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SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished
#19312927 - 12/22/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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from reddit
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All,
As the last remaining moderator of the forum I feel it is my obligation to warn all of you that the DPR account might be compromised.
When the news broke about the arrests of Inigo and Libertas there was about a 12 hour period that we did not see DPR.
He eventually logged in and posted the following message to us:
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on December 20, 2013, 11:02:10 am - - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512
Right now it is still chaotic at best so I am not sure yet how to best respond long term. As a short term bit of caution both Libertas and Inigo are to be treated as hostile and all communications you receive from them must be forwarded to me immediately.
The weighting of Inigo being busted is that in my opinion many things do not yet add up but I believe the reports may be correct. Until the time I know any different or more evidence comes to light remember to think back and if there is anything that may further compromise anyone he may have had access to let me know.
Libertas's case is not supported by much other than rumors. As such it is unlikely this applies to him and it may be a case of bad luck he hasn't logged on for some hours but continue to also treat him as hostile.
Right now I myself have no reason to be offline for any period greater than 24 hours, especially now I am aware of the events above. If such time elapses (24 hours) where I do not appear online consider both myself everything associated with me compromised, even PGP signed messages should be treated with extreme caution. I will be wiping all my communications with all of you and so that may be used as a proof if you wish to verify me in the event something happens by using information only I would know.
This is going to be a testing time for us all and I do not know where it will take us, but everyone please be safe and godspeed. - - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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I would normally not ever divulge anything from our hidden forums but seeing as I feel this was our final order given by our leader we felt obligated to alert the community with something more than just our words.
As you can see that message was clear that if he was not online for 24 hours he should be considered compromised and it has been over 36 hours now since he last logged on.
We tried asking Defcon about this but he never responded to us other than a similar message like he posted in the discussion forum that DPR was okay, but we as staff, have no way to verify that.
Let me be clear this is not to sabotage DPR, or Silk Road - on the contrary it is to remain loyal the final signed order we received from our Captain. Seeing as he directly told us in this message to even ignore any future signed messages if that 24 hour period elapses we felt there was no other course than to follow orders and consider his account compromised.
I suggest removing any and all bitcoins you have in the market and to consider the website under the control of LE. Considering all that has happened lately, we (myself and ChemCat) felt this was our only course of action and we didn't come to this decision lightly.
I think for now our journey on Silk Road has ended - but there will be others and we did so many marvelous things.
Please spread this message everywhere and share with as many people as possible. I don't know how long it will remain up.
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Edited by longhair_Bri (12/22/13 06:31 PM)
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: longhair_Bri]
#19312946 - 12/22/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Synthe]
#19312950 - 12/22/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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its coming back online on the 28th didn't you read
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19313013 - 12/22/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nvm.. so is this for good or do they have a fighting chance to get the site back online
the article didn't specify
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: longhair_Bri]
#19313035 - 12/22/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i just logged on it seems to be working for me how about any body else?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19313098 - 12/22/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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for anyone freaking out unnecessarily here's the latest word on the fiasco from a mod on silk road
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It has now been over 24 hours since we last heard from our Captain. He is most certainly in grave danger.
As posted by Cirrus: Do not trust DPR2's PGP keys. Do not trust any communication claiming to be from DPR2.
As his second in command, I have very clear instructions as to what to do in this worst case scenario.
He appointed a successor before he began. You know who you are, and you know what to do. Consider this the signal.
I cannot elaborate on the specifics, but the marketplace is safe and in my hands until the Captain returns or his successor appears.
Given these shocking events, I am delaying Christmas Break for another 12 hours so that you may withdraw your coins if you so desire.
Make no mistake - Silk Road is not dead, the marketplace is not compromised, and it will return after the break regardless of how this plays out.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19313390 - 12/22/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This isn't a valid news source, maybe move this to the pub.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19313430 - 12/22/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: This isn't a valid news source, maybe move this to the pub.
what i said or what he said?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19313440 - 12/22/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just mean that "Reddit" is not a valid news source.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19313512 - 12/22/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: longhair_Bri]
#19314610 - 12/23/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We'll see, in the meantime we need some links of the new big deepweb sites. Who's going to take over if SR2 goes under? Who's taken over for BMR and SMP?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19314665 - 12/23/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: We'll see, in the meantime we need some links of the new big deepweb sites. Who's going to take over if SR2 goes under? Who's taken over for BMR and SMP?
