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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19450988 - 01/21/14 01:07 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: Maple candied bacon tek
Put as many strips of bacon as you can fit in a 9"x13" baking dish.
For thick-cut or water-free bacon, cook them in the oven for 15 minutes at 400F. If you are using other (crappier) bacon, maybe do 10 minutes. Drain the excess grease before proceeding.
Use pure maple syrup. No cut, imitation, or knock-off syrup- only real maple syrup will do! Pour it over the bacon and rub them around in it until they are coated (I used 1/3 cup of syrup for 5.5 strips of bacon)
Cook in the oven at 350F for 10 minutes. Flip them over and cook for another 10-15 minutes, until the maple syrup is thick and brown.
Just make sure to watch it for the last few minutes, the maple syrup with go from caramelized to burnt pretty quick towards the end.
Smother the bacon in the syrup goo and move it to a plate to cool. I put them in the fridge.
I like to sprinkle a little chipotle pepper powder on them before cooking and/or after.
edit: I should mention, the pan you cook this in will be a sticky, nasty mess. To clean it quickly and easily, just fill it with water and put it in the oven at 250F for about 30 minutes. All the sugar will release from the pan and you can rinse and wash it with little hassle 
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mycopanda
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Really?
Because I've not seen anyone beat my bulk substrate to yield ratio...and it is not hard to accomplish, even for a relative "noob" 
Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge... Luckfully for me I am upgrading my room as is any way, and have gotten a lot more funds. And you did still prove my point that it is cheaper to do it in monos, and easier... Im confused where the argument is? But I will try and beat your Subtrate to yield ratio and will make it a point to message you and keep you updated with progress. I just made A new compost recipe after a few trial and errors with ph and plugging in some formulas from Paul Stamets the mushroom cultivator. I will make a high yielding compost just had to tweak some things.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451018 - 01/21/14 01:15 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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don't forget to get a good yielding culture to go with it
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19451019 - 01/21/14 01:16 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Mmm syrup
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19451026 - 01/21/14 01:22 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge...
It is a challenge 
Your post sounded like you are saying that trays are more productive and a better choice all around, for space in particular. I was arguing that point.
Are you saying that monos are for noobs because they are cheap and easy:
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Or are you saying that monos are a poor choice because noobs could get more productivity out of the same space using trays in a GH:
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mycopanda said: And shelves allow you much more room then a room of mono tubs would, so in a way you do get more using trays over monos by utilizing the most of your space with the tray method.
I bet you might find that monos can be quite the productive FC. I've yet to beat my mono yields when using trays in the GH...even from MS
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mycopanda
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FrankHorrigan said:
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank... But that sounds like a challenge and I love a challenge...
It is a challenge 
Your post sounded like you are saying that trays are more productive and a better choice all around, for space in particular. I was arguing that point.
Are you saying that monos are for noobs because they are cheap and easy:
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mycopanda said: Okay monos are usefull for cheap Fruiting conditions and are easier for a noob to do.
Or are you saying that monos are a poor choice because noobs could get more productivity out of the same space using trays in a GH:
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mycopanda said: I did not mean to sound like one was better then the other, I was just simply doing the pros and cons I have found in both. Though You are rite no argument about the fact that monos produce wayyyy more in yield.. But then again you put in more substrate and bulk then you do in tray.. which is a bad thing when one gets contaminated. I know you can stack mono's but when I had a room full of stacked mono's it was just to much for me to shift between them all and check on them.. I preferred the GH and shelves when it came to cleaning, moving, and viewing of the mushrooms. Idk different strokes for different folks rite!!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451132 - 01/21/14 01:50 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank
That's a completed project, here's the current one.
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mycopanda
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cronicr said: don't forget to get a good yielding culture to go with it;)
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mycopanda said: Nice project you have going their frank
That's a completed project, here's the current one.
wow nice! You really like the monos huh? And I'm curious is you GH a lil Martha stewart set up? because if so I think what you call a GH is not what Im thinking when I talk about a Gh.. I'm thinking room filled with industrial shelves and room walls tarped off and made to have the whole room used as a GH. I am in transition of turning my GH into that rite now.. I shall keep you updated! I currently have one 2 industrial shelves made into a gigantic Martha stewart Gh with shelves big enough for 10 bus tray and 6 different shelving spaces..
