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karode13
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
#19280084 - 12/15/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The scarid fly(fungus gnats) should subside if you allow the soil to dry. Too many of them is an indication of excessive watering and lack of ventilation. Proper watering and keeping a clean growing environment is the best way to control them.
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: karode13]
#19280137 - 12/15/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm definitely going to cut back on the watering. I'll see how once a week goes. Last water was last thursday when I gave her the neem oil soil soak. I use a paddle pop stick inserted into the soil to gauge dryness.
As for ventillation, she sits near an open slide door with the fly screen closed so there is air circulation in the room.
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
#19311743 - 12/22/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whoever told me that my Salvia needed to be in the shade is a fool.
It's sitting next to the window at the moment and it's making a true grow spurt!
Awesomenessss..!
(I also water once a week)
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: GoldenEye]
#19312737 - 12/22/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the update GoldenEye.
I just gave mine a repot. I had a gut feeling that the soil medium was too saturated and waterlogged and even after some neem oil then bt treatment I was still seeing fungus gnats running about the soil so I took her out and put her in a bigger pot and made up a new soil mix: 2 parts cactus mix: 1 part normal potting mix: 3 parts perlite.
I got the idea for the cactus mix from observing how quickly it dried out after watering my new lophophora williamsii (peyote) and my stenocactus too.
I looked real closely through my old mix after transfer and the bottom half an inch was caked and really damp after 5 days from my last water. I also didn't see any fungus gnat larvae at all which I was surprised about... most likely the main problem seemed too be too much water (like a good number of people on this thread already mentioned). oh well, you live you learn Hopefully the roots are okay from this, I gave the visible parts a good once over and they looked okay, mostly white with the stain of dirt on them (of course).
One question... Should I hold off on watering her for a little bit after the transplant?
The root ball still looked like it was holding a little moisture so I'm thinking maybe hold off but some opinions on this would be good.
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karode13
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
#19313438 - 12/22/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Water it. It will help prevent any transplant shock and compact the soil around any roots. Not watering can leave air pockets, which can dry out root hairs. It 's good practice to water plants about half an hour before transplant anyway, your soil being wet won't matter.
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: karode13]
#19314259 - 12/23/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not sure about the cactus mix. Cactus mix is very low in minerals I think.
How is it doing?
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: GoldenEye]
#19314622 - 12/23/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cheers Karode, I did just that, gave her a decent water! I won't make the same mistake as far as too much watering again. I'll wait until she is damn dry before she gets any more watery goodness, ha ha.
She seems to be doing alright GoldenEye, she has been pretty droopy for the past week because of the water logged soil and pests. She hasn't gotten any worse so far and there is still new growth so she seems to be hanging in there...
As for the cactus/succulent mix, I cut it with some normal potting mix too (2 parts cactus to 1 part normal) so she should do okay. I found a decent amount of other threads around the net where it seems to be working for other people well.
Edited by MrMoo (12/23/13 04:19 AM)
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
#19314705 - 12/23/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair enough! I always figure that as long as there is growth, things might not be optimal but at least she should survive
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: GoldenEye]
#19319769 - 12/24/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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God damn. Just had a look at my sally to check on her,saw a fungus gnat flying around the soil then gently moved the top soil with a paddle pop stick and saw a little larvae around the centre section surrounding where the stem comes out... These little bastards are really hard to control. Neem oil and bti bacteria haven't seemed to get rid of them.
I dont want to apply any more water based treatment, not until I can dry out the medium completely (which I know will help kill off larvae too) so all I could think of was cinnamon powder mixed into the top soil dry to kill off any fungus and starve them without further drenching the medium. I definitely must have given her too much water to begin with (at most every 3-4 days when I first got her).
I hope the gnats and the excess water hasn't been too much for her. She seems to be fighting pretty hard and still showing new growth so fingers crossed. I can't think of much else to do but wait it out and dry the soil completely.
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
#20003027 - 05/17/14 08:11 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would love to see an update if you get a chance, assuming she is still well.
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