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Icelanders Xmas Message * 3
    #19314713 - 12/23/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19314778 - 12/23/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

exactly ! any human being is innocent
that is how only the theistic ones that lives through those reflections and by direct communications with creative forces are never innocent nor beings nor even humans actually, they don't admit the simplest fact of conscious, being existing ... for them there is nothing and especially no individuals, just them and their god who loves them to give them to be forever .. as they are so special you know ... so superiors to all humans.. we are nothing to them but inferior bodies minds that cant appreciate divine things.. for them we must be slaves to get enslaved for slavery eternities life .. so like we have to admit being slaves only hoping to reach their pity to our inferior condition.. so they can get higher by giving us some leftover that we must be greatful about it as even dirt is divine for us according to them of course,  training us to get used to such relationship with eternal livings

it is really how they think, nothing else
it is not easy to say what can give them bigger wings.. but I think it fits right in this thread

but any human being is innocent, because he must be real so within being true or living right .. the value of reality is to never be negative, reality by definition is through positive objective existence
that is how any human when he is real being cant mean to kill another or to destroy anything, it knows how it would get back on him out of all reality right fact in positive truth

so only the attitudes out of everything, meaning their life source being spiritual forces and powers, can think everything and anyone else as nothing at all, so in negative terms of facts existence


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19314888 - 12/23/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:




Party like it's Jesus' birthday!  :headbanger:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: birdland] * 3
    #19314903 - 12/23/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But with girls and drugs. :laugh:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19314914 - 12/23/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well put


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19314921 - 12/23/13 06:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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But with girls and drugs. :laugh:



Or in my case family and alcohol  :boring:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: birdland]
    #19315030 - 12/23/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

in my experience family and alcohol is a bit of a viscous solution


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19315079 - 12/23/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not familiar with the term viscous but it won't be anything too bad. I sometimes enjoy the lunches since it's all extended family and lots of people I don't see too often... And lots of good food and alcohol :smile2:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: birdland]
    #19315848 - 12/23/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup: I've nothing to do this christmas and won't spare a thought for the wicked or saintly. In that spirit I shall drink and be merry with the fools around me, indulging in all appropriate foolish conversation & invoking the spirit of Shakespeare (I like to imagine he was something like this).


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19316228 - 12/23/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:




God that chick has a nicesmile.  I can't wait to see her burst out in a nicesmile 5000x next year.  Along with humor what else is there?  :haha:

Go in peace yourself.  Or go's in war.



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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19316504 - 12/23/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

She's hot.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19316584 - 12/23/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

She seems more crafty than hot.



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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19316589 - 12/23/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well that's what makes her hot to a crafty guy like me.  :idhitit:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19316626 - 12/23/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Kratom addiction doesn't make you "crafty".

And don't be stealin' my material



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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19316792 - 12/23/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:




yeah :heart:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19316894 - 12/23/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kratom addiction doesn't make you "crafty".

And don't be stealin' my material







But it balances my chakras. :haha:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19317108 - 12/23/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:




Cheers to that, Ice.
Let humanity stand a top our flaming ship as it settles into the dark home of our abyss. :cheers:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Tropism]
    #19317272 - 12/23/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How do sheep in Mexico wish one another a Merry Christmas?



Fleece Navidad!


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Tropism]
    #19317567 - 12/23/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:




Cheers to that, Ice.
Let humanity stand a top our flaming ship as it settles into the dark home of our abyss. :cheers:





Right back at ya :chugbeer:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19318205 - 12/23/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability.
:nicesmile:




Pure wisdom, right here! :thirdeyeani:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Space Elf] * 1
    #19319556 - 12/24/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

tanks dooder :ruggedwink:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19319627 - 12/24/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:





How am I supposed to 'go in peace & be happy' if it's inherent in my nature to be negative, chaotic & destructive?

