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whitelights
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#19324571 - 12/25/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: Can anyone tell me what a gram of 90% mescaline HCL with the remaining 10% being alkaloids would do to someone effects wise
im pretty sure you can overdose on mescaline, im not sure if 1 gram is close tot hat ceiling. somebody should look into that.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: starfire_xes]
#19324626 - 12/25/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Im sure that over 500mg of pure mescaline, except for the come-up, the peak will be almost identical to LSD. Quote:
The Doobie Dude said: Only longer im guessing and what type of dose of lsd are we talking?
I can only speculate on the actual dosage, but I'm guessing a foot of bridge is 250mg of mescaline.....and the equivalent is about 75 mics of acid. But because of the dose-response curve of mescaline, i'd say that 500mg of pure mescaline, or 2 feet of bridge, would conservastively be 200ug of acid. And that isn't exactly a light trip. 
Err are you sure about that? 75ug is nothing and 200ug is one good hit.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: hmmn]
#19324693 - 12/25/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmn said: I'd like to suggest that you consult other resources on the web to determine the maximum safe dose of mescaline. Mescaline has far less headroom than some other psychedelics. The dose you're contemplating may be dangerous.
And comparing a dose of LSD to mescaline is dumb.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19324763 - 12/25/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Err are you sure about that? 75ug is nothing and 200ug is one good hit.
Dude, threshold for LSD is like 25ug. You're lucky if the hits you get are 75ug. 200ug is a STRONG experience where as 75ug is "one good hit".
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: phaded]
#19324789 - 12/25/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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phaded said:
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Err are you sure about that? 75ug is nothing and 200ug is one good hit.
Dude, threshold for LSD is like 25ug. You're lucky if the hits you get are 75ug. 200ug is a STRONG experience where as 75ug is "one good hit".
No? In the 70s the "sunshine" blotter was 400ug and nowadays the hits are about 150ug...
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: hmmn]
#19324887 - 12/25/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmn said: I'd like to suggest that you consult other resources on the web to determine the maximum safe dose of mescaline. Mescaline has far less headroom than some other psychedelics. The dose you're contemplating may be dangerous.
Can things actually get dangerous on mescaline, even with high doses?
I feel like with all the euphoria it would be almost impossible to have a bad time
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
#19324893 - 12/25/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How hard you wanna trip?
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19324921 - 12/25/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: How hard you wanna trip?
I want to trip harder than I did before....my first time was basically all mental....it just just like i was a really strong philosopher, kept coming up with one realization after another
I had some visuals but not much
I want to get to ATLEAST level 3, maybe 4
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
#19324926 - 12/25/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you properly prepare 2 feet of bridgesii, I highly doubt you will be left wanting.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19324935 - 12/25/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: If you properly prepare 2 feet of bridgesii, I highly doubt you will be left wanting.
How far do you think 2 feet will get me?
And how would you recommend preparing it? Would boiling it into a drink be the most efficient?
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19324940 - 12/25/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescaline has an ld50 of 132mg pr kg in rats.. -wikipedia
-------------------- And thus begins the reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
#19324981 - 12/25/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmn said: I'd like to suggest that you consult other resources on the web to determine the maximum safe dose of mescaline. Mescaline has far less headroom than some other psychedelics. The dose you're contemplating may be dangerous.
Can things actually get dangerous on mescaline, even with high doses?
I feel like with all the euphoria it would be almost impossible to have a bad time
They can, yes - at least if combined with other drugs. I haven't been able to find any solid upper limit dosage information for mescaline, though; there is one reference of Jonathon Ott stating 1000mg as the maximum safe dose. I have one trip report of ~900 mg that went well: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=399615
Taking large doses of mescaline while on pharmaceuticals or some herbal products could be very dangerous; other psychedelics have known dangerous interactions with drugs such as Lithium and various MAOIs. Beyond that...I'd guess that 1000mg is safe, but have no way of knowing. It's not like LSD, where a quick search turns of hundreds of extremely high dose case reports.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19324988 - 12/25/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Err are you sure about that? 75ug is nothing and 200ug is one good hit.
Dude, threshold for LSD is like 25ug. You're lucky if the hits you get are 75ug. 200ug is a STRONG experience where as 75ug is "one good hit".
No? In the 70s the "sunshine" blotter was 400ug and nowadays the hits are about 150ug...
Orange sunshine was a little less than 300mics. Go look at different reports of ug doses in prints and show me all the regular 150 mic hits. There aren't any.
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: phaded]
#19324995 - 12/25/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Orange sunshine was not LSD
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: hmmn]
#19324999 - 12/25/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmn said: I'd like to suggest that you consult other resources on the web to determine the maximum safe dose of mescaline. Mescaline has far less headroom than some other psychedelics. The dose you're contemplating may be dangerous.
Can things actually get dangerous on mescaline, even with high doses?
I feel like with all the euphoria it would be almost impossible to have a bad time
They can, yes - at least if combined with other drugs. I haven't been able to find any solid upper limit dosage information for mescaline, though; there is one reference of Jonathon Ott stating 1000mg as the maximum safe dose. I have one trip report of ~900 mg that went well: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=399615
Taking large doses of mescaline while on pharmaceuticals or some herbal products could be very dangerous; other psychedelics have known dangerous interactions with drugs such as Lithium and various MAOIs. Beyond that...I'd guess that 1000mg is safe, but have no way of knowing. It's not like LSD, where a quick search turns of hundreds of extremely high dose case reports.
Yea I don't plan on taking any other drugs in combination with it. And i dont think ill get that much...probably 2ft of bridgessi at once is what ill do. The first time i did it, I ate one foot over the course of an hour
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19325067 - 12/25/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: How hard you wanna trip?
A very very high level 4 or low level 5
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#19325095 - 12/25/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eat moar
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19325132 - 12/25/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1 gram of mescaline wont get me to a solid level 4 for real
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: phaded]
#19325280 - 12/25/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Err are you sure about that? 75ug is nothing and 200ug is one good hit.
Dude, threshold for LSD is like 25ug. You're lucky if the hits you get are 75ug. 200ug is a STRONG experience where as 75ug is "one good hit".
I really wish there was a way to know how strong my LSD is. But this sounds about right nowadays from what I hear. Though I think the assessment on 200ug being strong is fairly subjective. Definitely not one hit for an average tab though
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: phaded]
#19325459 - 12/25/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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phaded said:
Orange sunshine was a little less than 300mics. Go look at different reports of ug doses in prints and show me all the regular 150 mic hits. There aren't any.
Well of you can show me where I can see this information I would love to look at it. It's just that I've heard the 150ug figure over and over, mainly on these forums, so if you prove me wrong then I want to learn.
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