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Will this grow set up work?
    #19317207 - 12/23/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

im gonna post this on shroomery and growery to see what yall both think. So here are a few pictures of my set up and room. its basically a walk i n closet,(disregard the clothes im moving that.) and i have two T8 set up with 6500k indirect light for my mushrooms but also right now for veg when my plants sprout soon. I also have it pretty enclosed so there is no real Fresh air exchange from a outside source. I leave the bottom of my zip wall unzipped from time to time to let air circulate. I was thinking of putting some type of flexipipe to the window from the room to get some type of air in and out but the outside air is so cold that aint really worth it cuz then ill need a heater or some sorts.



Basically what im trying to figure out that i came across... is, can i grow canna and shrooms in the same grow room? it seems plausible but i came across a friend that grows canna and said that the soil has contams in it and the plant can host contams throughout its whole life cycle. Even the dirt itself has contams in it. So id rather grow my shrooms than canna. you think its absolutely that big of a problem?


here is another problem i came across. i planted a few seeds of some random plant and it got fuzzy cobweb mold around the soil. I read that you can prevent mold by sprinkling ground cinnemon in the soil. Which would help im assuming. But at the same time id rather not get my shrooms contam. I really wanna grow cannabis now that i have the opportunity and about 50 seeds. Yet i dont wanna ruin my shrooms. Any suggestions?

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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317220 - 12/23/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317230 - 12/23/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Eh, what does that link have to do with this.

Its foward thinking like this that really inspires me.

Im watching this

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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19317243 - 12/23/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

because i dont know whats in those cups, is that monotub ready for fruiting? i cant tell by the pic but it doesnt look its colonized and there is polyfil in it.

any room you grow boomers in just needs a fan that moves air in the room not pointed at the tub


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19317247 - 12/23/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Eh, what does that link have to do with this.

Its foward thinking like this that really inspires me.

Im watching this

:rockon:



My first inspiration that got me to think of this was, mushrooms give off co2 and take in oxygen, plants take in co2 and give off oxygen.. perfect relationship.. my two favorite things? dabs and fungi


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317258 - 12/23/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My first inspiration that got me to think of this was, mushrooms give off co2 and take in oxygen, plants take in co2 and give off oxygen.. perfect relationship.. my two favorite things? dabs and fungi






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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317270 - 12/23/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't put your mushroom fruiting chamber on the ground, elevate it a foot. also, i wouldn't even put it in the same room as you have plants - trichoderma is a beneficial part of growing plants if i am not mistaken, but not good for fungi cultivation.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19317285 - 12/23/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



looks like itll pin anytime soon to me.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317292 - 12/23/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't put your mushroom fruiting chamber on the ground, elevate it a foot. also, i wouldn't even put it in the same room as you have plants - trichoderma is a beneficial part of growing plants if i am not mistaken, but not good for fungi cultivation.




i really dont have anything to do that. Also, i have completely sterilized the whole room. any links on this trich benefit for plants?


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317300 - 12/23/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't put your mushroom fruiting chamber on the ground, elevate it a foot. also, i wouldn't even put it in the same room as you have plants - trichoderma is a beneficial part of growing plants if i am not mistaken, but not good for fungi cultivation.



Also with that being said, could i actually just have my FC in my room then and not worry about it being in the grow room for canna? i could probably just set in in the corner of my room, my room is very sterile as well.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317307 - 12/23/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fruiting isnt a sterile procedure so it doenst matter if you sterilize the room. the substrate is contam resistant now the myc has taken over.

also that sub doesnt look 100% colonized to me.  what was your ratio of sub/spawn


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317361 - 12/23/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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fruiting isnt a sterile procedure so it doenst matter if you sterilize the room. the substrate is contam resistant now the myc has taken over.

also that sub doesnt look 100% colonized to me.  what was your ratio of sub/spawn





I fucked up a little here and there :/ First i dropped 80% coir 20% verm as the substrate in the tub with 6quarts of PE spawn. let it colonize 100%
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Then i dropped a black gold seedling mix for the casing(i know i wasnt supposed to cuz of the dolomite lime. But i think itll survive due to what ive read around)
thats the first way i fucked up is by using the wrong casing. ill actually buy the jiffy mix this time or make it my own with peat and other materials I've read around and saved a few teks to check out.

Next i fucked up a little by putting a 1" layer of casing. later down the road a few days i removed like half the casing til it was about 1/4 inch. then ever since then i saw daily progression. and now its basically almost fully colonized.

The reason i fruited it, i read around and found you can fruit it at 20% colonized after you case, or you can fruit right away. or even you dont need a casing layer and can straight up fruit right as it hits 100% colonization.

Its fruited now and showing great signs of humidty and FAE and colonization., doesnt look contam to me.


2days later


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317372 - 12/23/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

oh ic, you didnt patch?


