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Americans have little faith in science * 1
    #19311929 - 12/22/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

64% don't trust published findings by scientists. Thus are the results of a recent poll...

*drum roll, please!*

CONDUCTED ONLINE!


Of course, we see this same idiocy here all too often.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19311970 - 12/22/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So roughly 16% of Christians trust scientific evidence.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19311971 - 12/22/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

Link?
If true that's bizarre to me.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: cez]
    #19311976 - 12/22/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not really that big of deal considering around 80% of the population in the U.S. is Christian, and science is often thought to conflict with those beliefs by those believers. (Probably around 64%)


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19311989 - 12/22/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The people that have to deal with Americans the most are other Americans

:feelssadman:


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: falcon]
    #19312241 - 12/22/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can send you an image and it will likely look the same on your 'puter as on mine. That is very reproducible.

Your linked article mentions cancer studies, which by their very nature, are extremely difficult to do as it is nearly impossible to limit things to a single variable outside of a petri dish. This is not the fault of the scientific method.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 3
    #19312548 - 12/22/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your OP was not about the method but about trusting the published findings. I for one don't trust the vast majority of the mainstream reports about findings -- the second hand information that the majority of american's would be reading. I'd be part of the 64% if that's what they're referring to.

There are few outside of professionals within a specific field who read the actual research article in a journal. And I can't imagine 64% of those individuals don't believe it :lol:

But reports of findings in a newspaper? yeah, I have little faith


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: Kickle]
    #19312634 - 12/22/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:

At this stage I have almost no faith in anything.


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Edited by Icelander (12/22/13 04:48 PM)


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: Icelander]
    #19312664 - 12/22/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you put it all on black once, didn't ya?


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19312698 - 12/22/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

stellarshnap said:
The people that have to deal with Americans the most are other Americans

:feelssadman:




No my friend that is not sad, that is justice.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: Tropism]
    #19312743 - 12/22/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Tropism said:
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stellarshnap said:
The people that have to deal with Americans the most are other Americans

:feelssadman:




No my friend that is not sad, that is justice.




Yeah because being a first generation American of Russian immigrants, forced to deal with ignorance that makes my skin crawl, is "justice".


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19312755 - 12/22/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You got it. :thumbup:


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: cez]
    #19312777 - 12/22/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If true that's bizarre to me.

Nearly 50% of Americans actually believe that god created humans in their present form less than 10,000 years ago. Of these, most believe that the earth itself formed less than 10,000 years ago. Don't believe me? See it for yourself. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried. This is from a scientific poll done by Gallup last year.

THIS is bizarre.



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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: Kickle]
    #19313105 - 12/22/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Your OP was not about the method but about trusting the published findings




They sort of go hand-in-hand. Many ignoramuses (ignorami?) do not believe in evolution despite thousands of published papers.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science *DELETED* [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19315120 - 12/23/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Post deleted by Tycoda

Reason for deletion: I repeated claims that i have heard, but have no personal knowledge about.



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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: Tycoda] * 1
    #19315157 - 12/23/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."


The fact that these people can vote is terrifying.


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19315788 - 12/23/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."


The fact that these people can vote is terrifying.




Agreed.  That's why I support a benevolent dictatorship run by yours truly.  :hatsoff:


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19316286 - 12/23/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
I can send you an image and it will likely look the same on your 'puter as on mine. That is very reproducible.

Your linked article mentions cancer studies, which by their very nature, are extremely difficult to do as it is nearly impossible to limit things to a single variable outside of a petri dish. This is not the fault of the scientific method.




Spoken like a true believer.  "This is not the fault..."


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Re: Americans have little faith in science [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19316552 - 12/23/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

Your OP was not about the method but about trusting the published findings




They sort of go hand-in-hand. Many ignoramuses (ignorami?) do not believe in evolution despite thousands of published papers.




they can go hand-in-hand but more often I see people with no scientific background at all report the findings for the masses. the method is not scientific in the least, it is journalistic. and there is a big difference between the two especially in terms of generalization and understanding of statistics.


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