Home | Community | Message Board

Kratom Eye
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19284841 - 12/16/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Mmmmm, sweet pins.....



--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleV1rusH0st
¸.♥´´¯`•.¸¸.ღƸ̵Ӝ̵Ʒ
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/02/13
Posts: 900
Loc: Hyperspace
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19285090 - 12/16/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am so excited. I can't imagine how you are feeling.

Lookin good!


--------------------

"They are trained to believe, not to know. Belief can be manipulated. Only knowledge is dangerous." Frank Herbert


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJustinCord
New Guy


Registered: 12/09/13
Posts: 82
Loc: Somewhere in the desert
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19285118 - 12/16/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Damn that's looking good man. I've been up in the air in monotub vs sgfc for my first grow. I'm starting to really like the monotub.


--------------------
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
            -Hunter S. Thompson


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: JustinCord]
    #19285151 - 12/16/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

JustinCord said:
Damn that's looking good man. I've been up in the air in monotub vs sgfc for my first grow. I'm starting to really like the monotub.




I still haven't run my WBS jars, yet, but I am waiting for my agar to cool so I can pour some dishes.  Then I'm gonna do some clones, and some MS dishes....I think...

Thanks for the compliments!


--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19293862 - 12/18/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Update:

I saw this when I got home from work today:





I am going to set up one more tub with BRF cakes as spawn.  That will be my last brf cakes, I think, because I also saw this today:





--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedaltonvz
Stranger
Male


Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 104
Loc: North Dakota Flag
Last seen: 9 years, 10 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19293956 - 12/18/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SizlChest said:
Update:

I saw this when I got home from work today:





I am going to set up one more tub with BRF cakes as spawn.  That will be my last brf cakes, I think, because I also saw this today:








Nice looking grains!it does SEEM as though you didn't have enough spawn with your substrate!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: daltonvz]
    #19293986 - 12/18/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't.  I probably had like 20% spawn to 80% sub....it was kinda an experiment.  I am on my way, now, though.


--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleWilly Wonka
Medicine Man
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/14/11
Posts: 2,109
Loc: The Other Side Flag
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19294260 - 12/18/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The mushrooms look a little long and thin.  This is typically a sign that they need a little bit more fresh air.  How often are you fanning at this point?  Is it possible to set a small fan up somewhere in the same room as your tub.  If you use a fan to help with fresh air exchange it needs to be small and you need to make sure that it is not pointing at the tub but is just moving air around in the room that your tub is in.


--------------------
AMU



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedaltonvz
Stranger
Male


Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 104
Loc: North Dakota Flag
Last seen: 9 years, 10 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19294267 - 12/18/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used 50% cow manure, 30% verm, 10% gypsem, 10% poultry for added nitrogen and 50% spawn.




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19294277 - 12/18/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am fanning once in the morning and 3-4 more times before I go to bed at night, depending when I'm home.  The room has a ceiling fan on at all times on low pulling air up rather than fanning down.  Should I have the poly more loose?  The top holes are very loose, and the bottom ones are pretty tight.


--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedaltonvz
Stranger
Male


Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 104
Loc: North Dakota Flag
Last seen: 9 years, 10 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19294392 - 12/18/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

SizlChest said:
I am fanning once in the morning and 3-4 more times before I go to bed at night, depending when I'm home.  The room has a ceiling fan on at all times on low pulling air up rather than fanning down.  Should I have the poly more loose?  The top holes are very loose, and the bottom ones are pretty tight.




Do you have a hygrometer?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleWilly Wonka
Medicine Man
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/14/11
Posts: 2,109
Loc: The Other Side Flag
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: daltonvz]
    #19294610 - 12/18/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I might try to loosen the fill up a bit.  Have you harvested and printed those open caps yet?  They are totally ready for printing.


--------------------
AMU



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedaltonvz
Stranger
Male


Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 104
Loc: North Dakota Flag
Last seen: 9 years, 10 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Valyr]
    #19295696 - 12/18/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Valyr said:
It looks like it. Looks like he followed damions buket tek on that too :smile:. It says to save some of the substrate for a casing layer lol. Its been around that long :smile:.

Two things about that OP:
1. A casing layer is actually suppose to be a layer of non-nutritious material. Not coir.

2. Its been found that cubes dont need a casing layer. And id recommend against it actually especially if doing a bucket tech. Reason being that while the myc is eating up the sub that you mixed it with, the false casing layer ( i say false cause of the first thing) mostly sits there being all inviting and nutritious and shit for passin by motorists (hehe) and then also takes longer for the myc to work up through it once it does get there case its only been exposed to the underside of the layer instead of throughout the medium like mixing. Time is not your friend on bulk lol. When doing a bucket tech and indead true pasteurization aswell a key strategem is to "storm the beaches" so to speak and flood the substrate with as many little myc troops as possible as quick as possible so it just overwhelmes anything left behind before it has time to recover a toe hold.

The standard ratio of spawn to sub is usually 1:2, however I know of some tc's that like to go with a 1:1 and Im gonna be tryin that cause ive had probs with contams lately.