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317384 - 12/23/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't put your mushroom fruiting chamber on the ground, elevate it a foot. also, i wouldn't even put it in the same room as you have plants - trichoderma is a beneficial part of growing plants if i am not mistaken, but not good for fungi cultivation.




i really dont have anything to do that. Also, i have completely sterilized the whole room. any links on this trich benefit for plants?





http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21998166



but yeah, as the poster stated above, if you get a contamination now, the chances are it was in your spawn.

call me crazy though, i just don't like working with mushrooms where trich is growing. :shrug:


as for elevating your monotub, you can take a phone book or something and put it on top. i like chairs :thumbup:


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317499 - 12/23/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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oh ic, you didnt patch?




no i did not. read it wasnt neccesary but will be benefitial. yet i dont wanna keep adding more wrong casing if the casing isnt really neccesary from the beginning.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317544 - 12/23/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive only cased once but i found it necessary. i understand your quandry with the wrong casing.

i made my own with 50/50 peat verm and a lil hydrated lime


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317558 - 12/23/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm gonna assume you are growing Cubensis, in which case, why did you choose to add a casing layer? It is not required or needed for this species.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317569 - 12/23/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm gonna assume you are growing Cubensis, in which case, why did you choose to add a casing layer? It is not required or needed for this species.




it is with PE it prevents blobs on first flush. and im going to start casing all my tubs during winter the heat being on crushes my RH in my house


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317627 - 12/23/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol, did you really have to quote me? i'm right above you.

anyway, that is pretty interesting... i have limited experience with PE, and all i can really say is not never try growing them on cakes.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317657 - 12/23/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lol, did you really have to quote me? i'm right above you.

anyway, that is pretty interesting... i have limited experience with PE, and all i can really say is not never try growing them on cakes.




quote quote quote:D

Haha and yeah im gonna do a side by side case, no case with my next 3 Albino A+. Thats why im worried about growing canna. Ill be harvesting 1-4lbs in the next few months and probably more during the whole cannabis life time. And i could give a shit about canna compared to mushrooms. Id rather not have nakisaki bombs dropped on my head randomly. And yes i cased cuz of PE being blobby first flush.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317664 - 12/23/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lol, did you really have to quote me? i'm right above you.

anyway, that is pretty interesting... i have limited experience with PE, and all i can really say is not never try growing them on cakes.




rawr, ive seen them grow on cakes just sucks cause it takes a few weeks for them to pin from their birthday

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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317696 - 12/23/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im still curious as if its safe to grow monotubs in the same room as cannabis.


Quick question.. cant i just put my monotub in my room some whwere with 12/12, and constant air. itd be sterile in my room other than weeed smoke and sex :wink: i dont think it would do bad. i dont do much inside my closet other than contol temp. i it doesnt drop under 70 in my room


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317770 - 12/23/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My brother has his monos in his weed room and it doesnt cause problems, already has a fan going a good ambient rh and perfect temps


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317790 - 12/23/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

again, i wouldnt. i have seen first hand tubs go really quick after a flush in that same situation (same room as cannabis). the soil you use to grow cannabis will often times have trich in it.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317818 - 12/23/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My brother has his monos in his weed room and it doesnt cause problems, already has a fan going a good ambient rh and perfect temps





So yes

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again, i wouldnt. i have seen first hand tubs go really quick after a flush in that same situation (same room as cannabis). the soil you use to grow cannabis will often times have trich in it.




So no.

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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317826 - 12/23/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!?!


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    #19317845 - 12/23/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it may not hurt anything... but you might only really get one flush from it. It's your call. again, trich helps plants grow and is found in soil a lot of the time.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: 404]
    #19317848 - 12/23/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He doesnt have trich issues:shrug:colonized sub and coir make it pretty hard to fuck up


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: cronicr]
    #19317879 - 12/23/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!?!



ahhahahaha


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He doesnt have trich issues:shrug:colonized sub and coir make it pretty hard to fuck up



But do realize that this is my grow room for mushrooms before canna. So therefore i will be dropping uncolonized freshly spawned monos with taped holes in there too.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19317902 - 12/23/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pasturized subs=also contam resistent just dont go bucketing lol, just make sure you got lots of fae during fruiting bit not enough to dry it out, my brother made that mistake with too bog a fan pointed at his tub


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: cronicr]
    #19317953 - 12/23/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mine is like a 6 inch fan, it kinda runs fast, but i havent noticed any loss of humidity. everthing looking good, and only air exchange rings around the top holes.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: cronicr]
    #19317962 - 12/23/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Im still curious as if its safe to grow monotubs in the same room as cannabis.






i grow cacti and boomers same room always.
but, thats me.



you can grow alot of stuff in the same space.


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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: anne halonium]
    #19317967 - 12/23/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

SO MUCH SPECULATION


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    #19317972 - 12/23/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Will this grow set up work? [Re: cronicr]
    #19318077 - 12/23/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have a spare bedroom that I have my bud growing in. Its always around 75 and has plenty of indirect light on the blue spectrum as its were I keep my plants in veg. I also had an oscillating fan to keep air from getting hot and stagnant. So I decided I would throw my mono tubs in there. Success!! I also had many after. Yay!


My grows finish just fine in there.
Two things i suggest. Number 1. I used 100% organic soil (not sure if it makes a difference with the contam side) but for your plants its highly recommended to stay all organic. Alot of the non organic nutrients and soils have so many chemicals that i wouldn't want anywhere near my mushies or bud.
2. Your light cycle for shrooms is supposed to be 12/12. Well my veg room is on 18/6 I have not noticed any negative effects yet.

I do highly suggest keeping colonizing spawn and tubs in a separate area. I like to use my bedroom bec its slightly colder in there. Idk why but I feel like slightly colder temps slow down contams. Without affecting my spawn. :shrug: Just my imagination I guess.
On the other hand fruiting is perfectly ok IMHO. I also suggest putting them up off the floor. I used card tables and stacked them 2 high.


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