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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19320795 - 12/24/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did they ever claim enlightenment of themselves?
Seriously, what is there to be enlightened?
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
#19320803 - 12/24/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Oh, and NO, you are not enlightened, even in some sort of paradox of language, ever.
That is the first clue, the second one is your attachment to the path you took.
I have no attachment. Its not something you cultivate, its a byproduct of being enlightened, it comes as a side effect. Reminiscances are not attachments. There may be as many paths to the Pacific ocean as there are travelers but there is one Pacific ocean. Kindly.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
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Rofl, keep telling yourself that and you won't make any more progress.
You have been deceived.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix] 1
#19320838 - 12/24/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And once again Buddhists come out of the woodwork and fuck everything
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19320855 - 12/24/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyways, I have a feeling you'll figure it out eventually.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: lot_justice]
#19320860 - 12/24/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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lot_justice said: And once again Buddhists come out of the woodwork and fuck everything
I'm not a Buddhist, or any other belief system.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha (moved) [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19326293 - 12/25/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19326713 - 12/25/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: The red pill truth is this...
You've been depressed. You know that feeling like there is no point or meaning to anything. How bad that felt. And why? Because it's undeniably true. Every religion and philosophy that says otherwise is a lie. Those feelings of meaninglessness are what's real, those are moments of clarity and truth. That was the first true thing I realized when I went inside myself. And that acceptance of truth and total rejection of happy dream time lies is the first step towards enlightenment. Realize it, embrace the total meaninglessness and darkness, for that's what you can know for certain is true. And all your fears and beliefs, and opinions, and people around you become meaningless too. I am a fully enlightened, holy, and perfect buddha. Its the biggest nothing of all. What have I gained? Nothing. What have I lost? Everything. What do I have? Total freedom and liberation. Enlightenment isn't what is really being sold. Its like if you go to an ice cream parlor and order a delicious vanilla sunday with chocolate syrup and a cherry on top and get a poke in the eye with a sharp stick instead. I wouldn't change or trade the experience though, for I am an enlightened truth realized entity perfect and holy. But you should know, its not all its cracked up to be.
 I think I know what you're talking about.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
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teknix said: Oh, and NO, you are not enlightened, even in some sort of paradox of language, ever.
That is the first clue, the second one is your attachment to the path you took.
I have no attachment. Its not something you cultivate, its a byproduct of being enlightened, it comes as a side effect.
You have it backwards. Non attachment isn't a byproduct of enlightenment, enlightenment is a byproduct of non attachment. You first have to let go of all the shit in your head, to make room for something deeper and more genuine to rise up and take its place.
A state of meaningless and darkness, is the opposite of enlightenment. Inner meaningless and darkness is a byproduct of fear. It's what's left when the world beats you down until you're numb.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19327084 - 12/25/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would suggest to work on Metta, or find the third eye (if you haven't already) next Ellis, and may you find out what enlightenment is and then decide if it is what it is cracked up to be.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: LifeBoy]
#19327142 - 12/25/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LifeBoy said: You have it backwards. Non attachment isn't a byproduct of enlightenment, enlightenment is a byproduct of non attachment. You first have to let go of all the shit in your head, to make room for something deeper and more genuine to rise up and take its place.
A state of meaningless and darkness, is the opposite of enlightenment. Inner meaningless and darkness is a byproduct of fear. It's what's left when the world beats you down until you're numb.
You know, its like people want to emulate the guru, do what he does. A guru sits north so the disciples think if they sit facing north it'll help them become truth realized. Or if he's a nose picker then will they sit facing north and pick their nose 8 times a day? If a man who's starving comes to me and says, how are you well fed and I respond that when I eat a lot I belch so if you belch then you're well fed. See, not only will the starving man not be fed but he'll be belching like a pig, and worst of all he'll stop looking for food so his starvation is assured.
