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psyconaught
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Patlal]
#19315694 - 12/23/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: any sane human being should be fiscally conservative. To think otherwise makes you insane, irresponsible, and not fit to be running any sort of house hold or organization.
In your closed mind world.
Very true. There are more than one way to make a society function. As long as it is well organized and understood, practically any form of government could succeed. Some will have greater success than others but they could all potentially function
you cannot run any sort of sustainable household, government, business, non-profitc, etc, etc, etc. Without handling your money responsibly. Why is that such a hard concept to understand
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: zappaisgod]
#19315702 - 12/23/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The country is not "more conservative"
Although poor conservatives do show up on midterms. Where the fuck do you come up with these ridiculous statements?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
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Patlal
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19315707 - 12/23/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: any sane human being should be fiscally conservative. To think otherwise makes you insane, irresponsible, and not fit to be running any sort of house hold or organization.
In your closed mind world.
Very true. There are more than one way to make a society function. As long as it is well organized and understood, practically any form of government could succeed. Some will have greater success than others but they could all potentially function
you cannot run any sort of sustainable household, government, business, non-profitc, etc, etc, etc. Without handling your money responsibly. Why is that such a hard concept to understand 
Where did I mention that the government would squander it's money everywhere? There's a certain level of intelligence required.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Patlal]
#19315725 - 12/23/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money. I know you've been brainwashed to be afraid of the word conservative, but try to leave emotions at the door. Fiscally conservative does not have anything to do with politics, the biggest democrats if responsible should be conservative with their own finances and the countries.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19315742 - 12/23/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Being financially conservative means you support the ruling elite getting richer and the poor staying poor. For thousands of years this has been the basic struggle. Conservative is a dirty fucking word. Especially when you're poor.
Have you never taken a fucking history class?
And if you think you live with more thrift than the average liberal you're nuts. Again Conservatives are all about spend and consume not reuse and recycle.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Icelander]
#19315744 - 12/23/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think most people favor less government spending/taxing; a lot less. There is no consensus on what to cut, and what we should spend on.
I don't see any important changes in the off year election. GOP may gain some senate seats but not a majority. Same old thing. Divided government and not much getting done.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19315747 - 12/23/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money. I know you've been brainwashed to be afraid of the word conservative, but try to leave emotions at the door. Fiscally conservative does not have anything to do with politics, the biggest democrats if responsible should be conservative with their own finances and the countries.
I am for fiscal conservatism, always were. But I am able to look at the other side of the coin and understand that it can also work. Look at Sweden, some people get taxed 60% and they have a big government, the country is doing very well. Look at Russia, 13% tax, one of the lowest in the world, shitty country.
It's how you manage your system that makes the real difference.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Juicin]
#19315811 - 12/23/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: Being financially conservative means you support the ruling elite getting richer and the poor staying poor. For thousands of years this has been the basic struggle. Conservative is a dirty fucking word. Especially when you're poor.
Have you never taken a fucking history class?
And if you think you live with more thrift than the average liberal you're nuts. Again Conservatives are all about spend and consume not reuse and recycle.
reading comprehension is not your strong suite is it? If you actually read my post i said it has nothing to do with politics, check your emotional baggage at the door. Being frugal and responsible with your money has nothing to do with politics
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19315829 - 12/23/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fiscally "conservative" in the sense you seem to mean it doesn't exist
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/conservative
"the old way" is not thrift, lol
And please don't bring up the estimate
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Juicin]
#19316038 - 12/23/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this has nothing to do with 'the old way' http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative
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stop injecting politics where it doesn't exist.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19316496 - 12/23/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you cannot run any sort of sustainable household, government, business, non-profitc, etc, etc, etc. Without handling your money responsibly.
For most of us, you can't run any of those with debt, and when the rich don't trickle it down then government has to step in and spend money.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19316518 - 12/23/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money.
And WHERE would we look to find an example of the right doing this?
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: sweeper54]
#19316605 - 12/23/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money.
And WHERE would we look to find an example of the right doing this?
i already stated this has nothing to do with politics. The republicans are just as bad as the democrats with useless and irresponsible spending. Stop injecting politics into this where it doesn't exist. I am meaning conservative relating to the definition i posted above, the conservative wing is just as bad as the progressive.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Patlal]
#19316612 - 12/23/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fiscal conservativism is that intelligence you speak of.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: sweeper54]
#19316615 - 12/23/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money.
And WHERE would we look to find an example of the right doing this?
Canada for one. The conservative party has done a great job with the economy and lowered tax
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: psyconaught]
#19316617 - 12/23/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money.
And WHERE would we look to find an example of the right doing this?
i already stated this has nothing to do with politics. The republicans are just as bad as the democrats with useless and irresponsible spending. Stop injecting politics into this where it doesn't exist. I am meaning conservative relating to the definition i posted above, the conservative wing is just as bad as the progressive.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Patlal]
#19316744 - 12/23/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: being financially conservative simply means you are frugal and responsible with your money.
And WHERE would we look to find an example of the right doing this?
Canada for one. The conservative party has done a great job with the economy and lowered tax
Good for you, but there is too much money down here floating around from the lobbyists to the government these people can scream all they want about conservative values but until they get the money out of politics they will never see a conservative budget.
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: sweeper54]
#19316810 - 12/23/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweeper54 said: But a kid needs to be exposed to the process, school just gives you the basics unless you do something else with it you're going nowhere.
So what's your proof that, "The populace of the country is definitely less liberal than the politicians, (fiscally).
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Juicin]
#19316824 - 12/23/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: The country is not "more conservative"
Although poor conservatives do show up on midterms. Where the fuck do you come up with these ridiculous statements?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
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Re: the republican meltdown [Re: Juicin]
#19316847 - 12/23/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: Being financially conservative means you support the ruling elite getting richer and the poor staying poor. For thousands of years this has been the basic struggle. Conservative is a dirty fucking word. Especially when you're poor.
Have you never taken a fucking history class?
And if you think you live with more thrift than the average liberal you're nuts. Again Conservatives are all about spend and consume not reuse and recycle.
This is, of course, bullshit. Tell me how conservative the communists who ran the USSR into nonexistence were. The conservatives are about spend your own money on what you want. Liberals are about spending other people's money on shit they want.
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