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mono tubs vs green houses 1
#19316587 - 12/23/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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newbie here getting things up to par need help with deciding if i should stick with monos or move over to green houses on the production side of things withc is better ???????
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx] 1
#19316594 - 12/23/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i run both.. lol but as long as you have the conditions right both are highly productive but mono's are more set n forget but gh's look way cooler
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx] 1
#19316613 - 12/23/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you already have an isolate? Or are you still using spores?
I have a greenhouse running, I like it as I can test different isolate cultures in 6qt containers all under the same growing conditions that I grow in anyway.
My greenhouse is also fully automated with misting and FAE, so if you have the extra cash its just as easy to have a "set and forget" greenhouse as it is to have a monotub.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: dceodhz] 1
#19316619 - 12/23/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes you certainly can have the set and forget i just prefer to baby mine until i have them dialed in properly
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr] 1
#19316662 - 12/23/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It does seem like Mono's are 10x less work. My GH has a constant build up of water than I have to clean up at minimum once a week, filling the humidifier, cleaning the walls.
I think it's all a matter of preference as long as your maintaining proper fruiting conditions?
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: dceodhz] 1
#19316690 - 12/23/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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for somebody who is "new" i might just stick with mono's until you fully understand proper fruiting conditions and balancing fae/rh
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr] 1
#19316867 - 12/23/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: yes you certainly can have the set and forget i just prefer to baby mine until i have them dialed in properly
me too
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: twistedty] 1
#19450573 - 01/20/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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need some help is this cob web mold ?
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx] 1
#19450695 - 01/20/14 11:58 PM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr] 1
#19450869 - 01/21/14 12:32 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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why
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: bootster] 1
#19450881 - 01/21/14 12:36 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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bootster said: why

Not cobweb mold.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: bootster] 1
#19450883 - 01/21/14 12:36 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Because its mushroom mycelium
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: Stromrider] 1
#19450894 - 01/21/14 12:38 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: bootster] 1
#19450905 - 01/21/14 12:42 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do. But at the same time if you loose a mono tub due to a contaminant your loosing a lot of substrate. While if you loose a tray you don't loose that much substrate only like 2 jars compared to a monos 8 jars. And shelves allow you much more room then a room of mono tubs would, so in a way you do get more using trays over monos by utilizing the most of your space with the tray method.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda] 1
#19450913 - 01/21/14 12:44 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Really?
Because I've not seen anyone beat my bulk substrate to yield ratio...and it is not hard to accomplish, even for a relative "noob"
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Hey Frank
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: Stromrider] 1
#19450946 - 01/21/14 12:54 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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How you doing Strom?? You should me and let me know sometime
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: Stromrider] 1
#19450987 - 01/21/14 01:07 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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you guys talking syrup again
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19450988 - 01/21/14 01:07 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: Maple candied bacon tek
Put as many strips of bacon as you can fit in a 9"x13" baking dish.
For thick-cut or water-free bacon, cook them in the oven for 15 minutes at 400F. If you are using other (crappier) bacon, maybe do 10 minutes. Drain the excess grease before proceeding.
Use pure maple syrup. No cut, imitation, or knock-off syrup- only real maple syrup will do! Pour it over the bacon and rub them around in it until they are coated (I used 1/3 cup of syrup for 5.5 strips of bacon)
Cook in the oven at 350F for 10 minutes. Flip them over and cook for another 10-15 minutes, until the maple syrup is thick and brown.
Just make sure to watch it for the last few minutes, the maple syrup with go from caramelized to burnt pretty quick towards the end.
Smother the bacon in the syrup goo and move it to a plate to cool. I put them in the fridge.
I like to sprinkle a little chipotle pepper powder on them before cooking and/or after.
edit: I should mention, the pan you cook this in will be a sticky, nasty mess. To clean it quickly and easily, just fill it with water and put it in the oven at 250F for about 30 minutes. All the sugar will release from the pan and you can rinse and wash it with little hassle 
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Really?
