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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: quinn]
    #19269152 - 12/13/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. Actually totally. It's just the way it is for most women. We are animals and the basic shit don't change no matter how uptight westerners are required to get about it.


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19269311 - 12/13/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

first saying there is some obvious natural order when it comes to humans is bs imo, we are the weirdest animals on the planet

prescribing inherent traits based on little more than genetalia is pretty silly.. people made similar arguments for maintaining social privilege based on skin color, not long ago at all :ohwell:


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19270039 - 12/13/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What about the Tao? The natural flow of everything how it is? The way is equality. Your blah blah requires a lot of laws, lawyers, government meddling and the result for most women is that they become slaves to shitty under paid jobs.

The natural home is the real location of happiness and meaning.

Woman that opts out of the natural order rely on lawyers and politicians for protection, there is no love here. The woman who is Tao has a real man to protect her and she has love. A man who keeps himself strong, healthy and brings home a wage needs a tidy home and a woman to come home to, otherwise he lives in a mess or has to pay for a housekeeper. Naturally a woman really is only happy if she has a home to keep, children to raise and a man to pleasure.

Some higher intelligence, high self esteem woman kicking ass doing what ever else is fine, but why does she think all other women should be like her?




Have any peer-reviewed sources to back your claims here?


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Icelander]
    #19278473 - 12/15/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Then why have police and security guards?





Good point, we shouldn't have them people should be responsible for their own self-defense. Look at the power police have over people and they way they abuse it due to having been given the status as protector. A protector can easily become enslaver.


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: lines]
    #19278507 - 12/15/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Then why have police and security guards?





Good point, we shouldn't have them people should be responsible for their own self-defense. Look at the power police have over people and they way they abuse it due to having been given the status as protector. A protector can easily become enslaver.




In my opinion that only works with a relatively low population density, our system of civic patrol men also allows one to break out of cronyism and embrace a more individualistic lifestyle.
Overall I think its a more efficient model for the individual as it allows you to pick and choose your acquaintances rather than spend a lifetime under the umbrella of the clan (whoever they may be).


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19313033 - 12/22/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like someone just finished his first semester of freshman philosophy.


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Dip41ea]
    #19313607 - 12/22/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sounds like someone just finished his first semester of freshman philosophy.




Meaning what?


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Rahz]
    #19314742 - 12/23/13 05:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Meaning that if you have to ask you must have just finished your first semester of freshman psychology. :haha:


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Icelander]
    #19315077 - 12/23/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Meaning that if you have to ask you must have just finished your first semester of freshman psychology. :haha:




Meaning what?

:spock:


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Rahz]
    #19315254 - 12/23/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Meaning half of one or six dozen of the other. :nicesmile:


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Icelander]
    #19315689 - 12/23/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well okay then. :crankeyclaus:


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Rahz]
    #19318738 - 12/23/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Meaning that is hackneyed argument.  There may be some truth to the idea in terms of historical development, but it is a gross exaggeration to say that chivalry "enslaves" women.


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Re: Chilvary Enslaves Women [Re: Icelander]
    #19318837 - 12/23/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Meaning half of one or six dozen of the other. :nicesmile:




Still laughing at this..

"Chivalry" exists  because men need to see their women and children survive.  Feminism is the poison.  Exaggerated masculinity is the poison.
What would women do without the imperative to have and protect children?  What would men do without the imperative to protect their children and their mother?  We would not exist.


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