I feel zero sympathy for anyone who gets ripped off by the next fly by night operation or worse joins some honeypot. Drug sites exist because of good reputation, something that is impossible for a site or vendor who has been around 2 weeks.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19315094 - 12/23/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: We'll see, in the meantime we need some links of the new big deepweb sites. Who's going to take over if SR2 goes under? Who's taken over for BMR and SMP?
TM and TMP
TM is down though.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: longhair_Bri]
#19315131 - 12/23/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It appears the situation has since changed.
Explanation of these shenanigans
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Synthe]
#19315614 - 12/23/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so silk road will remain?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19315767 - 12/23/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If any if it is true there is no way im doing any business if the admins are all going to start ratting. There is no point in losing more
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: niteman]
#19315893 - 12/23/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19317193 - 12/23/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: I just mean that "Reddit" is not a valid news source.
Technically, the Silk Road (2) forum is the source. But you can't exactly link to SR2 via clear web. And since this info is coming directly from SR2 mods, I would say it's a perfectly valid source for news regarding what's going on with SR2, specifically.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: CidneyIndole]
#19317712 - 12/23/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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whats with all the pessimism
they went down once yes but now that they're back up i doubt they can shut it down again
seeing as there's double jeopardy at work/play
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19317743 - 12/23/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leafing said: whats with all the pessimism
they went down once yes but now that they're back up i doubt they can shut it down again
seeing as there's double jeopardy at work/play
Apparently the original DPR, the one who is captured, knows the identities of several of the people running the site and could turn on them.
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/12/23/wtf-the-silk-road-2-0-dpr2-farce-explained/
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: my3rdeye]
#19317877 - 12/23/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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Repertoire89 said: We'll see, in the meantime we need some links of the new big deepweb sites. Who's going to take over if SR2 goes under? Who's taken over for BMR and SMP?
I feel zero sympathy for anyone who gets ripped off by the next fly by night operation or worse joins some honeypot. Drug sites exist because of good reputation, something that is impossible for a site or vendor who has been around 2 weeks.
And who do you think gives them a good reputation? Leech.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: CidneyIndole]
#19318952 - 12/23/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CidneyIndole said:
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DebuteMachine said: I just mean that "Reddit" is not a valid news source.
Technically, the Silk Road (2) forum is the source. But you can't exactly link to SR2 via clear web. And since this info is coming directly from SR2 mods, I would say it's a perfectly valid source for news regarding what's going on with SR2, specifically.
Quit with your bullshit you aren't a damn journalist lol.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19319423 - 12/24/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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how do we all know it's not the feds running version 2?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: CLIT]
#19320105 - 12/24/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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CLIT said: how do we all know it's not the feds running version 2?
Technically we don't, but most likely it was a previous mod or member (StExo/Defcon).
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it would be against the law since its entrapment.. have you all been hitting the tweak pipe or something have a little faith
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19322275 - 12/24/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I'm sure the feds wouldn't do anything fucked up
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19324538 - 12/25/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leafing said: whats with all the pessimism
they went down once yes but now that they're back up i doubt they can shut it down again
seeing as there's double jeopardy at work/play
That is not how double jeopardy works
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19324736 - 12/25/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leafing said: it would be against the law since its entrapment.. have you all been hitting the tweak pipe or something have a little faith
police can use entrapment all they want. if you read the indictment against ross they did just that to get him to pay for a murder for hire. and no they don't have to tell you their cops if you ask them either.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: goldenroad08]
#19325062 - 12/25/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leafing said: it would be against the law since its entrapment.. have you all been hitting the tweak pipe or something have a little faith
And besides, the sign already said it has arisen a by the FBI and their cohorts, lol...
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: niteman]
#19325140 - 12/25/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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niteman said:
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leafing said: whats with all the pessimism
they went down once yes but now that they're back up i doubt they can shut it down again
seeing as there's double jeopardy at work/play
That is not how double jeopardy works 
it's not?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19325225 - 12/25/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, I’m going to try to shed a little light on some things that should hopefully give you all a collective sigh of relief, put to rest some theories, and reveal my intentions. While doing so, I have to walk a fine line between personal OPSEC, maintaining the anonymity & privacy of others, and sticking to a commitment to respect that “behind the scenes shit” that sometimes has to be done.
It’s been about four days since the unfortunate arrests of Libertas, Inigo and SSBD. It’s been about two/three days since DPR2 has been heard from. It’s been almost three months since SR1 was shutdown and DPR1 was arrested It’s been about two and a half months since the new SR “setup” came into being.