Because I've not seen anyone beat my bulk substrate to yield ratio...and it is not hard to accomplish, even for a relative "noob" 
Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge... Luckfully for me I am upgrading my room as is any way, and have gotten a lot more funds. And you did still prove my point that it is cheaper to do it in monos, and easier... Im confused where the argument is? But I will try and beat your Subtrate to yield ratio and will make it a point to message you and keep you updated with progress. I just made A new compost recipe after a few trial and errors with ph and plugging in some formulas from Paul Stamets the mushroom cultivator. I will make a high yielding compost just had to tweak some things.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451018 - 01/21/14 01:15 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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don't forget to get a good yielding culture to go with it
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19451019 - 01/21/14 01:16 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Mmm syrup
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19451026 - 01/21/14 01:22 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge...
It is a challenge 
Your post sounded like you are saying that trays are more productive and a better choice all around, for space in particular. I was arguing that point.
Are you saying that monos are for noobs because they are cheap and easy:
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Or are you saying that monos are a poor choice because noobs could get more productivity out of the same space using trays in a GH:
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mycopanda said: And shelves allow you much more room then a room of mono tubs would, so in a way you do get more using trays over monos by utilizing the most of your space with the tray method.
I bet you might find that monos can be quite the productive FC. I've yet to beat my mono yields when using trays in the GH...even from MS
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge...
It is a challenge 
Your post sounded like you are saying that trays are more productive and a better choice all around, for space in particular. I was arguing that point.
Are you saying that monos are for noobs because they are cheap and easy:
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Or are you saying that monos are a poor choice because noobs could get more productivity out of the same space using trays in a GH:
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mycopanda said: I did not mean to sound like one was better then the other, I was just simply doing the pros and cons I have found in both. Though You are rite no argument about the fact that monos produce wayyyy more in yield.. But then again you put in more substrate and bulk then you do in tray.. which is a bad thing when one gets contaminated. I know you can stack mono's but when I had a room full of stacked mono's it was just to much for me to shift between them all and check on them.. I preferred the GH and shelves when it came to cleaning, moving, and viewing of the mushrooms. Idk different strokes for different folks rite!!
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451132 - 01/21/14 01:50 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank
That's a completed project, here's the current one.
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cronicr said: don't forget to get a good yielding culture to go with it;)
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank
That's a completed project, here's the current one.
wow nice! You really like the monos huh? And I'm curious is you GH a lil Martha stewart set up? because if so I think what you call a GH is not what Im thinking when I talk about a Gh.. I'm thinking room filled with industrial shelves and room walls tarped off and made to have the whole room used as a GH. I am in transition of turning my GH into that rite now.. I shall keep you updated! I currently have one 2 industrial shelves made into a gigantic Martha stewart Gh with shelves big enough for 10 bus tray and 6 different shelving spaces..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451193 - 01/21/14 02:17 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
but a room full of mono's will
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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
Wrong... It will hold them fine... not as well but that is assuming your still trying to use a ultra sonic humidifier as your only source.. I will have a vent system made that allows a certain amount of fresh air ran inside my room with a mister that hits a heating coil that causes humidity... Then I will also have a exhaust. tweaking it and getting my fan, damper box, and exaust on a schedualed proper timer for will be the kinda hard part.. not even really I just have to plug in the numbers to the equations made already for finding out how much fae you need in a room so big.... I promise.. not that hard. Like I said I will keep you updated with my progress! Oh and a swamp cooler just in case it starts to get too hot, and all will be have pre filter and hepa filter in them..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
Wrong... It will hold them fine... not as well but that is assuming your still trying to use a ultra sonic humidifier as your only source.. I will have a vent system made that allows a certain amount of fresh air ran inside my room with a mister that hits a heating coil that causes humidity... Then I will also have a exhaust. tweaking it and getting my fan, damper box, and exaust on a schedualed proper timer for will be the kinda hard part.. not even really I just have to plug in the numbers to the equations made already for finding out how much fae you need in a room so big.... I promise.. not that hard. Like I said I will keep you updated with my progress! Oh and a swamp cooler just in case it starts to get too hot, and all will be have pre filter and hepa filter in them..
