teach is that he became enlightened on his own and everyone does it by themselves. Kindly.
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