I have no fear. Why believe that inner nothing is scary? Almost everyone if they start to wake up from the dream finds it frightening and goes back to sleep. Its the necessary first step, letting go. Letting go of everything and trying to find truth. Its the very first step, and watch out because its a doozie.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19327164 - 12/25/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My first step was third eye, I didn't do anatta until second step, but I don't know if it really matters.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#19327167 - 12/25/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: On a recent ego-loss trip, one thing rang very clear and true. We are a desperate act of emptiness, trying to become something, or discover something about it's self.. At our core, is nothing.
That is essentially true. Unawakened humans think they are an ego, but it is much like an onion. As I peeled my ego away, by the slow death from 1000 cuts, I experienced permanent ego loss after I had peeled away all the layers I was left with nothing. And that is the truth of it, nothing. And when you are nothing and realize permanent non duality consciousness you put the human suit back on, to interact in the puppet show of sight and sound, it is like the sages and prophets say, you are in the world but not of it. Now, all the world and everything around me is like a soap opera, completely trivial and of only moderate entertainment value. It's kind of like being the only adult in a world of children. Or the only awake person in a world of sleepwalkers.
Awesome 
What did it for me was a kind of Pyrrhonism in which I looked at every single belief that I had or could possibly have, and try to work out 1) whether it was truly justified or 2) whether I couldn't be completely wrong because of having misperceived things or 3) whether the opposite mirror image of my belief wasn't also perfectly valid. This was a relentless, destructive process that consumed several months of full time work.
In the end I was left with nothing and everything, with no way of objectively distinguishing between the two.
And the old beliefs and desperation reasserted itself time and time again, but the calmer I became the less of an impact it had.
And I haven't changed at all.
For me it's as if a person reaches out for some candy only to get slapped in the face, then reaches out and gets slapped again, ad infinitum. Sooner or later you have to lean back and crack a smile about it. And then just move on with things.
What was hardest was realising that I was in a state of ataraxia so blissful that other people really appeared to suffer in comparison. What should I do? In the end I realised that I had no way to make a judgment about whether their suffering was correct or not, or even whether it was subconsciously willed or attracted and that I shouldn't mess with it.
Now I just listen to the inner voice that tells me what's correct or not. I believe that this is a holographic fragment of the collective consciousness and is never wrong. I believe it's never wrong because with a clear mind I listen to it and do not suffer.
Only the voice is - shy? - or something and won't speak if your mind is full of shit. Fears are shit. To be afraid is to metaphorically and metaphysically invite excrement into your head. When I really overcame fear - which was achieved by an honest appraisal of death and whether it really, truly could be meaningful to fear it - this inner voice became audible.
I say voice but it's really more of a frequency, move towards it and one hears harmony, move away from it and the unconsciousness comes back.
I can say with full honesty that I desire nothing and have no complaints about anything in this reality. However I see the merit in still playing the human game so I don't always let on (unless I know the other person also knows).
Today I walked on a track past a golf course and wept (softly) with joy, just a few cheeky tears. I was not on any drug. I know that this joy will be balanced somehow, someway, and I do not fear that.
And all of this came after a dark night of the soul - it is five years, literally to the hour, since I first took a psychedelic.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix]
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Ellis Dee said: Those feelings of meaninglessness are what's real, those are moments of clarity and truth.....I have a lot of time to kill, before time kills me, so I share some of my experience of what enlightenment truely is.
The blind person was brought into the Room of the Light, but saw nothing.
"When a blind person and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the Light comes, then those who see will see the Light, and those who are blind will remain in darkness. "An ass which turns a millstone did a hundred miles walking. When it was loosed, it found that it was still at the same place. There are people who make many journeys, but make no progress towards a destination. When evening came upon them, they saw neither city nor village, neither creation nor nature, power nor angel. In vain have the wretches labored. -- Gospel of St. Phillip (Gnostic)
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19327472 - 12/26/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone is (by their own definition) enlightened. Your truth is not another person's truth, they find their own truth to be true. And goddammit your true isn't true unless it's my true too! 

