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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19318538 - 12/23/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive ne ver seen one go up too high


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19318565 - 12/23/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318578 - 12/23/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

use a box fan :shrug:


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318581 - 12/23/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just found one with 5 trays and adjustable temp at Walmart for $45


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #19318594 - 12/23/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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cronicr said:
Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

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magickspore said:
What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19318628 - 12/23/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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westthebest said:
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cronicr said:
Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

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magickspore said:
What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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tripdawg420 said:
use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 





Yea I was thinkin about that I think its just Psilocybin that degrades at like 107, and psilocin actually degrades much faster then psybin.

Use site to store shipping should be free.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19318701 - 12/23/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

westthebest said:
Quote:

cronicr said:
Ive ne ver seen one go up too high




don't they operate at around 160-180 or something like that, w/o temp adjustment?

Quote:

magickspore said:
What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




I believe so but I've also heard people make the argument that this is for straight psilocybin,  and that psilocybin contained inside an actual mushroom degrades much less easily...? 

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tripdawg420 said:
use a box fan :shrug:





that looks like a great idea.  unfortunately my box fan just died a couple of days ago...


I know there's also the oven drying route...  although I don't have a terribly big fan, my oven doesn't go down very low even at its lowest setting, and I've seen a couple horror stories about oven drying despite many people saying it is alright...

edit: I can only find one without adjustable temp at my walmart, $40... 





Yea I was thinkin about that I think its just Psilocybin that degrades at like 107, and psilocin actually degrades much faster then psybin.

Use site to store shipping should be free.




even then it would be a few days...  after a couple days my first flush still isn't cracker dry, would my best bet be oven, dehydrator with no temp adjustment, or tupperware damprid chambers?

dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: magickspore]
    #19319004 - 12/23/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What's the temp psilocybin and psilocin start to degrade? Isn't it like 106 or 109 something like that.




over 300F


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19319007 - 12/23/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?




they work fine but usually burnout pretty quickly.  nesco fd-37 is good cheap fan powered dehydrator

i run my dehydrator at 160 and it does 8 racks in about 8-14 hours depending on how fat some of the fruits are


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19319117 - 12/23/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dehydrator with no temp adjustment seems terribly convenient but I don't want to be frying my shrooms, who has experience with one of these?




they work fine but usually burnout pretty quickly.  nesco fd-37 is good cheap fan powered dehydrator

i run my dehydrator at 160 and it does 8 racks in about 8-14 hours depending on how fat some of the fruits are



nice, thank you.  so it doesn't seem like a temp adjustable dehydrator is that important after all...?

also, out of complete boredom, I tried to make a sort of ghetto dehydrator out of box on its side, a small space heater, and a fan...  room thermometer in the box says temp is 110ish, rh is 16%...  eh?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19319123 - 12/23/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19319135 - 12/23/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice thank you for clearing that up guys.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19319140 - 12/23/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19319143 - 12/23/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?




eat some and find out :smile:. 4-5 days thats crazy


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19319144 - 12/23/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yup.  I always try to keep the air exposure down to a minimum.  That's why I prefer desiccant, but its whatever.  Use as much desiccant as it takes to keep it from turning into liquid.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: crackacola]
    #19319153 - 12/23/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19319159 - 12/23/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant




no kidding, must be doing cakes.


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: twistedty]
    #19319162 - 12/23/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F, while most dehydrators don't make it past 165F.

Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.

Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP, then store in a sealed container with some desiccant.



nice.  taking me about 4 or 5 days from harvest to get them cracker dry with fan drying and damprid :thumbdown: I imagine the potency loss is minimal though?




eat some and find out :smile:. 4-5 days thats crazy




will do soon...  but yeah...  I mean they are mostly dry even after a day or two of fan drying as I live in a really dry climate, but for the large fruits that last little bit to getting them truly cracker dry has been taking a while...

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i couldn't imagine trying to dry a tubs worth with desiccant




no kidding, must be doing cakes.




20qt mini-tubs...  and its all I have at the moment so I'm trying :shrug: got quite a few tupperware chambers going


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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: westthebest]
    #19319188 - 12/23/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: your opinion on damprid? [Re: cronicr]
    #19319258 - 12/24/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I only dry my choice shroomies w/ desiccant (the way I described), rest goes in the dehydrator.  OP already got them mostly dry w/ a fan though, so it'll work for him.


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