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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Spending MUST be gotten under control!! * 1
    #19316992 - 12/23/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"I am in favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it's possible.

The reason I am is because I believe the big problem is not taxes, the big problem is spending.

The question is, "How do you hold down government spending?" Government spending now amounts to close to 40% of national income not counting indirect spending through regulation and the like.

If you include that, you get up to roughly half. The real danger we face is that number will creep up and up and up.

The only effective way I think to hold it down, is to hold down the amount of income the government has. The way to do that is to cut taxes." --Milton Friedman

I am in agreement with this quote I fail to how any nation can survive if it spends itself into oblivion.


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19317007 - 12/23/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Project to the masses this global theft I've been trying


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #19317097 - 12/23/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:kaneclap:

The Governments interest in monetary worry, is apathetic at best.
That's because money is just an illusion, an illusion they helped create.
Changes are coming, and if you place value on money, and not on things that really matter, you're going to be in a hurt. :ooo:


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 2
    #19317115 - 12/23/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

One BIG shell game


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19317123 - 12/23/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone want to start a revolution with me?


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19317127 - 12/23/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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nicechrisman said:
One BIG shell game



Close enough. :shrug:


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19317132 - 12/23/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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TrentBoyett said:
Anyone want to start a revolution with me?



It has already begun...
Check out the Zeitgiest Movement.
Listen to the shiz Peter Joseph is spittin'.


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19317134 - 12/23/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
:kaneclap:

The Governments interest in monetary worry, is apathetic at best.
That's because money is just an illusion, an illusion they helped create.
Changes are coming, and if you place value on money, and not on things that really matter, you're going to be in a hurt. :ooo:



My friend I have no quarrel with money it is a fantastic way for economic transactions to be conducted. My concern is the state seizing more and more wealth and increasing its power.


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19317139 - 12/23/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A revolution has been building for as long as "money" has been used as a yoke to control human beings. Our leaders have been assassinated, our ideas deemed outlandish. In the end, peace and love take precedence over greed in my reality.


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19317146 - 12/23/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

Tmethyl said:
:kaneclap:

The Governments interest in monetary worry, is apathetic at best.
That's because money is just an illusion, an illusion they helped create.
Changes are coming, and if you place value on money, and not on things that really matter, you're going to be in a hurt. :ooo:



My friend I have no quarrel with money.



You will. :awesomenod:
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nicechrisman said:
I revolution has been building for as long as "money" has been used as a yoke to control human beings. Our leaders have been assassinated, our ideas deemed outlandish. In the end, peace and love take precedence over greed in my reality.



Well said. :blush:


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19317159 - 12/23/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19317162 - 12/23/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

Tmethyl said:
:kaneclap:

The Governments interest in monetary worry, is apathetic at best.
That's because money is just an illusion, an illusion they helped create.
Changes are coming, and if you place value on money, and not on things that really matter, you're going to be in a hurt. :ooo:



My friend I have no quarrel with money.



You will. :awesomenod:
Quote:


:confused:


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19317168 - 12/23/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 1
    #19317171 - 12/23/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice you broke the quoting system.
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing



Agreed.


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19317179 - 12/23/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Tmethyl said:
Nice you broke the quoting system.
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing



Agreed.



:grin:


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19317185 - 12/23/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

TrentBoyett said:
Anyone want to start a revolution with me?




Politicians of any color come from the masses, thousands of years of bullshit because humans as a whole suck. What will a revolution accomplish? Replacing one clown with another.


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #19317189 - 12/23/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Nice you broke the quoting system.
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
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akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing



Agreed.



Double agreed.


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: TopPmz]
    #19317261 - 12/23/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If the US government taxed individuals just a little more, you wouldn't have a insane deficit.

I'm all for cutting the expenses. The question is, where? (cough...defense...cough).

I believe that efficiencies would be the best way to cut the expenses. If the public sector in US is like Canada, then you guys have thousands of overpaid employees grabbing their asses and taking 30 minute break 4 times a day. That's where you'll save money


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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19317266 - 12/23/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing



didn't say the state creates anything, i said the states spending creates the infrastructure for the economy to take place in. all the state does is spend in order to have created and to have the ability to create structure.


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InvisibleGilgamesh18
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Re: Spending MUST be gotten under control!! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19317281 - 12/23/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
the spending of the state is what gives you your automobiles, computers, institutions (financial, educational, military, infrastructure and otherwise) and basically, all your stuff that you can garner from the marketplace.



Dude are you serious that is all private sector corporations the state creates nothing



didn't say the state creates anything, i said the states spending creates the infrastructure for the economy to take place in.



And if that was all the state did I would be fine with it sadly they overstep there constitutional bounds and continue to grow in power and control over the average american


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