This is comparing to mini Martha GH not to be put in comparison with monos.. monos are just alota work and cleaning for me.. I like access to my product stacked in front of me neatly on shelves where I can move around, touch, and view them w.o having to move a bunch of other mono's... (I have ben down the room full of monos road, it wasn't for me.) Different strokes for different folks..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451240 - 01/21/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Ok, you do that and let us know how it goes in practice, not on paper 
Here is my mini-GH setup, for reference.
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that 
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
And I will just leave my room with its vent running.. Same concept but mine is honestly more of a controlled environment. Plus I have trays that are easy to move, fill, and put away. I have ben considering switching it up to laundry baskets.. That way I yield mono tub amounts with the easy access of having it on shelves... I let it colonize to bulk In the laundry basket ( a round one). it is already wraped up with plastic seran wrap to the top covering it while it colonizes. Then I can pull it out of the basket seran wrap it and set on my shelves. I have huge industrial shelves.. plenty of room for them.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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mycopanda said:
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that 
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
And I will just leave my room with its vent running.. Same concept but mine is honestly more of a controlled environment. Plus I have trays that are easy to move, fill, and put away. I have ben considering switching it up to laundry baskets.. That way I yield mono tub amounts with the easy access of having it on shelves... I let it colonize to bulk In the laundry basket ( a round one). it is already wraped up with plastic seran wrap to the top covering it while it colonizes. Then I can pull it out of the basket seran wrap it and set on my shelves. I have huge industrial shelves.. plenty of room for them.
I still have mono tubs.. Just not a room full... I did the same thing everyone does when they decide to grow big... weigh out your pros and cons of each different bulk growing styles and pick the one that suits you best... I think we are both rite.. Now its just for the user who made this thread to choose.. your's is like I said earlier wayyyyy easier for someone that is new to growing mushrooms with a limited budget to do. So I would suggest monotubs.
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that and let us know how it goes in practice, not on paper 
Here is my mini-GH setup, for reference.
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
You can see the version of my GH on my journal as well.. but my version of my GH is WAYYYYYYY BIGER THEN YOURS!(Hence the reason my GH produces more then yours). I made my own GH didn't go buy one, It isn't a play by play it's just a peak at my lab. Though it is enough to show that my work was in practice, not just in theory on paper..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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xxbigmilkxx said: need some help is this cob web mold ?

Did he spam this in every thread?
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
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i only posted it to my threads no one elses
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19457967 - 01/22/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I started with a GH and didn't try monos and dub tubs until later on. I found the GH to be much harder to dial in. I also found it reacted more to my houses low RH than tubs. As far as the risk of having all your spawn in one big tub as opposed to several trays. I make mini tubs using only 3 quarts each. If I could go back in time I would skip the GH and just do mini dub tubs.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: MudaFuka]
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MudaFuka said: I started with a GH and didn't try monos and dub tubs until later on. I found the GH to be much harder to dial in. I also found it reacted more to my houses low RH than tubs. As far as the risk of having all your spawn in one big tub as opposed to several trays. I make mini tubs using only 3 quarts each. If I could go back in time I would skip the GH and just do mini dub tubs.
Yes green houses are harder to dial in... Mono's are definitely good for newbies.. I on the other hand have great success with my gh and it was easy for me... but it is not easy for everybody that is forshur.. It took experimenting and setting things on timers controlled by hemostats that tell my swamp cooler when temps are getting to high... But that took a lot of work, and immense amount of studying proper environmental factors for the strain grown in their. And it helps I had a few years of already growing and doing mono's... So the gh just made complete sense to me. But it is usually really complicated and to overwhelming for those people who are new to growing or can't figure out how to properly control temps and humidity in a gh.. I grow and have a legal marijuana garden so controlling gh temps and RH came easy to me.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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And they are easily scaleable to make larger and larger after it's all setup.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
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And they are easily scaleable to make larger and larger after it's all setup.