I first publicly popped into the picture when these forums first went up, but my association goes back to way before that. I can’t get into details, but I’ve never been a mod/admin/developer/vendor/buyer on either SR1 or SR2, but I have been privy to quite a bit of the inner workings of both. I’ve seen a lot of cool shit happen, a lot of sad shit happen, and I’ve always had the community’s interests at heart. I have 0 financial stake in SR1 or SR2, but I do think Silk Road is perhaps one of the coolest fucking concepts of our life time. That being said, it’s time for a factual trip down memory lane folks.
Some of you are too young to remember (did I really just say that?!), but many moons ago on the original forum, DPR1 had posted a Job Hire looking for experienced developers/coders. People made some noise and bitched about how that would compromise the site’s security. But DPR1 had made a solid guarantee that anyone contracted to work on the site in a developer capacity would be in somewhat of an isolated environment, and they’d never ever have access to anything critical. And that’s exactly true. He did contract some work out, to two (I think) devs, and had them help him with the code. He never asked for their doxx (as he required from Administrators such as Libertas or Inigo) because they were never in any position to damage the site or do anything malicious. They weren’t able to push anything live, and were essentially just hired hands. DPR1 (Ross) controlled the actual live implementation. Libertas, SSBD, and Inigo WERE required to provide their doxx details to him as per his rules. Why they did that.. is a question they will probably be asking themselves a long fucking time. Cirrus and some of the other mods that came and went never provided any doxx information, as they were only forum moderators and had no power over the actual live, ecommerce valhalla known as Silk Road.
StExo was a prominent poster/member of the SR1 forum community (if you’re reading this Stex, drop a line sometime.. and share some of those gazillions in the Christmas spirit!) who was very, very well versed in security methods. He always provided some pretty solid security related guidance on the forums and privately. He’s pretty famous on the clearnet as well as “money launderer to the elite” or something.
Fast forward to Ocotober 2 2013 - Ross Ulbricht is busted, SR1 is seized and panic ensues. That day sucked ass! It’s pointless dwelling on the facts surrounding that, but I think it’s obvious now that Ross made some serious fuckups, and he cooked his own goose. Nevertheless, it’s sad how fate played out for him.
After the chaos that ensued that day, there was some behind the scene actions that brought about SR2 and SR2 forums: A couple of the contracted devs, some of the admins/mods, security gurus like StExo and Astor, and a few other close stakeholders/associates had some back&forth on how to move forward (if at all) and who’d have what role. Initially the general consensus was that Libertas should be “DPR2”, yet Libertas himself and a few others dissented that this would be a bad move as Ross had Libertas’s doxx and nobody knew if his laptop was encrypted or if he stored the doxx or wrote them down. (Obviously at this point everyone assumed Ross wouldn’t talk/plea.. and even in his initial court appearance he “disavowed all aliases”) But the fear was LE forensics would somehow decrypt or locate the doxx he kept on his administrators. The next contender up was StExo. StExo never “laundered SR’s money” as someone wrote on the forums. StExo once referred a Canadian money launderer to either DPR1 or the admins, and it’s likely DPR1 (Ross) had that person’s doxx, but Ross never got around to laundering anything(all the BTC was seized from his laptop), and StExo mentioned the last he heard from the Canadian was right after SR1 went down.. and then he just went off the grid. Stexo was a security genius though, so that option was also kicked around for being the new DPR. StExo declined because he said he didn’t need the money as he had made a fuckton of dough over the past few decades and didn’t really have the time because he was semi retired and wasn’t interested in meeting the same fate DPR1 did. The next contender was a prominent member of the SR1 community who was tech savvy and super into the whole libeteraian/freemarket/Silk Road forever school of thought. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. DPR2 was born, and agreed upon by all the members of this “high council” (pun intended LOL). Stexo and Astor vouched for his security/OPSEC bona fides, Libertas and company vouched that he had no record of buying/vending, and the nerds vouched that he’d be capable of administering a site. The next steps were how to get things up and running, and what to do in the event of another catastrophe
1)The coders went to work to build SR2, which took forever and was buggy as hell because they really did not have access to a majority of the database or code that Ross did. This is why it took SR2 so long to get up to speed and bug free
2) A plan was put in place to have a few “Sleepers” in the crowd. This was a contingency plan in the event of DPR2 or SR2’s capture/seizure. The key element was to be a “sleeper”, it had to be someone that Ross/DPR1 never had any doxx on. The job of the sleeper mods were to integrate themselves into the community, maintain a good reputation and gain respect/trust, never buy/vend, and only “be activated” if shit hit the fan. The “sleeper admins” job was to run the servers. They’d regroup and immediately either re-construct SR, the forums or both.
