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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Murph]
    #19312546 - 12/22/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

weed makes me trip


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Murph]
    #19312547 - 12/22/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ac1dHeaD said:
yeah i prefer to smoke weed when im doing marijuana too




Throw some pot in there too and you're talking business.



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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Murph]
    #19312559 - 12/22/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah well my friend's dad's uncle in law smoked a joint and uhhhh like totally caught rubella and speaks with a serious lisp now..... still loves weed he just cant pronounce things so good.




Does he sound like Mike Tyson?


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Mike_yy]
    #19312583 - 12/22/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Torkie said:
I had a seizure on shrooms that i reckon was because i smoked too much weed. If i eat too much it feels like my heart is going to explode. I'm healing chronic fatigue atm, weed turns me into a emotionless psycho.

It ain't good for everyone. Naive thread. I used pretty much everyday for 17 years.



Naive thread? seems more like a naive post, by yourself.

you had a seizure because you smoked too much weed? why isn't anyone else having seizures...? why does Mushrooms exacerbate "symptoms of seizure" from weed; but not indicate any symptoms themselves of causing seizures? why only on Mushrooms does weed give you seizures?

it's more likely then anything that you got high, experienced a rush of serotonin or dopamine, (possibly from smoking the weed) and you "Thought" it was a seizure. or maybe you're already prone to seizures; maybe you should go see your doctor? you should if you're having seizures; tell him about your theory... he'll/she'll tell you about the fact of Cannabis increasing the seizure threshold in patients and it's why doctors sometimes prescribe weed as medication to people that suffer from convulsions.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19312609 - 12/22/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

weed can increase blood pressure which is no good for people a heart condition... also sitting upright really fast could kill said person too. WARNING WARNING DON'T SIT UP TOO FAST YOU MIGHT DIE

should be on every seat in every home, goddamn it.


PS: the compounds in the Cannabis plant, does NOT CAUSE SEIZURES; the potential compounds that can be picked up from the plant from the soil or area in was grown in, CAN however.

don't buy pot from a shoddy/uninformed source, and you're good to go. again not a direct action of the plant; just medical contradictions and just plain dangerous growing methodology.

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XLCaps said:
My dad was friends with a guy who always said he was super sensitive to weed and he thought he was allergic.

Smoked one at a party. Had a heart attack. Currently dead as fuck.



panic attack meets heart valve dis-regulation.

if he thought he was allergic, and was super sensitive to it, probably shouldn't have continued smoking it... oh the 70's.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19312612 - 12/22/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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Torkie said:
I had a seizure on shrooms that i reckon was because i smoked too much weed. If i eat too much it feels like my heart is going to explode. I'm healing chronic fatigue atm, weed turns me into a emotionless psycho.

It ain't good for everyone. Naive thread. I used pretty much everyday for 17 years.



Naive thread? seems more like a naive post, by yourself.

you had a seizure because you smoked too much weed? why isn't anyone else having seizures...?





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Legend said:
I know a few people who have gotten seizures from cannabis ONLY.

I've also known a couple of had heart attacks.








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it's more likely then anything that you got high, experienced a rush of serotonin or dopamine, (possibly from smoking the weed) and you "Thought" it was a seizure. or maybe you're already prone to seizures; maybe you should go see your doctor? you should if you're having seizures; tell him about your theory... he'll/she'll tell you about the fact of Cannabis increasing the seizure threshold in patients and it's why doctors sometimes prescribe weed as medication to people that suffer from convulsions.




Read my post, it was pretty descriptive. I said "i call it a seizure". Obviously it's not just a rush, i was unconscious and i woke up rigid and contorted. It's the only time i've had a seizure. This was years ago, i haven't dosed in a couple of years.

Anything else to rant about ?


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: underfliptown] * 1
    #19312614 - 12/22/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

To you weed isn't a big deal. For 4 years in which I smoked every day, weed wasn't a big deal. Since I've slowed my usage greatly while keeping up with psychedelics though, weed has taken a completely new form.. I learned weed has plasticity and can do many different things to you. I've had to give bud a 2 week break after it launched me back into the middle of a LSD trip I was on the day before. I can no longer smoke and study, smoke and socialize, smoke and then drink. So many things.. So I'm wary, as should everybody else who doesn't smoke daily anymore.

I don't care if people smoke daily, but it's just not for me anymore. I know this quote is usually attributed to harder psychedelics than weed but I think the quote "When you get the message, hang up the phone" is appropriate with bud. There's no point of me being high everyday anymore and so I smoke a couple times a week.. Don't try to make your subjective opinions applicable to everybody here


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Mike_yy]
    #19312622 - 12/22/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Torkie said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Torkie said:
I had a seizure on shrooms that i reckon was because i smoked too much weed. If i eat too much it feels like my heart is going to explode. I'm healing chronic fatigue atm, weed turns me into a emotionless psycho.