 Exactly =)... the thing with a GH is you have to have a way to get you rh, fae, and temps to all co exist w.o effecting the other drastically. Once you get a GH that does this or you can figure out how to, then the potential is endless on how big you can grow... This is also how industrial growers do it... Usually by tray, bag, or logs not monos... Never heard of a industial grower growing from monos.. So gh have the potential to be veryyyy big if you know what your doing.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
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Don't get me wrong my GH is perfectly dialed in and iv had great success with it. I just find my tubs to be much less hassle and think they make cense for new growers. I still love my GH.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: MudaFuka]
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MudaFuka said: Don't get me wrong my GH is perfectly dialed in and iv had great success with it. I just find my tubs to be much less hassle and think they make cense for new growers. I still love my GH.
Oh yes I'm shur you do! I was agreeing with you but also letting them know why I choose to do the GH... I do monos stacked on a shelve as well... I like them both. We know your not a noob silly!
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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I actually am fairly new to growing. I just started in 2013. Iv just hit the research hard and done a lot in a short time.
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Experience is what make you a good grower... What I mean is I could grow mushrooms for 1 year hard with many projects and extensive research. ( hit it like you have a passion for it) ,then meet someone who has grown for 3 years but not with near as much intensity and only on and off. You probably have more experience then he does even though he has known how to grow longer... It depends on the person. Noob doesn't define you as a new grower... just a inexperienced one. But if your a long time and dedicated grower then watch out.. that's a combination thats not to be reckoned with.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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but when u have them dialed in there great right ?
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xxbigmilkxx said: but when u have them dialed in there great right ?
Yes that's what we just discussed... Just way easier to do monos... Their is a easy way with a less controlled environment and then theirs the gh with a more controlled environment!
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xxbigmilkxx said: but when u have them dialed in there great right ?
Yes that's what we just discussed... Just way easier to do monos... Their is a easy way with a less controlled environment and then theirs the gh with a more controlled environment!
In a mono your substrate allows for the perfect environment of fae and gh along with you ventilation... rather then a gh where you must find other variable's to make the proper environment.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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xxbigmilkxx said: but when u have them dialed in there great right ?
Yes that's what we just discussed... Just way easier to do monos... Their is a easy way with a less controlled environment and then theirs the gh with a more controlled environment!
In a mono your substrate allows for the perfect environment of fae and gh along with you ventilation... rather then a gh where you must find other variable's to make the proper environment.
apples and oranges. Like you say, you wouldn't see a commercial farm using mono's. But both have their benefits. Ease of setup is definitely one of the benefits of a mono or 10.
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Yes that's what we just discussed... Just way easier to do monos... Their is a easy way with a less controlled environment and then theirs the gh with a more controlled environment!
In a mono your substrate allows for the perfect environment of fae and gh along with you ventilation... rather then a gh where you must find other variable's to make the proper environment.
apples and oranges. Like you say, you wouldn't see a commercial farm using mono's. But both have their benefits. Ease of setup is definitely one of the benefits of a mono or 10.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
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Commercial farms grow mushrooms that are (mostly) intolerant to CO2 levels that monos tend to contain.
However, I can say that if I were to make a "commercial cubensis farm" somewhere it was legal, then I would certainly, certainly use monos as my grow method. 400 monos in a warehouse? Yes please 
For gourmets, like oysters and lions mane and the like? Never in a mono. Legal mushrooms require different conditions that monos are not (usually) suitable for.
So the point that commercial farms wouldn't use monos is actually debatable, depending on the context.