That being said, a thin casing layer of even just verm although true that it has been found to be unneccasry for cubes to gain robustness could still be used just for a layer of protection from the top and is usefull to keep track of moisture cause it changes color when it dries out. And being that it isnt nutritous it adds no time to colonization and mushies will just push through it so I dont see a down side :smile:

Hope this helps :smile:




I am going to politely disagree with you. I think a good 1\4 casing is always a good thought, helps make sort of a microclimate. I will be putting down mgmc and should turn out amazing!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: daltonvz]
    #19295715 - 12/18/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sterilized coir makes a great casing, most prefer 50/50 peat/verm though. and yes cubes don't need one but thats not to say they won't benifit from one, it gives you a constant and gaurenteed 100% rh on the surface of your sub


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineValyr
Con nulla non si fa nulla.


Registered: 05/08/13
Posts: 381
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: cronicr]
    #19306273 - 12/21/13 03:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

cronicr said:
sterilized coir makes a great casing, most prefer 50/50 peat/verm though. and yes cubes don't need one but thats not to say they won't benifit from one, it gives you a constant and gaurenteed 100% rh on the surface of your sub




I agree that its a good idea for the microclimate and rh control. Was just pointing out that its not a requirment like with some shrooms.

However we should point out AGAIN, coir is NOT a casing material. If you use it as such the spawn is going to colonize it or atleast try to. If you use sterilized coir your going to get a contam before the spawn can. A casing layer is a non-nutritient containing layer of material that mushrooms will force there way up through. Not that can be eaten and colonized by mycellium. This action of making tthe mushrooms force there way through the casing sorta works like weight lifting lol. It makes for a more robust mushroom. Casings arent needed for cubes cause there generally that robust already. Or thats my understanding of it anyways.

And not trying at all to single you out or anything chronicr just that I know I was confused in the begining about casing layers, what they were and what to use because of people improperly using the term in relation to materials that are actually just more substrate.


Edited by Valyr (12/21/13 03:53 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Valyr]
    #19306705 - 12/21/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Coir has been used  for years as casing material and sterilizing it isnt gonna make it contam.


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineValyr
Con nulla non si fa nulla.


Registered: 05/08/13
Posts: 381
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: cronicr]
    #19306882 - 12/21/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

cronicr said:
Coir has been used  for years as casing material and sterilizing it isnt gonna make it contam.




It was used as such yes and even is shown in rr's video's too i think... But again those videos are what? 10yrs old? Like with alot of things in this feild info about this gets outdated. A casing layer is seen as something different now. Just search the forums.

Yes coir is naturally contam resistant (resistant not proof) but sterilizing it weakens that resistance and makes it easier for contaminants to colonize and/or spread in it.

I only say this cause ive done it and my stuff contaminated and FrankHorrigan told me that sterilizing my coir was the main reason why. And rr explained why sterilizing it actually weakens the resistance killing off the beneficial microbes versus pasteurizing it.

And as stated earlier in the thread, when using more sub as a improper casing layer what happens is that the sub underneath all gets colonized and instead of fruiting up through a non nutritous casing layer it says "Oh hey more food" so instead of fruiting it continues to eat the coir "casing" layer wich takes alot longer than the mixed substrate did because it is only exposed to mycellium for colonizataion from one angle. The bottom. This lends alot more time for contaminates to get into your coir that hasnt even been exposed to spawn yet (the top) and throw on that if its sterilized chances increase multifold.

Just been my experience and what tc's have told me. As with most things in this feild though, nothing fails all the time and you can grow on just about anything with success if you do it enough.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Valyr]
    #19306928 - 12/21/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get ya and agree there are far better options but the main reason for the top layer is exposed grains that will dry out faster then the coir and the myc becomes dormant but lately nobodys using the top layer and getting great results without issue, pastywhite just did a complete sterile cvg grow and spitball and frank are taking a stab at it as well. Awesome to see how far this hobby has come along. When i first started we were using top layers and casing in aquariums with drip shields lol


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSizlChest
Padawan
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/13
Posts: 814
Loc: Texas Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 7 hours
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: cronicr]
    #19311081 - 12/22/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Welp, here's the results of the first flush:



Not a lot, but this did give me my first ego death on Wednesday night.  I am taking steps for greater yields, as I have these that are taken from larger, fast growing fruits...the pics are from a single fruit.  I took nine more last night of a different fruit, also.










--------------------
PrimalSoup's Tea Tek

"I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!"
"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19311639 - 12/22/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:congrats: great stuff man...great stuff


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: birdseed in a bucket RedHead 873 1 04/10/01 01:13 PM
by RedHead
* A dream about growing outdoors in buckets? TheShroomHermit 1,009 2 05/21/02 11:51 AM
by Baby_Hitler
* outdoor grow bucket. would it hurt to bring it indoors? eric_the_redS 1,115 9 06/08/03 03:19 PM
by jakeholman
* 5 gl. bucket users orangejuice 1,003 1 10/28/03 08:43 PM
by Zwieback0
* Jars too wet/Substrate too wet - Rye - HELP ahaig 5,036 7 02/10/09 09:29 PM
by kezrock101
* Re: Substrate Question
( 1 2 all )
Lallafa 3,235 24 04/27/01 10:43 AM
by Anno
* Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? liftedoff420 1,227 16 02/20/03 02:06 AM
by blackout
* Vermiculite/BRF... Can it be used for bulk substrate? ATWAR 2,639 8 01/29/03 06:07 AM
by ATWAR

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
4,786 topic views. 22 members, 169 guests and 50 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 14 queries.