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Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia
    #19314760 - 12/23/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm thinking of buying a lovely specimen of Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia.

Has anybody heard of this variety?  Is it active?

Thanks folks.

Edit..


Also, has anybody heard of Lophophora williamsii v.caespitosa?


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19315045 - 12/23/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have not heard about v.solitalia before but I have 5 v. caespitosa, you can see 3 of them in my signature.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: Pestile]
    #19315123 - 12/23/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think "solitalia" is just some habitat, basically lophophora williamsii.

Or if such an habitat or area do not exists I think it can mean it's one head peyote. If this "v. solitalia" can be read as "solitary" ..I have never heard about solitalia but it cross my mind maybe it can mean solitary "non-caespitose" peyote. Just hypothesis about.. I really don't know further.

Also basically different habitat peyote doesn't mean they're different variants. They are just from different habitat, not any variants of peyote. Most people confuse habitat name and think it's different variant of peyote. All l. williamsii seems to be pretty much same anyway.. Except clustering caespitosa.

Caespitosa variant just produce offshoot growth instead of one main crown.

I think this "v. solitalia" is something like this:


Caespitosa is variant and it's different:


Do not stress too much about variants of peyote because there is very small number of actual real variants of it. Some people will confuse about this, like I said, habitat area peyote name is not any name for variant.

Do you heard this "solitalia" name from nursery or private person?

Anyway if there is place, area or zone named Solitalia somewhere, then cactus is just regular peyote growing in area named solitalia or so. IF it doesn't mean "solitary" or anything..

Edit: Just found a thai-language site where was photos from peyote cactus named to "solitalia" ..it's probably just regular l. williamsii.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: Pestile]
    #19315142 - 12/23/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you don't get any hits with a google search you would have to wonder what v solitalia is supposed to mean. Has someone just made up there own var to charge more or does it have a unique form.
If it looks like a willy and it smells like a willy and feels like a willy then it more than likely is a willy. :grin:
As long as its a fair price for the size of the plant then you should be all good if it is a willy.

If you type  Lophophora williamsii v.caespitosa into google you should get around 20,000 hits so yes it is well known. :smile:

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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19315235 - 12/23/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia is just italian for "solitary" (head) likely just a name an italian nursery created for a clone that tends not to pup and just grow a single large head.
Intelligentlife I agree that habitat locations are not variants HOWEVER some locations do have distinct growth patterns. (spiral, larger, ext.)


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: modern.shaman]
    #19315287 - 12/23/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have always thought the same with locations. You can get some variation between locations.
I have a number of packets of loph seeds at the moment that are all labeled with localities so it will be interesting to see if there are many differences when I sow them.

I cant believe I missed the solitary / solitalia when I had researched it before because a plant was advertised as a solitalia. :weirdeyes:

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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: GoOnThen]
    #19315791 - 12/23/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know differences well, just said they're still not actual variants of peyote, just same species grown elsewhere someway at isolated population.

So it means only "solitary" like I think so.. So it's probably any single head peyote possible.

But it's understandable there is different growth patterns and so on and there is different habitat populations around, it's relatively high area of desert where peyote grows or so.

And yes google is best way to find out are there lots of search from it. I was not find much with "solitalia" but I figure out it's probably "solitary" like said there means it's plant with solitary head for long before it starts to pup, in english language. I have seen google is very good tool to find out.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19316947 - 12/23/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldnt buy anything thats being named by some cacti grower as myself. People will name their cuttings and put a price so high and glorify themselves. Enter zircon.

Anyways, I'd go with some seed and get seed from different localities. If you need help just shoot me a :pm:


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19317869 - 12/23/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



Here is a pic of the solitalia.

16.7cm is how big it is.  Could anybody hazzard a guess on how many years it took to grow that big?



This is the caespitosa.

10.7cm.

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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19319357 - 12/24/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

monkeybus said:


Here is a pic of the solitalia.

16.7cm is how big it is.  Could anybody hazzard a guess on how many years it took to grow that big?



This is the caespitosa.

10.7cm.

Thanks folks.




Not very solitary if ask me and its pretty old.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: ferrel_human]
    #19319421 - 12/24/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A caes will only flower from the mother button and only after a couple of years.
The caespitosa has yet to flower so that means it is a young cacti, the other one is an old, old cacti and it's very beautiful! :smile:


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: Pestile]
    #19319631 - 12/24/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds about right, the first one is priced at 200USD, the second at 40.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19319685 - 12/24/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Then the solitary plant may have a few offshoot buttons if price is that high for one loph. In other words, it's old and probably have offshoot buttons aswell.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19319708 - 12/24/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

monkeybus said:


Here is a pic of the solitalia.

16.7cm is how big it is.  Could anybody hazzard a guess on how many years it took to grow that big?





It makes a huge difference if the plant was / is grafted or not.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19319713 - 12/24/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

monkeybus said:
Is it active?





This part got me wondering: are you planning on splashing 200 dollars on that plant to break it apart? :|


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: LSoares]
    #19319737 - 12/24/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The cactus will most likely outlive me.  Just like to know what I'm growing.

Still, 200 dollars is nothing.  I'm surviving the worldwide economic crisis.


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Re: Lophophora williamsii v.solitalia [Re: monkeybus]
    #19319801 - 12/24/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The cactus will most likely outlive me.  Just like to know what I'm growing.

Still, 200 dollars is nothing.  I'm surviving the worldwide economic crisis.




Me too. I spent that and not even flinched. But think about that for a minute. You buy it just to eat it? Go with a good columnar like T. bridgesii if you wanna trip.

Buy the loph, harvest some seed and grow a multitude of buttons. For your own enjoyment or for dinner.


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