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You aren't looking at the big picture. 400 mono tubs? Really? That would be way more work then the fruit is worth. You know if you just bought those big tubs that are as long as a mono tub but not as tall you cold put it on industrial shelf's and produce the same amount that you are out of those mono's... Those mono's Are meant to keep you rh and fae tuned so you don't have to do much. But in doing so they take up a lot of room in height that isn't necessary, when you could be using that room for another shelf with more trays... Your yielding so much out of mono's because You have more sq ft of bulk, and you use more substrate. Add that to a tray adequate size on a shelf with plenty of room to move around, shift and harvest..whats their to debate? Its kinda obvious why a GH is used in industrial grows other then the intolerance of Co2... Making the most of your space! with 400 mono's you would not be using your space wisely and would be doing more work then it is worth. Especially if you use the big trays I described, then you yield the same amount as mono's w.o all that upper height taking up more tray space. And with 400 mono's in a room you would have a issue with to much heat, lack of fae,rh , and would have to make a GH like environment anyways just not as controlled... Not worth it
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king oyster and enoki might be candidates for mono's
but i think concidering the amount of substrate for an individual container, and the possible difficulty of filling that automated or real fast (and cleaning it afterwards), the big farms would rather go for big bags (machinery fillable and disposable), or huge long trays (faster to fill).
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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You are overlooking the fact that my monos will outperform a greenhouse set up that takes up the same space.
I run 20 66qt monos, I pull 12 pounds dry in 6 weeks time (75% of that comes in the first flush). That doesn't get beaten by a greenhouse- that much space can be filled with two of my GHs and I've tried, trust me
"Huge long trays" don't perform as well as you would expect. Again, I've tried. edit: to top it off, my monos don't require misting, humidifier refills, etc. They just need a fan running in the room.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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I love my dubtub/mini monos. I bought plastic shelves that you piece together with four levels each and I have room for three tubs on each level. That's twelve minis I can fit on each whole shelf.
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Actually Frank if you get a tray the size of a mono or even make a long tray of your own it will colonize and fruit just fine... ( I do it all the time) I have made my point and my logic makes 100% sense...
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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mycopanda said: Actually Frank if you get a tray the size of a mono or even make a long tray of your own it will colonize and fruit just fine... ( I do it all the time) I have made my point and my logic makes 100% sense...
What sounds good on paper does not always apply in practice, my friend. Like communism 
You do a comparison (I've done a few), take an isolate and grow it out on grains. Fruit a substrate of equal size in a properly dialed-in mono and in a mini-GH. I bet you'll be surprised as to the result.
The argument that a greenhouse will always outperform a set of monos taking the same amount of space and sub, that is not as clear as you are trying to cut it.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
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I love my dubtub/mini monos. I bought plastic shelves that you piece together with four levels each and I have room for three tubs on each level. That's twelve minis I can fit on each whole shelf.

   
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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He puts monos on a shelf...that's not a GH and trays, those are monos or dubtubs on a shelf
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
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No, I agree with you. I had a bunch of mini monos before, I ran them on shelves as well 
Nowadays I just stack the tubs, "normal" size or miniature. That saves more space than using shelves even.
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Someone apparently cant dial in a GH... W.e agree to disagree. the person who made this post has already chose to do a GH... So us and are petty debate isn't needed anymore.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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Who can't dial in a GH?
I've grown five different species in mine, multiple times. I posted a couple grow logs as well.
How about you?
This debate continues because while you are preaching theory, I've done quite a bit of work to see what works best. And I continue to press because I think you are talking a bit more shit than your experience allows for.
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He puts monos on a shelf...that's not a GH and trays, those are monos or dubtubs on a shelf 
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Nowadays I just stack the tubs, "normal" size or miniature. That saves more space than using shelves even.
Word. Yea I don't even have the time to do that much grain right now. I've grown to love these minis though anyway.
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Just because someone doesn't boast their grow all over the internet doesn't mean it isn't happening... my lack of posting my grow's doesn't mean im not growing.. Think your letting that trusted cultivator tag get to your head... This was a friendly debate your just fucking rude. And FYI When I said someone can't dial a GH I ment the person who made this post! I was informing everyone because he told me via private message.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
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Whatever works for you is what you should stick with 
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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Sometimes it's best to dock the ego guise...

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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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im gonna do both by the way i have monos i can just sit and forget about wile i play witht the GH im just wanting to stick to the green house for more fun and i can save space i belive i could get better yeilds out of it from what i have read and seen PLUSS IT LOOKS WAY COOLER
mycropanda thanks for all the help im sure theres is alot to learn from u ill keep u posted on how things again thanks for all the help
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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And I'll bet I know which you end up liking better right off 
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im not gonna lie i like green house better already but that dsont mean i cant do both i know the green house will take some time to get it dialed in right but fuck it thats what im in this hobbie for to have fun and thats what im doing with both
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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I love my GH too 
Have you looked at my write ups, specifically dialing in your monotubs?
