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your opinion on damprid?
    #19314169 - 12/22/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

recently purchased some damprid at my local target- having trouble finding silica gel desiccant and not really wanting to buy a nice food dehydrator- and made a few drying chambers using tupperware.  I have read mixed things about damprid, has it worked well in your guys' experience?  my climate has quite low RH so fan drying got them quite dry already.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19314253 - 12/22/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I fan dry mine for a day or so and then stick them in a container with damprid also for another couple.

Cracker dry in only a few days.

It's what I got until I get a dehydrator.....


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19314433 - 12/23/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It gets the job done. I don't know how dry your trying to get them but I assure you fan/damprid drying should suffice, aka prevent mold or decay


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: Us.Two]
    #19314441 - 12/23/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A few days to dry doesnt cut the mustard for me, my fridge would dry them faster


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: Us.Two]
    #19314442 - 12/23/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It gets the job done. I don't know how dry your trying to get them but I assure you fan/damprid drying should suffice, aka prevent mold or decay






bunch of holes poked in the cardboard.  :shrug:


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19314634 - 12/23/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Put them in a large Tupperware container.  Put a smaller Tupperware container inside with desiccant.  Put large containers lid on.  Put in fridge.  If you're really paranoid zip tie/rubber band some mesh over the top of the smaller desiccant container.  Gets them dryer than a food dehydrator IME with less oxidation.  Takes a little longer, but I'm ok with that.  Then go get some of the vacu-seal bags w/ the $9 pump and do it up.  Make a little desiccant pouch w/ some damp rid in a coffee filter.  Throw that in the vacuseal bag too.  Then toss it in the freezer for storage.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: crackacola]
    #19317210 - 12/23/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Put them in a large Tupperware container.  Put a smaller Tupperware container inside with desiccant.  Put large containers lid on.  Put in fridge.  If you're really paranoid zip tie/rubber band some mesh over the top of the smaller desiccant container.  Gets them dryer than a food dehydrator IME with less oxidation.  Takes a little longer, but I'm ok with that.  Then go get some of the vacu-seal bags w/ the $9 pump and do it up.  Make a little desiccant pouch w/ some damp rid in a coffee filter.  Throw that in the vacuseal bag too.  Then toss it in the freezer for storage.



how much damprid should I be using to dry a decent amount?  is what I have enough?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19317232 - 12/23/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

depending on how many mushrooms you plan to grow, a dehydrator takes up less room works much more efficiently and is much less of a mess, and you dont have to always buy new damprid


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19317241 - 12/23/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't like damprid because I wouldn't want it near any of my foods. I understand it to be identical to the rock salt that's used to de-ice pavement. It turns into a vile liquid.

Army navy surplus stores and amazon are decent sources of silica gel.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: fizzbin]
    #19317273 - 12/23/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It does turn into a nasty liquid

DehydrTor all the way


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: fizzbin]
    #19317291 - 12/23/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

in my experience just leaving them in front of the fan gets them dry faster than damprid. I just use damprid for storage.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19317301 - 12/23/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DehydrTor all the way




yep then load into ziplock bags and store in cupboard.

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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19317369 - 12/23/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

will my setup work until I can get ahold of a dehydrator?  really not wanting to spend the money if its not entirely necessary though...


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19317430 - 12/23/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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will my setup work until I can get ahold of a dehydrator?  really not wanting to spend the money if its not entirely necessary though...




ya it will work but if you get alot of mushrooms a dehydrator is a no brainer and will pay for itself compared to always buying damprid


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19318019 - 12/23/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

iv always ben a bit paranoid about dehydrators and los of potency but it sounds like a lot of people use them. im just wondering what kind I should get, or dose it matter.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19318029 - 12/23/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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iv always ben a bit paranoid about dehydrators and los of potency but it sounds like a lot of people use them. im just wondering what kind I should get, or dose it matter.




just the opposite actually, you want to get your mushrooms dry as fast as possible. dehydrators and a pcs are your best friend in this hobby


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19318033 - 12/23/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wutever gets hot n holds lots


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19318043 - 12/23/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19318364 - 12/23/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And one with a fan


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19318530 - 12/23/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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iv always ben a bit paranoid about dehydrators and los of potency but it sounds like a lot of people use them. im just wondering what kind I should get, or dose it matter.




just the opposite actually, you want to get your mushrooms dry as fast as possible. dehydrators and a pcs are your best friend in this hobby



how sketchy is it to use a dehydrator without temperature adjustment?  that's the only kind I can find locally, and if I ordered one right now I'd still be stuck with damprid for this flush


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19318538 - 12/23/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive ne ver seen one go up too high


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19318565 - 12/23/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318578 - 12/23/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

use a box fan :shrug:


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318581 - 12/23/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just found one with 5 trays and adjustable temp at Walmart for $45


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #19318594 - 12/23/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

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What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
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Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

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What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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tripdawg420 said:
use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 





Yea I was thinkin about that I think its just Psilocybin that degrades at like 107, and psilocin actually degrades much faster then psybin.

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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318701 - 12/23/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

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What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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tripdawg420 said:
use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 





Yea I was thinkin about that I think its just Psilocybin that degrades at like 107, and psilocin actually degrades much faster then psybin.

Use site to store shipping should be free.




even then it would be a few days...  after a couple days my first flush still isn't cracker dry, would my best bet be oven, dehydrator with no temp adjustment, or tupperware damprid chambers?

dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19319004 - 12/23/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19319007 - 12/23/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?




they work fine but usually burnout pretty quickly.  nesco fd-37 is good cheap fan powered dehydrator

i run my dehydrator at 160 and it does 8 racks in about 8-14 hours depending on how fat some of the fruits are


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19319117 - 12/23/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?




they work fine but usually burnout pretty quickly.  nesco fd-37 is good cheap fan powered dehydrator

i run my dehydrator at 160 and it does 8 racks in about 8-14 hours depending on how fat some of the fruits are



nice, thank you.  so it doesn't seem like a temp adjustable dehydrator is that important after all...?

also, out of complete boredom, I tried to make a sort of ghetto dehydrator out of box on its side, a small space heater, and a fan...  room thermometer in the box says temp is 110ish, rh is 16%...  eh?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19319123 - 12/23/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.


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Nice thank you for clearing that up guys.


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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?




eat some and find out :smile:. 4-5 days thats crazy


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19319144 - 12/23/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yup.  I always try to keep the air exposure down to a minimum.  That's why I prefer desiccant, but its whatever.  Use as much desiccant as it takes to keep it from turning into liquid.


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    #19319153 - 12/23/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant


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i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant




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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?




eat some and find out :smile:. 4-5 days thats crazy




will do soon...  but yeah...  I mean they are mostly dry even after a day or two of fan drying as I live in a really dry climate, but for the large fruits that last little bit to getting them truly cracker dry has been taking a while...

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i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant




no kidding, must be doing cakes.




20qt mini-tubs...  and its all I have at the moment so I'm trying :shrug: got quite a few tupperware chambers going


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19319188 - 12/23/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19319258 - 12/24/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I only dry my choice shroomies w/ desiccant (the way I described), rest goes in the dehydrator.  OP already got them mostly dry w/ a fan though, so it'll work for him.


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