It ain't good for everyone. Naive thread. I used pretty much everyday for 17 years.



Naive thread? seems more like a naive post, by yourself.

you had a seizure because you smoked too much weed? why isn't anyone else having seizures...?





Quote:

Legend said:
I know a few people who have gotten seizures from cannabis ONLY.

I've also known a couple of had heart attacks.








Quote:

it's more likely then anything that you got high, experienced a rush of serotonin or dopamine, (possibly from smoking the weed) and you "Thought" it was a seizure. or maybe you're already prone to seizures; maybe you should go see your doctor? you should if you're having seizures; tell him about your theory... he'll/she'll tell you about the fact of Cannabis increasing the seizure threshold in patients and it's why doctors sometimes prescribe weed as medication to people that suffer from convulsions.




Read my post, it was pretty descriptive. I said "i call it a seizure". Obviously it's not just a rush, i was unconscious and i woke up rigid and contorted. It's the only time i've had a seizure. This was years ago, i haven't dosed in a couple of years.

Anything else to rant about ?


rant? i just posed some questions to you. your idea of "rant" is skewed.

i've had a friend take Mushrooms and pass out, or "white out" as i call it. i see it happen alot to people who are ON MUSHROOMS.

i'm QUESTIONING you, to determine if you just think it was because of the weed, just "because" of you have an actually logical reason to believe so.

i think i have my answer.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19312625 - 12/22/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
weed can increase blood pressure which is no good for people a heart condition... also sitting upright really fast could kill said person too. WARNING WARNING DON'T SIT UP TOO FAST YOU MIGHT DIE

should be on every seat in every home, goddamn it.


PS: the compounds in the Cannabis plant, does NOT CAUSE SEIZURES; the potential compounds that can be picked up from the plant from the soil or area in was grown in, CAN however.

don't buy pot from a shoddy/uninformed source, and you're good to go. again not a direct action of the plant; just medical contradictions and just plain dangerous growing methodology.

Quote:

XLCaps said:
My dad was friends with a guy who always said he was super sensitive to weed and he thought he was allergic.

Smoked one at a party. Had a heart attack. Currently dead as fuck.



panic attack meets heart valve dis-regulation.

if he thought he was allergic, and was super sensitive to it, probably shouldn't have continued smoking it... oh the 70's.



Of course. I wasn't trying to say the pot necessarily gave him a heart attack, I was just saying the whole thing went sour for him.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: OZA]
    #19312636 - 12/22/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm currently in a predicament.

I love marijuana. But I believe that if you ingest it, its much better for you than smoking.

My hubby and I have been daily smokers for about 4 years and just recently he has come down w some serious health issues. I don't know if the weed smoking caused his strokes or prevented them from being worse (we only knew he had them from a MRI)

I would like to believe that the weed prevented them from being worse, but it cant be proven. Hes also been told he could have a heart valve problem. Don't know the extent of that yet, but I know I also need to not forget his family history of heart problems.

I hate not knowing.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: OZA]
    #19312650 - 12/22/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OZA said:
To you weed isn't a big deal. For 4 years in which I smoked every day, weed wasn't a big deal. Since I've slowed my usage greatly while keeping up with psychedelics though, weed has taken a completely new form.. I learned weed has plasticity and can do many different things to you. I've had to give bud a 2 week break after it launched me back into the middle of a LSD trip I was on the day before. I can no longer smoke and study, smoke and socialize, smoke and then drink. So many things.. So I'm wary, as should everybody else who doesn't smoke daily anymore.

I don't care if people smoke daily, but it's just not for me anymore. I know this quote is usually attributed to harder psychedelics than weed but I think the quote "When you get the message, hang up the phone" is appropriate with bud. There's no point of me being high everyday anymore and so I smoke a couple times a week.. Don't try to make your subjective opinions applicable to everybody here




nobody should be smoking weed everyday, tolerance and insensitivity factors into play here, and you can start becoming more and more distant from your usual "sober state of mind" (obviously) which essentially contains the experiential and motivating premises in your day to day life.

the premises of your day to day life, CAN change if you smoke too much and all the time... that's why when most people stop smoking so much , they realize that they don't even like it (or like it for certain things they used to like it for) anymore.

and some for some people; the premises of their sober life don't alter that much from the premises and proclivities in their "high life"; hence they can get away with smoking more without feeling like they're "getting away from themselves".

weed is essentially a psychedelic... it gives you a picture or essence of what you want; but not exactly what you want; if that's what you're looking for... otherwise, it's completely and utterly up in the air, on what "effects" can be garnered from doing Cannabis; because without a reason or intent, there is simply physiological effects which can be entirely dependent on mood, stability, stress, and other factors of Homeostasis; and which can lead to extremely differing and unexpected results in a persons response to said changes in mood, stability, stress ect ect...

