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2bittoker
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What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite
#19311433 - 12/22/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been using this miracle grow fine grade perlite and my FAE has gone to shit. I usually used Therm-O-Rock course grade but some jackass keeps buying the home depot out where I usually get it. This stuff SUCKS and clumps way to damn easy, even after long drying. There's a lot of CO2 buildup and a promising first flush turned into stunted shrooms with fuzzy bottoms. (and split stems showing rapid growth - but the time it took was exactly the opposite. They were pins for 6 days )
Now I'm trying to find course/super-course/super-chunky perlite locally and Im running out of options. Lowes, Home Depot and Walmart only have miracle grow perlite. The local nurseries I've checked so far only carry fine grade soil mix perlite. There are two hydroponics stores in town, but I know at least one is watched by the local police drug task force profiling young people for buying equipment like grow lights and following them back to their house. I wouldn't feel comfortable going there as I know perlite can be used in marijuana cultivation, and thats what they watch for. The other one I don't know about and they are closed till after Christmas.
I dont know what to do, my second batch should be producing their first flush any day now and I dont want those mushies to suffer the same fate I'm fairly sure anything I order online wont show up till at least Thursday.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 2bittoker]
#19311453 - 12/22/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get a rain check......or have them special order you some.
HomeDepot.com has free shipping on orders over $35 I think......
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: PussyFart]
#19311722 - 12/22/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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phone a cab company and get them to pick up your shit from the hydro store
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: cronicr]
#19311949 - 12/22/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How could a police force possibly sit at a grow shop and investigate each and every customer going through there?
For something that isn't illegal, and would still require a warrant to search the premises, simply owning lights isn't the least bit criminal, I guess if you really need it, hit up the grow store
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#19312019 - 12/22/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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buy the stuff at shitmart and sift it through your colander dry first, it will get rid of the dust and smaller pieces. Do it in your garage or outside, that shit is dusty.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 1down5up]
#19312114 - 12/22/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Get a rain check......or have them special order you some.
HomeDepot.com has free shipping on orders over $35 I think......
Hoping to get it ASAP. As said, flush on second batch of cakes is coming in soon. Thanks though, I should probably just arrange for store pickup a few days ahead of when I know I'll need it in the future.
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cronicr said: phone a cab company and get them to pick up your shit from the hydro store
I'd still be really scared about doing that. The way I understand it works is the police follow you back to your house, then cold knock and ask about your purchases. If you refuse to let them search the house, they just go to a judge a say they smelled marijuana at the doorway. So they could just follow the cab back to my place.
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How could a police force possibly sit at a grow shop and investigate each and every customer going through there?
For something that isn't illegal, and would still require a warrant to search the premises, simply owning lights isn't the least bit criminal, I guess if you really need it, hit up the grow store
I can't disclose much details without giving hints away that would narrow down my location on the internet. I have had many friends who have grown and a few that have been busted. A couple people I know that got busted discovered through their attorney questioning the origin of the warrants for the search that their investigation began after local PD observed them buying large amounts of equipment at the hydro store.
This is not the store in question, but a good example of what the police do http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/pinellas-hydroponic-garden-shop-has-attention-of-deputies-searching-for/1204506
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1down5up said: buy the stuff at shitmart and sift it through your colander dry first, it will get rid of the dust and smaller pieces. Do it in your garage or outside, that shit is dusty.
Shitmart's stuff is miracle grow, or at least locally. Too much clumping and sits too dense for effective FAE. Fuzzy bottoms and stunted growth. Literally, looking at it, 10% of the perlite might be acceptable size. This crap is like sand, not the gravel therm-o-rock's size is.
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Edited by 2bittoker (12/22/13 05:02 PM)
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 2bittoker]
#19312120 - 12/22/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so find something other then perlite in the mean time, you can use just about anything i've seen rr say you can use wet paper towels for fuck sakes, just replace them every day or 2
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: cronicr]
#19312127 - 12/22/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can use a damp bath towel or even paper towels. Squeeze the excess water out of them and then lay the towels loosely in the bottom of the fruiting chamber.
Cotton towels will eventually start molding, so take them out and wash once a week or so. RR http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11138853#11138853
To answer the question, no you can't use peat moss in place of perlite. Wet peat moss will begin to grow green molds within a week or two. You want perlite.
An alternative to perlite if you don't have it is to simply keep some damp paper towels in the bottom of the fruiting chamber. The paper towels will evaporate moisture just as the perlite will, thus creating humidity. Replace them every few days to prevent the paper from growing molds. RR http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6089865#6089865
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: cronicr]
#19312190 - 12/22/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: You can use a damp bath towel or even paper towels. Squeeze the excess water out of them and then lay the towels loosely in the bottom of the fruiting chamber.
Cotton towels will eventually start molding, so take them out and wash once a week or so. RR http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11138853#11138853
To answer the question, no you can't use peat moss in place of perlite. Wet peat moss will begin to grow green molds within a week or two. You want perlite.
An alternative to perlite if you don't have it is to simply keep some damp paper towels in the bottom of the fruiting chamber. The paper towels will evaporate moisture just as the perlite will, thus creating humidity. Replace them every few days to prevent the paper from growing molds. RR http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6089865#6089865
Thanks
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 2bittoker]
#19312280 - 12/22/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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no problem
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: cronicr]
#19312486 - 12/22/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd still be really scared about doing that. The way I understand it works is the police follow you back to your house, then cold knock and ask about your purchases. If you refuse to let them search the house, they just go to a judge a say they smelled marijuana at the doorway. So they could just follow the cab back to my place. -----------
Just don't answer the door. You're not obligated to answer.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: sytar]
#19312533 - 12/22/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry, dude. They thought they heard a scream and that's why they had to kick down the door and check all the closets after discovering a dude in there who didn't answer the door.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: sytar]
#19312684 - 12/22/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sytar said: I'd still be really scared about doing that. The way I understand it works is the police follow you back to your house, then cold knock and ask about your purchases. If you refuse to let them search the house, they just go to a judge a say they smelled marijuana at the doorway. So they could just follow the cab back to my place. -----------
Just don't answer the door. You're not obligated to answer.
What the letter of the law says ^^^^
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Sorry, dude. They thought they heard a scream and that's why they had to kick down the door and check all the closets after discovering a dude in there who didn't answer the door.
Reality^^^ In addition, cops can snoop around the perimeter of your house, without warrant or probable cause. If they don't try to use extingent circumstances to enter without a warrant, they'll just tell a judge they walked around back and smelled marijuana in towards the back.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 2bittoker]
#19312692 - 12/22/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so get it delivered to your neighbors house when they aren't home, let there door get kicked in lol!
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: 2bittoker]
#19312740 - 12/22/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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2bittoker said: In addition, cops can snoop around the perimeter of your house, without warrant or probable cause. If they don't try to use extingent circumstances to enter without a warrant, they'll just tell a judge they walked around back and smelled marijuana in towards the back.
The saddest thing about this scenario is how mushrooms smell like marijuana but the shit would still probably hold up in court after all was said and done.
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19313308 - 12/22/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Besides the Tampa one, where I guess they used a camera on a pole (they have all this shit? for pot?)
the cops there must be total scum, but are you really this worried about it that you can't take public transportation?
get off, retransfer back, even put it in a backpack, how big is it?
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Re: What to do? Up a creek about where to buy coarse perlite [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#19313369 - 12/22/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fuck the police
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