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first grow, let's hear your thoughts...
    #19314368 - 12/23/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well, this is my first grow, a lot of the cakes ended up with mushrooms that never really had a veil, but all in all I was pretty happy with it.  any thoughts or advice is much appreciated.

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two of the cakes, first flush:



second flush was mediocre...  did two 20qt tubs as well:

tub 1 pinning


tub 2 pinning



a few days later:
(tub 1)


before harvest


harvest, first flush, tons of side pins too...



damprid chambers...



second round of cakes at harvest, figured it out a little bit:







that's all for now.  how'd I do?


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19314373 - 12/23/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These pic's have what looks like raging trich on those cakes and fruits.

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a few days later:
(tub 1)


before harvest






Tubs look pretty good tho :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #19314386 - 12/23/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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they got seriously blue in some parts due to dehydration, really dry where I live, made a whole thread about it a while back....  I fucked up with the humidity and misting originally for the dry climate I live in, am quite sure it isn't trich although what do I know...

edit: thank you :smile: they turned out quite a bit better than the cakes with so much less maintenance.  really seems like the way to go...


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19314387 - 12/23/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These pic's have what looks like raging trich on those cakes and fruits.




They sure do...

I may be wrong but these shrooms don't look very uh..shroomy?  Isn't it weird that they have no veil and white gills?


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: hmmn]
    #19314395 - 12/23/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These pic's have what looks like raging trich on those cakes and fruits.




They sure do...

I may be wrong but these shrooms don't look very uh..shroomy?  Isn't it weird that they have no veil and white gills?




I assumed it was a genetic mutation as it only happened with cakes from one syringe it seems...  and I can tell you that they are quite potent, so I'm happy I guess...?  looked into the trich thing quite a lot and I haven't seen any sort of discoloration on the cakes that has spread or looked quite like trich, who knows though.  in the previous thread I was pointed in the direction of drying out, all discoloration is blue and many cakes were fixed by a good dunk. 

as far as no veil, someone recently posted in this forum with mushrooms that looked the exact same way as well. one of my cakes during the second round turned out entirely normal as well :shrug:

edit: this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19312541
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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19314406 - 12/23/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dunno those look green and powdery. Post a pic with better lighting?


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19314412 - 12/23/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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well, this is my first grow, a lot of the cakes ended up with mushrooms that never really had a veil, but all in all I was pretty happy with it.  any thoughts or advice is much appreciated.

two of the cakes, first flush:








Pretty good expect it looks like you didn't give these enough love.


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19314413 - 12/23/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I dunno those look green and powdery. Post a pic with better lighting?



nothing green and powdery on the cakes, first flush pictures do look a little strange with the bruising on the fruits, nothing on those cakes looked too bad though and the final product was great...  even the new ones got quite dry from neglect, but I will post some better pictures soon.  other than the blue, cakes smell/look/pin/fruit fine it seems...

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well, this is my first grow, a lot of the cakes ended up with mushrooms that never really had a veil, but all in all I was pretty happy with it.  any thoughts or advice is much appreciated.

two of the cakes, first flush:








Pretty good expect it looks like you didn't give these enough love.




thanks.  yeah, first cakes certainly suffered from not enough love, and even the second round are the same way after having to neglect them for a short time.

still a fun time though :mushroom2:


Edited by westthebest (12/23/13 02:07 AM)


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19314580 - 12/23/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:shrug: looking good to me nice fruits


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: twistedty]
    #19317226 - 12/23/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:shrug: looking good to me nice fruits



thanks :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19327273 - 12/25/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

despite me ravaging the sub trying to harvest side pins, the first tub is coming around for a second flush :thumbup:



edit: what kind of first flush should I be aiming for here using 20qt tubs w/ a 3-3.5" sub depth and MS?  got about 3.5oz dry off two tubs for the first flush, probably 2-2.5 off the first tub and 1-1.5 off the second :shrug:


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19327351 - 12/26/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Both of those are in range for ms. IMO you can probably expect to get a similar harvest off the second flush with less every flush after.

Looks like a good second flush to me :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19327608 - 12/26/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19347039 - 12/30/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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despite me ravaging the sub trying to harvest side pins, the first tub is coming around for a second flush :thumbup:



edit: what kind of first flush should I be aiming for here using 20qt tubs w/ a 3-3.5" sub depth and MS?  got about 3.5oz dry off two tubs for the first flush, probably 2-2.5 off the first tub and 1-1.5 off the second :shrug:




minus a couple that are out of the picture/already harvested:


:thumbup:

yet again however, a very large portion of the flush's weight is made up by side pins...  those things get massive, way bigger than normal pins in some cases :shrug: which is cool I guess but they look ugly as hell and they're a bitch to harvest obviously.  if I eliminated the side pinning, would the pinset on the surface of the sub come in stronger to make up for it?


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19347241 - 12/30/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

looks good over all. if you don't want side pins.Next time use a plastic liner in your tub to limit air flow between your sub and the tub walls.


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    #19347272 - 12/30/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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looks good over all. if you don't want side pins.Next time use a plastic liner in your tub to limit air flow between your sub and the tub walls.




used a white trash bag this time and they still came in pretty strong :shrug: I did tape the top of the liner to the tub all the way around though so I'm not sure it really shrunk with the sub the way it was supposed to...?


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19347288 - 12/30/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

don't ever tape it:cool:


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    #19347290 - 12/30/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah don't tape the liner to the tub, pretty much defeats the point of having it in there.


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    #19347322 - 12/30/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah don't tape the liner to the tub, pretty much defeats the point of having it in there.




ha sounds good I was starting to think that was the problem...  did it originally to prevent water pooling up in the bottom of the tub from misting the walls occasionally, doesn't seem that really matters though


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Re: first grow, let's hear your thoughts... [Re: westthebest]
    #19347333 - 12/30/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no its fine for that to build up till harvest time, some just drill a small hole in the corner


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