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XLCaps said:

Of course. I wasn't trying to say the pot necessarily gave him a heart attack, I was just saying the whole thing went sour for him.



i know, i was just stating in my reply to you a clarification, cause you gave a good example of how someone with previous contradictions in "medication" (ie allergy, heart problems, stroke ect ect) can interact with Cannabis, giving wildly unexpected results.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: underfliptown]
    #19312661 - 12/22/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I must have had over 100 trips and i've smoked a fuck load of weed. I'm telling you my opinion based on my first hand experience. I never stated any facts related to my seizure. It was always an opinion.



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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19312671 - 12/22/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
I'm currently in a predicament.

I love marijuana. But I believe that if you ingest it, its much better for you than smoking.

My hubby and I have been daily smokers for about 4 years and just recently he has come down w some serious health issues. I don't know if the weed smoking caused his strokes or prevented them from being worse (we only knew he had them from a MRI)

I would like to believe that the weed prevented them from being worse, but it cant be proven. Hes also been told he could have a heart valve problem. Don't know the extent of that yet, but I know I also need to not forget his family history of heart problems.

I hate not knowing.



Hopefully that works out in the end for you guys. Having people you love go through that stuff is rough, and scary.

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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Mike_yy]
    #19312686 - 12/22/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Torkie said:
People die from weed. Just not from acute toxicity.




Name one.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Murph]
    #19312697 - 12/22/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Murph said:
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Torkie said:
People die from weed. Just not from acute toxicity.




Name one.



Read my post.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Mike_yy]
    #19312703 - 12/22/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Torkie said:
I must have had over 100 trips and i've smoked a fuck load of weed. I'm telling you my opinion based on my first hand experience. I never stated any facts related to my seizure. It was always an opinion.







and i asked you questions,... never an opinion. see the difference here? i wasn't "ranting", i was implying that maybe you don't have all the answers. which you don't. which is why the questions there were posed, were posed the way they were. to illicit the proper response; which is ... "I don't know".

personal first hand experience tells me that all the "things" that happened to you, could be explained by panic attack induced by tripping the fuck out, while on Mushrooms & Weed. (not weed by itself)

which is strictly a mechanism of your own mental state, influencing your physiology, not the other way around.

like i said, i've seen a friend pass out from the tripshit that was going on in his head on Mushrooms;... and i've also seen a personal friend get such an impact of Dopamine from smoking a hit of vaped THC and having such a raise in blood pressure from going from sitting to standing to fast, that in combination; he end up passing out; and his body looked like he was seizing but he wasn't, his muscles just locked up as he fainted because he was sitting cross legged for like twenty minutes, on his ass, before he got up. (which btw is two entirely different situations; one is having a "Trip" the other was having an effect of the response to his body being bombarded with multiple "conditions" at once.)

all of that together caused him to essentially (and effectively) "white out".

Dopamine can be a powerful thing, not to be trifled with in certain situations, and having enough Cannabis smoked in a single bound is likely to result in a predominantly high amount of Dopaminergic transmission and nerve transduction, which in causality with other things that can boost, inhibit, or antagonize your CNS; can lead to these results.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19312720 - 12/22/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
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Murph said:
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Torkie said:
People die from weed. Just not from acute toxicity.




Name one.



Read my post.



Do you have any sources?


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: Soluminia]
    #19312728 - 12/22/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

he's talking about people who like Ryan Dunn (whatever his fuckin' name is) would get high, then go out from a spin on a shopping cart, and get ramshowed by a bus.

he said, "not acute toxicity".

just to be clear. i'm sure he doesn't want to have to explain, AGAIN, what he meant.


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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19312735 - 12/22/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Torkie said:
I must have had over 100 trips and i've smoked a fuck load of weed. I'm telling you my opinion based on my first hand experience. I never stated any facts related to my seizure. It was always an opinion.







personal first hand experience tells me that all the "things" that happened to you, could be explained by panic attack induced by tripping the fuck out, while on Mushrooms & Weed. (not weed by itself)








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Torkie said:
The seizure was a panic response, i don't think i would have had the same paranoid reaction if i wasn't so high. I used to smoke continuously because you don't realize how high you are and it feels good, but i pushed myself to a few scary reactions on it. I think the seizure was an extension of that.





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Re: Weed isn't a big deal [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19312738 - 12/22/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was replying to XL CAPS not Torkie


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