I think your right that that negativity is part of creation, so to find peace one would have to somewhat give up on creation, as anything you create or do or think will never bring about peace


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Chronic7]
    #19319659 - 12/24/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To the best of your ability sez I. :wink:  It's not all bad Chronic. Don't be a downer for the holidaze. :nono:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19319681 - 12/24/13 04:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can see how what I said could be construed as a downer but I honestly don't feel it is, if you see no effort can bring about peace then one can give up trying to bring it about, which paradoxically brings it about, just like to some people thinking about death is depressing whereas I find it liberating to see that everything will go the same way

Much love to you, have a good one!


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Chronic7]
    #19319768 - 12/24/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

be


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19319798 - 12/24/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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To the best of your ability sez I. :wink:  It's not all bad Chronic. Don't be a downer for the holidaze. :nono:




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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19319857 - 12/24/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I agree part of our nature probably from evolution has made us merciless and unforgiving adversaries to ourselves and the other species. A Necessity to have survived to this point in time.

Will be fascinating to observe how we handle the decentralization of power and  destructive potential technology will bring.

Turning the s witch off would be the ultimate peace. Cessation of all worry and suffering.


Edited by Jaegar (12/24/13 06:57 AM)


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19319919 - 12/24/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree part of our nature probably from evolution has made us merciless and unforgiving adversaries to ourselves and the other species. A Necessity to have survived to this point in time.

Will be fascinating to observe how we handle the decentralization of power and  destructive potential technology will bring.

Turning the s witch off would be the ultimate peace. Cessation of all worry and suffering.




Decentralization of power?  When does that start?


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19319938 - 12/24/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

One example would be the capability of anyone with a basic lab to engineer weapons of potential. Maybe not far from now 3d printing of biological agents as a example.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19319960 - 12/24/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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One example would be the capability of anyone with a basic lab to engineer weapons of potential. Maybe not far from now 3d printing of biological agents as a example.




Oh sure just print up some new virus.  Makes sense.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19319980 - 12/24/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't say new virus.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19320004 - 12/24/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I didn't say new virus.



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I didn't say new virus.




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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Chronic7]
    #19320011 - 12/24/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The Chronic said:
I can see how what I said could be construed as a downer but I honestly don't feel it is, if you see no effort can bring about peace then one can give up trying to bring it about, which paradoxically brings it about, just like to some people thinking about death is depressing whereas I find it liberating to see that everything will go the same way

Much love to you, have a good one!





Dood I was just kidding. :lol:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19320020 - 12/24/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't chide my dreams of a apocalypse it's all I have :p


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19320027 - 12/24/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't chide my dreams of a apocalypse it's all I have :p




It's already here.  Apparently you were sidetracked by dreams of 3D viruses out of your magical printer that you hadn't noticed.

Look up!



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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19320044 - 12/24/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

After watching that clip I want to print a gun to shoot myself.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19320067 - 12/24/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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After watching that clip I want to print a gun to shoot myself.




It worked.

Now for the programming.



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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19320072 - 12/24/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You hit a soft spot. Love that song ..


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19320076 - 12/24/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:



:nodofunderstanding:

I like this message. This is one of the coolest things I've read on the shroomery. You have a merry Christmas too, man.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19320082 - 12/24/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You hit a soft spot. Love that song ..




Yet hated the Rush classic.  Go figure.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: nooneman]
    #19320175 - 12/24/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
It seems quite obvious to me that the chaos/negativity/destructiveness in human affairs is more a reflection of what the "creative" force of the universe is than it is something personally negative about humans.  We are what we have been created to be and are a reflection of that creation.  Go in peace and have a happy Xmas to the best of your ability. :nicesmile:



:nodofunderstanding:

I like this message. This is one of the coolest things I've read on the shroomery. You have a merry Christmas too, man.





Thanks bro!:heart:


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Icelander]
    #19320240 - 12/24/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A caricature of random mutation.


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Re: Icelanders Xmas Message [Re: Jaegar]
    #19320256 - 12/24/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Jaegar said:
A caricature of random mutation.




Better tweek your 3D printer.


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