I feel like an adult walking among little kids and have felt that way since I was a little kid And people's interactions seem like soap operas, yet I don't feel enlightened in your sense of enlightenment (it appears so at least).
Now I haven't studied Buddhism much, because it seems like a waste of time as you and I seem to agree that everything is meaningless, but to "embrace the meaningless and darkness"?.. 
That all sounds pretty faqqing gay to me. Embracing anything is meaningless, so why not embrace something more enjoyable to embrace than meaninglessness? Like another human being, or a puppy, or a squid. Whatever floats your boat
Anyways, I'm enlightened, you're not. Nah I'm just fucking around. You're enlightened in my view, but I'm also enlightened in my view, but it also doesn't look like I'm enlightened in your view. You just seem to think life is a little more lame than I do, and perhaps it is more lame for you 
I very much enjoy your poetic writing and parables though 
All of that probably sounded like the various other people attacking the OP in this thread, but I feel as though you might actually get what I'm trying to say
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: endogenous]
#19327561 - 12/26/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Firstly, Viktor; beautiful. What you've said is special and few, very few have ever walked down a similar path as yours and pulled from the depths an understanding, a laugh.
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endogenous said: "An ass which turns a millstone did a hundred miles walking. When it was loosed, it found that it was still at the same place. There are people who make many journeys, but make no progress towards a destination. When evening came upon them, they saw neither city nor village, neither creation nor nature, power nor angel. In vain have the wretches labored. -- Gospel of St. Phillip (Gnostic)
I'm not sure it could be arranged in a more succinct manner. I lived this realization, recently. I am thankful for what happened, but as Ellis has pointed out, knowing is not comforting, nor blissful.
Ellis, I want to elaborate on a few things about my most recent, and overwhelmingly intense life-changing trip. I do not consider tripping fun, I don't do it for fun, to me nothing is more sacred. I have always done it for the journey into what makes an "I". My journeys did often end in frustration, but even amidst the confusion I can remain intensely focused on my goal; knowledge. (tl;dr)
On this trip I speak of, I drove into the woods alone late at night, and dosed very heavily. I walked a few miles away from my car, so that I could not find the way back; to protect myself. I won't go into all the minor details. The trip started as usual, mild and enjoyable, there were moments where I felt all-powerful and omniscient, I slammed my hands into the soil and grabbed onto tree roots, as if to connect with them, to be one. As this progressed the visual hallucinations began to take a more vivid color and contrast than I had ever experienced, impossible to describe the self-consuming impossibly complex and living hallucinations, they became brighter and more intense until my whole world was engulfed and even with eyes open, I could be nowhere else than in those visuals. I began to lose control of my ego, it was thinking about so many things, people, my mistakes, my loves, my stupidity, my questions. I was trying so hard to convince the "I" that everything was OK, that this is expected. I became fearful, I was not ready for this-- but it was coming. I remember standing up and attempting to talk to the trees in a last resort to bring the "I" some sort of familiarity and comfort. But the "I" was a quivering mess, it was going down, and it didn't like it; it now regretted this, it now desired nothing more than to be in the comfort of the human life it so wanted to run away from, or to understand. It told it's self that it would do anything to be back, it would change it's ways, it would be more loving than it ever has, it promised to no longer question the universe, it was truly sorry. Before this "I" atrophied into nothingness, the visuals became so intensely bright I felt like my mind was being burned out of me. This was my last memory, those final psychedelic flames, brighter than the human eye could ever make sense of; roughly 2 hours into the experience. All that remained was a rhythm.. a nearly audible vibration, a music-- slowly vanishing.