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451193 - 01/21/14 02:17 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
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cronicr



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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
but a room full of mono's will
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mycopanda
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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
Wrong... It will hold them fine... not as well but that is assuming your still trying to use a ultra sonic humidifier as your only source.. I will have a vent system made that allows a certain amount of fresh air ran inside my room with a mister that hits a heating coil that causes humidity... Then I will also have a exhaust. tweaking it and getting my fan, damper box, and exaust on a schedualed proper timer for will be the kinda hard part.. not even really I just have to plug in the numbers to the equations made already for finding out how much fae you need in a room so big.... I promise.. not that hard. Like I said I will keep you updated with my progress! Oh and a swamp cooler just in case it starts to get too hot, and all will be have pre filter and hepa filter in them..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451234 - 01/21/14 02:41 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said:
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FrankHorrigan said: A "full-room GH" won't hold conditions as well as individual, modest-sized monos will...and you can fill the room with them.
Wrong... It will hold them fine... not as well but that is assuming your still trying to use a ultra sonic humidifier as your only source.. I will have a vent system made that allows a certain amount of fresh air ran inside my room with a mister that hits a heating coil that causes humidity... Then I will also have a exhaust. tweaking it and getting my fan, damper box, and exaust on a schedualed proper timer for will be the kinda hard part.. not even really I just have to plug in the numbers to the equations made already for finding out how much fae you need in a room so big.... I promise.. not that hard. Like I said I will keep you updated with my progress! Oh and a swamp cooler just in case it starts to get too hot, and all will be have pre filter and hepa filter in them..
This is comparing to mini Martha GH not to be put in comparison with monos.. monos are just alota work and cleaning for me.. I like access to my product stacked in front of me neatly on shelves where I can move around, touch, and view them w.o having to move a bunch of other mono's... (I have ben down the room full of monos road, it wasn't for me.) Different strokes for different folks..
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451240 - 01/21/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Ok, you do that and let us know how it goes in practice, not on paper 
Here is my mini-GH setup, for reference.
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (01/21/14 02:49 AM)
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mycopanda
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that 
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
And I will just leave my room with its vent running.. Same concept but mine is honestly more of a controlled environment. Plus I have trays that are easy to move, fill, and put away. I have ben considering switching it up to laundry baskets.. That way I yield mono tub amounts with the easy access of having it on shelves... I let it colonize to bulk In the laundry basket ( a round one). it is already wraped up with plastic seran wrap to the top covering it while it colonizes. Then I can pull it out of the basket seran wrap it and set on my shelves. I have huge industrial shelves.. plenty of room for them.
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mycopanda
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19451274 - 01/21/14 03:04 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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mycopanda said:
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that 
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
And I will just leave my room with its vent running.. Same concept but mine is honestly more of a controlled environment. Plus I have trays that are easy to move, fill, and put away. I have ben considering switching it up to laundry baskets.. That way I yield mono tub amounts with the easy access of having it on shelves... I let it colonize to bulk In the laundry basket ( a round one). it is already wraped up with plastic seran wrap to the top covering it while it colonizes. Then I can pull it out of the basket seran wrap it and set on my shelves. I have huge industrial shelves.. plenty of room for them.
I still have mono tubs.. Just not a room full... I did the same thing everyone does when they decide to grow big... weigh out your pros and cons of each different bulk growing styles and pick the one that suits you best... I think we are both rite.. Now its just for the user who made this thread to choose.. your's is like I said earlier wayyyyy easier for someone that is new to growing mushrooms with a limited budget to do. So I would suggest monotubs.
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FrankHorrigan said: Ok, you do that and let us know how it goes in practice, not on paper 
Here is my mini-GH setup, for reference.
I'm going to run a fan in a room full of tubs.
You can see the version of my GH on my journal as well.. but my version of my GH is WAYYYYYYY BIGER THEN YOURS!(Hence the reason my GH produces more then yours). I made my own GH didn't go buy one, It isn't a play by play it's just a peak at my lab. Though it is enough to show that my work was in practice, not just in theory on paper..
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19455651 - 01/22/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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xxbigmilkxx said: need some help is this cob web mold ?

Did he spam this in every thread?
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: vikingsc]
#19455811 - 01/22/14 01:18 AM (10 years, 9 days ago) |
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: cronicr]
#19457550 - 01/22/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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i only posted it to my threads no one elses
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19457967 - 01/22/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I started with a GH and didn't try monos and dub tubs until later on. I found the GH to be much harder to dial in. I also found it reacted more to my houses low RH than tubs. As far as the risk of having all your spawn in one big tub as opposed to several trays. I make mini tubs using only 3 quarts each. If I could go back in time I would skip the GH and just do mini dub tubs.
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