3) A plan was put into play to spread disinformation on the forums for LE/haters/trolls/competition and other nay-sayers. Psy-ops. Fast forward to now:
Because of (what we assume) is Ross’s cooperation (as mentioned in several news articles) and his attorneys strategy to resolve the case ASAP, Libertas/Inigo/SSBD were all nailed. Again another sad day. DPR2, for reasons I don’t think anyone can blame him, decided he would have to vanish, and the system that was in place will take over. This is something I don’t think anybody should hold against the guy. If you see over half your staff get busted in a coordinated worldwide swoop, you are not going to sit calm. You’re going to clean house and get the fuck out of Dodge. This week you’ve seen a few “sleepers” get promoted as moderators. You’ve seen a sleeper admin take over entire control of the forums and site. This can’t be stressed enough, the sleepers (mods and admin(s)) have absolutely 0 connection to Ross Ulbricht. None. He had no information/doxx on them, and they’re absolutely removed from his reach. This team was formed while he was sitting behind bars. Unfortunately, the last remaining vestige of Ross (or his laptops) potential damage were Lib/Inigo/SSBD. Cirrus and ChemCat have always been mods and therefore never had to hand over their doxx to anyone. Even DPR2 had no connection to Ross, and Ross would be unable to identify him as he was chosen later. DPR2 is smart however, and it’s very likely he’s halfway around the world by now. However, the first few days, everyone involved, had a responsibility to
A)Gauge the damage done by the recent wave of arrests B)Make sure the “sleepers” and backup mechanism were activated properly and with precision C)Play a round of psy-ops to protect DPR2 while he had enough time to wipe his slate clean
If you look at my old posting history, back to October, I always projected an image of “distrustful yet grudgingly accepting insider”. Close enough to people to know “where the skeletons are buried”, yet be (a bit TOO) vocal about SR2/DPR2’s decisions. Insider dissent. Perhaps LE would try to flip me? Perhaps I’d let something slip out of anger/spite to burn SR down to the ground? Or perhaps I was tasked to cultivate a certain image/trust/credibility and only show up when the need to gauge the response of any big change occurred.
When DPR2 vanished, I made a post that I will be shedding some light on the events. Behind the scenes, conversations were taking place on how best to buy some time for him to wipe his slate clean and also see just how deep the Libertas damage was. When it became apparent that the arrests were ONLY legacy arrests based on SR1 roles/activities, I decided to have some fun with the pys-ops portion of it. Notice how no moderator, nor Cirrus, not Chemcat, and not Defcon stopped me from any of my ranting and raving. Nothing I said got deleted. Nothing I wrote was confirmed or denied.
The decision to drop subtle and not so subtle hints that DPR2 is Astor, DPR2 is Stexo, DPR2 is Scout, to check your PIN# on the site to make sure BTC was still there was done to mind-fuck those who wish to see SR shut down and break the spirit of this community. I knew Stex or Astor or Scout etc wouldn’t mind because these guys were fucking good with security, they’ve been out of the loop/scene for several months, and they all rarely login here. Painting Defcon as DPR2 was icing on the cake.. since he’s clearly not, as he’s been around since mid November.. and DPR2 or anyone would have had no idea that a “new Admin” would be needed to pull off some fuckery since nobody could have anticipated Libertas/Inigo/SSBD’s capture.
Now that a few days have elapsed, it was time to tell the community to relax, take a deep breathe, and everything is under control. The “sleepers” (sounds like the Walking Dead) have taken full control of the forums and site (no palace coups, no fake-your-own-vanishing acts, no Sheep Market scams), DPR2 is long gone and hopefully safe and sound (or we’d have heard about it by now), and site is closed as was scheduled for Christmas weeks ago.. and will re-open as scheduled. Nothing skipped a beat.
The good news: SR2 site/forums is fully under control of the admins/mods The site works fine, and is only scheduled to be down for Christmas Nothing and nobody else is in danger as everything that went down was remnants from the original SR1 shutdown/arrests DPR2 by now is probably completely safe and won’t be in a cage for daring to stand up to a failed War on Drugs and it’s oppressive minions The bad news: We’ve lost Libertas/Inigo/SSBD The community had to sit in confusion as to what was going on and who was in charge and be subject to wild psy-ops (sorry.. but necessary evil!)