Apparently I lied motionless in the pine needles and damp ground for roughly 8 hours. But what happened during this time of nothingness is where I bring into this equation, my point. For what seemed like an eternity I remember a recursive loop. I remember seeing a hand, pine needles, pine trees, stars. I had no idea what a hand was, the thing lying in front of my observation was an alien thing, I didn't know it was my hand, I didn't know it was part of me, I had no me. The pine trees and needles formed an alien landscape of which I could extract no meaning from. I just remember seeing it, then it going away into nothingness, then seeing it again. This is where I now believe I was reinserting myself back into the "I". The loop was me blinking, the intense orgasmic feelings I had during this 'loop' were me pissing myself. These are things that took me until days after the experience to reconstruct. I slowly became aware of myself again, I realized that this thing I was looking at in the pine needles, was MY hand. I remembered what I was. I slowly realized that I could move the hand, but 8 hours in the intense cold had left all of my limbs nearly unusable. My mouth was full of chewed up pine needles and dirt, but my mouth was dry as a bone. It took me 10 minutes to finally sit up, I had to relearn how to operate this body again, finger by finger, then hand by hand, and so on. At the point where I could finally lift my head, I remember repeating "what the fuck" very slowly, looking out at the cold night, what seemed like a thousand times before finally realizing that I was on the edge of dying due to cold. I started to realize that I was cold, what cold even was, and I turned my head to see my blanket and pillow nearly buried in pine needles, about 20ft away from me. I began to crawl towards them, but moving made me extremely sick and I began to vomit, but nothing came out. This happened 4-5times before I began to fade back into nothingness. Torture is a gross understatement. Movement towards the blanket caused me extreme discomfort beyond what I could ever articulate. I laid my head on the cold ground, and I could see the blanket and pillow, and the patterns on them. But I could not get to them. I then felt a comforting feeling; the feeling was me giving up-- it was comfortable to stop trying and just die, the thought of release was pulling me like a warm mothers arms. It's ok, it always was.. it's over.. Justin.
Then I remember going back into that place again, that empty nothing. I died. But suddenly I awoke, with energy, with conviction, with a goal. I just stood up quickly. I walked right to the blanket and pillow and wrapped them around me, it was easy. I saw my shoes, one was near me, the other was in some mud 20ft away, I walked right over and put them on. No problem. I could hear music.. my headphones and my phone were laying in front of me still playing. I picked them up and stuffed them in my pockets. Then I just laid there trying to get warm, but I began to realize that to become warm you have to have some warm to start with, I had nothing, the blanket was pointless. I looked around.. the night was so cold and bright with the light of a full moon. It seemed so sterile, so quiet, I didn't want to die right there. I thought of my wife and my daughter, and I stood up. I looked around and remembered the direction of the car by judging the position of a large sink hole nearby. With a pace I've never before walked, I rushed towards my car. I actually wasn't that far away, it only took me 10 minutes of extremely cold and painful walking to finally reach it. Once I reached it and got inside I started it and turned the heat on, the switched the vents to aim at my feet because I had completely lost all feeling in them other than some extremely painful stinging. It seemed like an eternity before the heater finally got warm, more intense torture. When it finally got warm I felt the most pleasurable warming feeling crawling up my body, and I instantly fell asleep. 2 hours later I woke up and could barely breathe because the heater had been running full blast for 2 hours. But it felt fucking amazing. The sun was coming up. I drove home. Everything is different now.
(tl;dr) Back to my point, I remember the nothing, the void, the empty, the blank. How is that? If nothing exists in nothingness, is the observer not nothing? Who/what can observe nothing? The very idea is impossible. The fact that we can talk about this 'nothing' is paradoxical and self-consuming logic.