These will help with the mono grows. And my mini-GH write up might help with your GH
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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Glad you Like it! Im impressed by the size of GH you choose! Nice and big!! Just how I like them! Hope all the advice I gave you on getting it all dialed in makes it super easy for you! It should! love the pics you showed me btw lots of room to move around in their I like it!!
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Glad you Like it! Im impressed by the size of GH you choose! Nice and big!! Just how I like them! Hope all the advice I gave you on getting it all dialed in makes it super easy for you! It should! love the pics you showed me btw lots of room to move around in their I like it!!
And regardless of are discussion earlier, you should check out his mono tub tek.. it makes it supppeeerr easy for you to dial in your mono for shur! And it will give you some fruits and things to do while you figure out your gh! glad I could help you!!
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getting it dialed in
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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Get yo self an analog hygrometer, those digital ones are no good
Glad you got a laugh! I love that gif too 
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I cant wait to see your project finished! I just pcd 10 5 quart bags today.. Gunna do 10 more tomaro.. We should be done around the same time. I have a few trays down now while Im waiting for these bags.
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The black tape is purely to show you where my bulk is at... I do know lighting will not effect my side pining. Well I couldn't sit around ideally and just let you test em out.. I had to start up a experiment of my own. ( I already know the end results) But apparently Around here you gotta post pics of it or no one believe you can do it... so here is a sneak peak of of the study I have going on mono tubs vs Gh... WIll post a thread soon... Also the reason I have two trays is because two of those trays has 2 jars of spawn a peace.. that mono has 5 jars of spawn.. The mono has one more jar of spawn and 3 more quarts bulk then my two trays. Making them almost equivlant but at the same time my trays are holding less. ( I could put more spawn in it I choose not to because it isn't necessary). Any who I have 5 in the smaller mono, what Im laying down today is the 66 qrt monos which takes 7 to 8 in spawn and comparing it to three of my trays which only takes 6 jars of spawn.. I will be taking many pics and writing down all my progress... I will show you guys why trays and greenhouses can definatly fruit as much as a mono. Oh bigmilk I will send you pics of my new GH>> I just got it up today it is bigger and better!
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19491296 - 01/29/14 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
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I know you didn't think I was gunna let this debate go without a fight! Tehe Ive just ben scheming it up... this is just the beginning you guys buckle in your seat belts this is gunna get interesting... I will be throwing in a few twists.. and can anyone say I want a kiddie pool of mushies? I DO!
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19495733 - 01/30/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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kiddie pool of mushies? thought anne tried that in the 80's? BWA Ha Ah (bowser laugh) panda, what are u using for ur lid filters? are those just unmodified SFD's sandwiched between lid parts?
edit: also, what do u have on that shelf in the tray covered in (looks like) cling wrap? I'm guess bulk project colonizing?
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blindingleaf said: kiddie pool of mushies? thought anne tried that in the 80's? BWA Ha Ah (bowser laugh) panda, what are u using for ur lid filters? are those just unmodified SFD's sandwiched between lid parts?
edit: also, what do u have on that shelf in the tray covered in (looks like) cling wrap? I'm guess bulk project colonizing?
