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How hard can you really trip on mescaline?
    #19320438 - 12/24/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive only done mescaline once and had a pretty decent trip. Lots of thinking, aztec patterns, euphoria, etc. But nothing crazy.

How intense can mescaline trips actually get? I mean you can only stomach so much cactus sludge at a time

What are the strongest trips you have had on mescaline? can you describe them?

How should mescaline be consumed for maximum effect? When I did it, i ate the cactus over the period of 45min-1hr. Im thinking i will make a stew and drink it all at once. Will that make it more intense?


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
    #19320493 - 12/24/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I heard you can boil it down to a tar. I think  that would make it easier to ingest more of it.


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19321200 - 12/24/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There are some crazy reports of cactus breakthroughs on dmtnexus. I haven't been that far with mescaline yet personally, but yeah you can ingest more alkaloids by making a tar instead of tea. OR dose mescaline HCL in which case the sky is the limit for how intense the trip will be
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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: Acidreamer]
    #19321214 - 12/24/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Read some trip reports on Erowid! And get your hands on some pure crystal mescaline! Ohohoho!


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19321356 - 12/24/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Very very hard

High doses... Very powerful....


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
    #19321995 - 12/24/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i've only done it once and in a lowish dose, but i could tell it can take you to some deep places


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19322118 - 12/24/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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XLCaps said:
I heard you can boil it down to a tar. I think  that would make it easier to ingest more of it.




Whats the best tek for making tar? is it easy?

How hard can you go with drinking the boiled stuff?


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
    #19322192 - 12/24/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I once had a kid spin out a bunch of people when I squatting in nor-cal. It was green crystal and we did a couple thumb prints. Went to some really crazy places running around the red woods in the rain it lasted about two day. So as far as I'm concerned really, really hard. still one of the hardest trips I ever had and I've ate a lot of psychedelics.    :trippinbawelz:


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: TiN 42]
    #19322546 - 12/24/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mescaline, like other PEA psychedelics, i.e. 2C-E, 2C-P, etc, has a really steep dose response curve.  It takes a lot to get you over the threshold, but once over you can go up real fast.  The most bridge I ever did in a short time was 20" chewed over a couple hours, and I had shamans dancing on the walls, the plastic flowers on the bedstand having a dialogue with me, lightning bolts crashing through my body and in general a very strong acid like trip.  You can get as high on it as you can on any psychedelic--you just need to take enough.

My suggestion is to get 2 feet of bridge, take the dark green skin, put it in a blender and mix it with something to wash it down--rootbeer works best for me.  Get all of it down in 30 minutes and I'm positive that'll do 'er.  :awesomenod: :rockon:

my gut feeling is that a foot of bridge is about 250mg equivalent of mescaline hcl--in other words, just on the edge.  Because 14 to 18 inches is the sweet spot where you will be starting to trip heavily.


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19322568 - 12/24/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Mescaline, like other PEA psychedelics, i.e. 2C-E, 2C-P, etc, has a really steep dose response curve.  It takes a lot to get you over the threshold, but once over you can go up real fast.  The most bridge I ever did in a short time was 20" chewed over a couple hours, and I had shamans dancing on the walls, the plastic flowers on the bedstand having a dialogue with me, lightning bolts crashing through my body and in general a very strong acid like trip.  You can get as high on it as you can on any psychedelic--you just need to take enough.

My suggestion is to get 2 feet of bridge, take the dark green skin, put it in a blender and mix it with something to wash it down--rootbeer works best for me.  Get all of it down in 30 minutes and I'm positive that'll do 'er.  :awesomenod: :rockon:

my gut feeling is that a foot of bridge is about 250mg equivalent of mescaline hcl--in other words, just on the edge.  Because 14 to 18 inches is the sweet spot where you will be starting to trip heavily.



hmm okay makes sense. What if I just blended it all, and then put it on the stove for a few hours to boil, and then I squeeze all the juices and drink that stuff. I saw this is one way to do it which would be easier than eating


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
    #19323006 - 12/24/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is something I've wondered about as well, what the higher end of the mescaline experience is like.


I've had the least experience with mescaline out of the classics, and most of the trips were mild to the lower end of moderate, in intensity (relatively speaking).

The general demeanor and character of mescaline seems passive, calm, & gentle, the mind remains surprisingly clear and collected for how far out I feel...but I can totally feel, and see, how there would be a fine line there where the experience would start to become very immersive, heavy, & visionary. The tactile aspect, and the sensation/feeling in the body (body high), is rather engulfing and intense even in the amounts I've taken, can't imagine how overwhelming that would be with the higher doses.

And considering the duration, yea I can definitely see how mescaline would get "all up in there" with a proper dose.




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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: openmind]
    #19323621 - 12/24/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Can anyone tell me what a gram of 90% mescaline HCL with the remaining 10% being alkaloids would do to someone effects wise


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323630 - 12/24/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im sure that over 500mg of pure mescaline, except for the come-up, the peak will be almost identical to LSD.


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323665 - 12/24/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Only longer im guessing and what type of dose of lsd are we talking?


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323695 - 12/24/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im sure that over 500mg of pure mescaline, except for the come-up, the peak will be almost identical to LSD.
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Only longer im guessing and what type of dose of lsd are we talking?




I can only speculate on the actual dosage, but I'm guessing a foot of bridge is 250mg of mescaline.....and the equivalent is about 75 mics of acid.  But because of the dose-response curve of mescaline, i'd say that 500mg of pure mescaline, or 2 feet of bridge, would conservastively be 200ug of acid.  And that isn't exactly a light trip.  :grin:


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323703 - 12/24/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So 1 gram would roughly be 500-600ug including the dosage response curve


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323721 - 12/24/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So 1 gram would roughly be 500-600ug including the dosage response curve





If you actually took a gram of pure mescaline, i am positive you would be fucked up for at least 14 hours.


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19323735 - 12/24/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i am pondering the idea


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323775 - 12/24/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

1g of mescaline would be out of this world. 350mg of mescaline HCL was about equivalent to 150-200ug LSD for me. I personally wouldn't dose that high without a trip sitter unless you've had a lot of experience with debilitating doses :eek:


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Re: How hard can you really trip on mescaline? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #19323799 - 12/24/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'd like to suggest that you consult other resources on the web to determine the maximum safe dose of mescaline.  Mescaline has far less headroom than some other psychedelics.  The dose you're contemplating may be dangerous.


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