The best news: 1)SR will be back after Christmas as regularly scheduled 2)We’re gonna fucking win this thing I know this is a lot to soak in, but hopefully explains my cryptic “announcements” and other various confusing elements as to who’s in charge, is the site safe, etc etc
Theres a lot of stuff that had to be redacted from this essay as per OPSEC and SR’s policy, but know that everyone involved either overtly or covertly has nothing but the community’s interests at heart and love this place. *PS - No questions about my role. Can’t answer. I can say I’m not an “employee” or an undercover mod/admin. I’m just a friend with benefits. Ok.. seriously. Think of Harvey Keitel’s role in “Pulp Fiction”. Cool fucking guy, aint he?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
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look people if the site were compromised it'd be down.. and i don't mean down like now because its xmas i mean down like an fbi logo there instead of the website
ps.. the only risk goes to the vendors
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19327128 - 12/25/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm so glad as an "inner circle" or "friends with benefits" or whatever title you want to give yourself; I'm just glad you waste the fame on reddit and shroomery, lol.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19327180 - 12/25/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've seen entrapment all the time. That's how "they" catch YOU. Example: prostitute that look like stereotypical prostitute to lure guys in are really undercover. A real prostitute do not need to try to act like one.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
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huh.........?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: CLIT]
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CLIT said: I've seen entrapment all the time. That's how "they" catch YOU. Example: prostitute that look like stereotypical prostitute to lure guys in are really undercover. A real prostitute do not need to try to act like one.
than just use a po box.and tor. problem solved
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19327701 - 12/26/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just called you out, that's all bro.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
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leafing said: whats with all the pessimism
they went down once yes but now that they're back up i doubt they can shut it down again
seeing as there's double jeopardy at work/play
That is not how double jeopardy works 
it's not?
No it is not. Double jeopardy protects a DEFENDANT from being tried twice for the same crime or one that is deemed too similar to the original crime. It does not protect whoever is running the new silk road or silk road itself. Also it is not a right in every country as it is in the United States and Canada (constitutional right) so it may not apply in this situation anyway. Since Ulbricht has not been aquitted or convicted he isn't at risk of being tried again obviously. Here is a link to the double jeopardy wikipedia page just in case you don't believe me. Also feel free to ask the lawyer guy on shroomery for more info. The site is at just as big of a risk of being shutdown as ever if not more susceptible. Just because it has not been yet does not mean shit. Its not like we knew it was going to happen before. In conclusion you have no argument and anyone who does not take caution after two site shutdowns deserves losing their money when the feds come a knocking.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: niteman]
#19328164 - 12/26/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: ilus]
#19336948 - 12/28/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tormarket seemed very promising but it too went south with people's money. Sheep and bmr are of course down, bmr may or may not come back. Flomarket got compromised, there are lots of other new markets that sprang up. The best and most secure market I know of is called Agora. PM me for an invite because they don't take people off the street now, just by invite by those already registered.
SR has been seriously compromised and I don't know how much of this cops and robbers scenario is real and how much is guesswork or fud. Fact is the top people have left and you have to trust the top people not to steal your money and to stay safe. There is a hacker who has been able to hack into markets and steal coins. This is what happened to sheep, bmr, tormarket, and others. SR has been attacked, I'm not sure if the coins are safe there or not.
Agora is run by bitcoinfog which is a well known and trusted outfit. They are the only ones I trust right now. It is by invitation only.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Stonehenge]
#19337013 - 12/28/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can also contact people directly through on one of those sights and deal privately with an encrypted email, its safer imo if you've been dealing with the same guy for awhile.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19337790 - 12/28/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't believe my fucking eyes. You guys are gossiping like women. Shut your mouths.
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Gossiping.

The more the merrier, you think cops don't know about deep web business? Obviously they do
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19337937 - 12/28/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gossiping.