I think I understand the nothing now. It's two things. One, It's a safeguard, a way of preventing you from ruining your human game. You are not allowed to see past this nothing, this nothing is as far as you're permitted to go whilst you take human form, whilst you have an "I". The nothing is a door with a big fucking lock on it my friend, you'll get past the nothing only when your game is over, maybe even the 'real' you put this door in place. The nothing isn't telling you to live with apathy, or to see the world as children compared to you, or to feel disdain for the current state of humanity. The nothing is telling you to fucking live! It's saying to go fuck up, to screw up, to be happy, to be sad, to lose control, to find peace, to be hurt, to fix something, to be a part of a change, to make music, to follow your fucking passions, to hate and to love, to find cures and make things better and make some things worse, to cry, to share, to fall and fly, to give and receive, to learn, to exercise, to be compassionate, to never feel shame, to party, to live every moment as if it's your last, to laugh, to push yourself, to be disgusting and to be embarrassed, to accomplish something, to feel elation, make art, to be rewarded and dragged down, it's saying that all emotions have an equal value, that there is no bad or good just levels of understanding, that even pain is a gift, that even death is a blessing, it's telling you to be a fucking human on planet Earth with human problems and human desires-- at least, for a little while! It's telling you to be on the Shroomery right now reading this as you are. Entertain yourself with this game, it's really funny sometimes, it can be really fun, it's great to love, it feels good to make someone happy, get involved with something. The world is not grey when you've become enlightened, enlightenment is knowing that you know nothing. Immerse yourself in the human game, you can do no wrong. All wounds are self-inflicted; It's just 1.
Two, just as you cannot have light without dark, love without hate, life without death, cold without hot, you cannot have everything without nothing. You cannot have God, without a nothing. The opposite of creativity is nothingness. This is necessary.
I think the wisest is one who has determined/concluded nothing, one who took the journey and found a loop-- then laughed.

A strange loop, technically called tangled hierarchy consciousness, arises when, by moving only upwards or downwards through a hierarchical system, one finds oneself back where one started.


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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Tmethyl]
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Well I'm really enjoying all the comments here. U all some trippy folk.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: teknix] 1
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teknix said: Oh, and NO, you are not enlightened, even in some sort of paradox of language, ever.
Gee, and you know this how?
From the way it looks on my end you have the same dogmatic certainty as the guy claiming to be enlightened, except with less logical justification.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: HalfLight]
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Everyone is (by their own definition) enlightened. Your truth is not another person's truth, they find their own truth to be true. And goddammit your true isn't true unless it's my true too! 
I like your attitude. What makes you think there's many truths? How many Pacific Oceans are there? How many paths to get there?
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I feel like an adult walking among little kids and have felt that way since I was a little kid And people's interactions seem like soap operas, yet I don't feel enlightened in your sense of enlightenment (it appears so at least).
Now I haven't studied Buddhism much, because it seems like a waste of time as you and I seem to agree that everything is meaningless, but to "embrace the meaningless and darkness"?.. 
I guess I'll just ask if you know for yourself who you are and what truth is?
And yeah, embracing the darkness, stop resisting it is part of the process. Is that emo? I don't know.
You see, depression is a bit like fear without hope. Everyone can escape depression in ne of two ways. The way most people deal with it when they get those moments of clarity is to double down on hope, that things aren't really the way they seem. The other way is to realize there's nothing to be afraid of. Its like a skydiver rushing toward the ground at 120 miles an hour. Before you hit the ground you can pull the chute and find hope, or not. The moment I was going to hit the ground there's suddenly no Earth there to hit. I'm still hurdling through the void at 120mph but there's nothing to reference it against, nothing to be afraid of. I am literally the infinate void, and its not scary, its just what I am. But its something I had to face when I wanted to find the truth instead of running back to delusion and away from it.
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That all sounds pretty faqqing gay to me. Embracing anything is meaningless, so why not embrace something more enjoyable to embrace than meaninglessness? Like another human being, or a puppy, or a squid. Whatever floats your boat
You might be happier that way. If you're having a good dream why do you want to wake up? I wouldn't. I rather stay asleep and enjoy it. And thats fine. Its not like being awake is better than being asleep. Sometimes its more like a sharp stick in the eye.
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Re: The dark night of the soul or how I became a fully enlightened krishna consciousness buddha [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19328280 - 12/26/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK, since you guys are considering anatta as enlightenment, then explain the difference between enlightenment and anatta.
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