I don't talk to anne.. She is a Natzi and another person who is stuck in her ways.. ( and no one said the pool of mushrooms was new) I have seen a garage full of them I know its not new... <<.. But have I physicaly done it no... yes that is Glade wrap seran wrap... I decided I wanted to use it because its polyethylene. It allows for gas exchange while not allowing contaminants. You don't wanna buy a off brand of glad for a off brand usually has polyvinylchloride and isn't gas exchangeable.. As long as you know the difference glad wrap can be used.. and is cheaper then aluminum, and I don't have to remove my top layer to see if its done. I use sterile gauze pads as my filters (I cut a square into 4 separate squares), and yes thos are just big bulk trays sitting down colonizing.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19495934 - 01/30/14 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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i know u didn't say that, i was just trying to be funny (thats y i added the bowser laugh...) sry if it seemed like i did.
sterile gauze pads u say? cool. are they the same size as unmodified SFD's?
and true true on the glad. i have read that before. used to use it on petris, but was pain in the ass IME so i switched to parafilm (or pp5's). so u drape it over or wrap entire thing loosely? (can't tell from pic)
also wondering how much grains u use per bag (5 qts looks like?) and how u go about inoculating them. just getting into bags, and have had what i can only assume to be beginners luck without a flow hood.
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I cant honestly Answer if they are the same size as unfitted filter discs.. I have ben using them sense I first started growing, I don't often buy much for my lab online. I like to make as many of my tools as I can. But the Gauze pads I buy are 4 in by 4 in and the unfold into 4 separate filters for jars.. I don't use just one I unfold it and cut it in 4. And my bags are all 3rd and some 2nd gen.. So they are done by g2g then sealed and put away either on the shelf you see or in a incubating tub I have. ( I have ben running out of room for my incubating spawn so im adding another room just for it, and my sterile lab). Yes they are 5 quart bags I find it less of a contam risk to just stick in 5 qrt per bag. Yes Para film is idea for petri's it is also what I use for mine.. Using Para film is actually what turned me onto using saran wrap on my trays. No it is not loose, I wrap it all the way around my bottom and sides first so I can have a few sheets that stick on top of it without wrapping it under it. ( cling wrap on sticks well to other cling wrap) So just do a layer around your sides first then you can set a few on top easy by clinging it to the wrap on the side of you tub.
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I have put some thought into this now that you have mentioned it.. AND Im going to do it because I never have, but im going to try something new as well. So I will go shopping sometime next week and will find something awsome and amazingly new that you haven't seen to grow out of ok! I will try and make this interesting..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19587419 - 02/18/14 09:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So how is this mono vs Gh thing going? I haven't seen a update.. Here is where im at.. First step was to prove that my trays utilize more space stacking next to monos.. Here is my proof.. more to come.


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Now that's three monotubs stacked and I got 4 rows of my tubs stacked and im still using less room then those monos.. Now lets see wich one I pull more fruits from now that ive utilized better use of my space.. I will be posting pics of the fruits and the yields.. along with comparisons of the time it took to colonize for them all.. I have a notebook that I take notes in so I wont be loosing numbers..
franky feel free to jump in on this any time.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: MudaFuka]
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is the tape covering ur holes on the mono's the Pringle's guy?
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Yes of course they are colonizing rite now.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
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wow! Love it!
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old thread dude
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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Green house is another level, but for me I just didn't like the loss of control.
Everything in the GH needs to be fruiting. Whereas mono's have the versatility to control all aspects and accommodate various stages of the grow.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
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i love my gh but filling fogger wit distilled water all the time gets annoying
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Im going to bump this old thread and leave my final two centa on the matter. I have been growing for 7 years now, it has been a long beautiful journey in which has led me to who and where I am today. I'm starting up a small mushroom farm finally and still continue my experiments I just don't post my pictures anymore of anything illegal. Mono vs tray... They both have there pros and cons I personally do both... I have 33 Monos and a walk in greenhouse not to mention my basement being converted atm to a indoor edible grow... I love them both although I have holes in my monos I dont fill them with any poly fill because O have a comercial humidifer running at all times set on a humidistat, and my green house has a walgreen humidifer in it.. it's a small walk in martha green house. I like that trays are a less pain in the ass to pick, when you have 33 monos that are stacked all the way up so you can walk around and check everything it gets to be a pain in the ass to pull all down just to mist, I just rotate what is resting for a second flush and put what is pinning up top and easier to see and get to... Where as my trays are an easy wam bam thank you ma'am when it comes to picking and watering.. Either way its whatever floats your boat and what you like best... I personally love them both and have decided I don't have to choose, lol!
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