The more the merrier, you think cops don't know about deep web business? Obviously they do
I'm honestly gonna have to take Repertoire's side here, darkweb markets are plastered on reddit, they've had dozens of news articles written about them, everybody and their mother has heard of "that silk road drug site" by now. What you call gossip includes speculation, and the business of the online drug trade is certainly filled with speculation.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Synthe]
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just because people know about the site doesn't NECESSARILY mean its compromised.. sure it is a little NOW but with so many safe guards now being implemented i doubt we'll be seeing more errors in the future.[also i do think there is a double jeopardy at play here since the site isn't down]. just listen to the faith in the owners words as they speak to us and grab a little of that faith to hold on too..
again, if it were truly compromised it would be down
if they're are undercover on silkroad trying to sell then just buy from legitimate vendors; you know the ones with buyers ratings
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
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leafing said: just because people know about the site doesn't NECESSARILY mean its compromised.. sure it is a little NOW but with so many safe guards now being implemented i doubt we'll be seeing more errors in the future.[also i do think there is a double jeopardy at play here since the site isn't down]. just listen to the faith in the owners words as they speak to us and grab a little of that faith to hold on too..
again, if it were truly compromised it would be down
if they're are undercover on silkroad trying to sell then just buy from legitimate vendors; you know the ones with buyers ratings
~LEAFING~
I'm more referring to this guy offering invites on a public forum, not to mention on a front page post. I'm just blown away at the recklessness of it. I feel that admin should ban that type of shit when they hear it.
I mean am I coming out of left field here? I used to be doing this when I was underage and we all still called them MOM's (mail order marijuana), but shit went downhill because people wanted to brag about it.
Fuckin A, I thought we all knew the first rule of fight club.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19346127 - 12/30/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leafing said: just because people know about the site doesn't NECESSARILY mean its compromised.. sure it is a little NOW but with so many safe guards now being implemented i doubt we'll be seeing more errors in the future.[also i do think there is a double jeopardy at play here since the site isn't down]. just listen to the faith in the owners words as they speak to us and grab a little of that faith to hold on too..
again, if it were truly compromised it would be down
if they're are undercover on silkroad trying to sell then just buy from legitimate vendors; you know the ones with buyers ratings
~LEAFING~
I'm more referring to this guy offering invites on a public forum, not to mention on a front page post. I'm just blown away at the recklessness of it. I feel that admin should ban that type of shit when they hear it.
I mean am I coming out of left field here? I used to be doing this when I was underage and we all still called them MOM's (mail order marijuana), but shit went downhill because people wanted to brag about it.
Fuckin A, I thought we all knew the first rule of fight club.
I remember Moms and hushmail vendors on private forums. Those were the good ol days. Now the cats out of the bag big time but hey at least we got in while it was golden.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: ShroomDoom]
#19346143 - 12/30/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember Moms and hushmail vendors on private forums. Those were the good ol days. Now the cats out of the bag big time but hey at least we got in while it was golden.
Good old days sound pretty shitty, would much rather have a large thriving market than mickey mouse bs
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19346176 - 12/30/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lsd online plz :-)
Nothing in my area
Not sure about brainmagic will probably test one day
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
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I remember Moms and hushmail vendors on private forums. Those were the good ol days. Now the cats out of the bag big time but hey at least we got in while it was golden.
Good old days sound pretty shitty, would much rather have a large thriving market than mickey mouse bs
Mickey Mouse bs. What a cunt.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19352363 - 12/31/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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any arrests on silkroad besides mods and admins that you've people have heard of since its original launch?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: leafing]
#19352398 - 12/31/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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leafing said: any arrests on silkroad besides mods and admins that you've people have heard of since its original launch?
Yes. There are some articles posted on here, which mainly attribute to people's own stupidity. But they are here.
How does one go about getting a secure enough connection anyways? Like just using the browser doesn't make me feel safe or secure at all. Until I know I have an uncompromised line I don't really want to go any deeper.
Also, effort... Please show me the easy way, lol.
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19352459 - 12/31/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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leafing said: any arrests on silkroad besides mods and admins that you've people have heard of since its original launch?
Yes. There are some articles posted on here, which mainly attribute to people's own stupidity. But they are here.
How does one go about getting a secure enough connection anyways? Like just using the browser doesn't make me feel safe or secure at all. Until I know I have an uncompromised line I don't really want to go any deeper.
Also, effort... Please show me the easy way, lol.
There are a few tutorials on the shroomery, search engine should turn those up.
Some updates however: Bitinstant is offline, been offline for months. MtGox sucks cocks Google "PGP Cleopatra"
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19355028 - 01/01/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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DPR the second has vanished along with the codes to unlock bitcoins. That means they are operating on income and can't really pay everyone off until they make a lot more money. If the hacker strikes again they will be toast. Agora has top notch people on security, if they weren't the best they would have gotten bitcoinfog hacked already. I still have an invite code, pm for details.
An offshoot of bmr run by the former mods but not by backopy is called utopia and will open soon. I'm not sure if I trust it, the people are good but is their security good?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Stonehenge]
#19355518 - 01/01/14 05:14 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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the future is a lot of one-man TOR-shops selling drugs
the feds wont have time to bust your shop, and security is much easier security is guaranteed, unless you announce it from your own IP online
hope there will be a lot more shops like brainmagic google reputation will be their feedback, I trust google as much as SR i.e. google "brainmagic reddit"
torshop is opensource, takes 5mins to setup iirc
if you want to be 100% anonymous, take your laptop with you and upload your site to a server from a public wifi hotspot never do anything from home
DPR was smart about that, but he wasnt smart asking questions about his site on online forums in real name
you can start a tor shop on your laptop, phone etc. and sell your excessive LSD hits or 1/8th of weed leftover for a good price ;-) the penalty would be nothing if you got busted, and the risk of getting busted is close to zero just keep selling low profile(not sell too much) and the feds wont bother with your shop
when 1000 one-man tor shops open, the feds have lost the game, they might as well quit their job
there is a hidden tor wiki where you can announce the tor pages you host you can sell anything you want sell your beer on tor
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: lessismore]
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What TOR shops are you referring to because most of what I read says TOR shops are a scam. We may be referring to different things though. Could you elaborate whether you are talking about the Torshops service where you pay to set up a shop?
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: niteman]
#19355809 - 01/01/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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hmm I thought it was opensource.. but I cant seem to find it anymore
anyway, making a 1minute php script that saves a form on your TOR shell is easy for any hacker/programmer
anyone could make a tor shop in a few minutes if they had a shell and knew php or such just run the tor client
when you want to see what has been ordered just log into your shell remotely from a public wifi and fetch the addresses to send to (stored as files on the machine) your bitcoins should already have arrived in your walled by then
its a pretty good idea I must say ;-)
just log in remotely once a week and send your stuff to your customers
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: lessismore]
#19355843 - 01/01/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Hmmm very intriguing... I don't have those computer skills personally but I know some comluter nerds that might. I'm a quick learner anyway. You would probably need a dedicated web server though right? At first I thought you meant the torshops scam witb Eucanna and DeDope and such...
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Re: SilkRoad 2.0 appears to be finished [Re: Repertoire89]
#19357130 - 01/02/14 02:37 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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I remember Moms and hushmail vendors on private forums. Those were the good ol days. Now the cats out of the bag big time but hey at least we got in while it was golden.
Good old days sound pretty shitty, would much rather have a large thriving market than mickey mouse bs
Have having MOMs who have been around 10 years + with all happy customers really sucks. Still going strong because they didn't advertise. No bitcoin hassles and an acknowledgement that any encryption can be broken so why not do it on the clear web? Its a bunch of newbs now who think security is PGP when its just keeping your fucking mouth shut. No one gets busted for drugs online as a result of police hacking their IP. You get busted because you did an interview with Newsweek. Its easy to stay under the radar and get rich too. To get so big you have to hire people to package the drugs for you because you can't do 200 orders alone in a day. Eventually you sit at the top and do nothing. There are a few serious people who decided doing that is better than some one time rip off. You guys should have been asked your fav SR vendors for some contact info and set your own shit up. I guess people were just too paranoid. If you buy drugs off the next fly by night operation you are at extremely high risk to get burnt. Even if its your favourite old SR vendor the site owner could easily do it too. I wouldn't buy on drugs off the deep web for at least a year or more. Someone will rise from the ashes but good luck guessing who. Tell you right now the people doing it low key are the ones to find out about. Refer a friend and that's the only way in. Someone else mentioned individual vendor sites, best idea I have heard yet.
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You get busted because you did an interview with Newsweek.
Everyone knows why DPR got busted, and it has nothing to do with the interviews he's done.
You guys should have been asked your fav SR vendors for some contact info and set your own shit up. I guess people were just too paranoid.
What an absurd assumption.
I wouldn't buy on drugs off the deep web for at least a year or more. Someone will rise from the ashes but good luck guessing who.
You're a leech, keep waiting for everyone else to do the work. DPR brought the deepweb into focus for many who didn't know about it, gave them access to a freedom they should already have had and now he's taking the bullet for it. His job is done, the market is thriving and will continue to grow in the open where everyone can see it.
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