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HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please!
    #19310430 - 12/22/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What would be the best humidifier for an average sized room?  I just want to bring my humidity up a bit in the room housing my monos, so I don't run into the drying/having to mist problems others are experiencing.  I bought a regular (white w/ the wavy openings for mist) vicks cool mist and it brought the RH up about 5%... Not good enough.  Can I use a warm mist humidifier since its not going into a GH?  Is their ultrasonic version worth it?  Other suggestions?


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310451 - 12/22/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't worry too much about the RH in the room, monotubs create their own humid environment.

But an ultrasonic in the room can't hurt.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19310581 - 12/22/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah.  I'm not stressing.  But my RH is so low at times that when I go to fruit my monos they might get dry.  My heater is going 12hrs a day here.  The rest of my house is at about 25 RH.  My fun room is at about 48 now w/ cool mist.  Should be ok but I'd like it in the higher 50's.  50-70 is best to keep contams to a minimum and I wont have to worry about anything drying up.  Including my chicks vag when I have to stay home to mist my monos.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310596 - 12/22/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah.  I'm not stressing.  But my RH is so low at times that when I go to fruit my monos they might get dry. 



Not likely....if the substrate was made to field capacity.

The humidity in my house is really low, and my 10 tubs do just fine.

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Should be ok but I'd like it in the higher 50's.  50-70 is best to keep contams to a minimum.



How do you figure?

Fruiting is not a sterile process, and low humidity does not cause contams.....contams cause contams.

If anything the higher RH would be more beneficial for contams to grow....but this is all outside the tub anyways, where it does not really matter.

The tub creates it's own humid environment in the tub.....so inside the tub is all that matters.

If the substrate is drying up, then mist it. There should always be tiny droplets of moisture on the surface of the substrate that are constantly evaporating off, creating humidity.

Keep that evaporation happening(with lots of FAE), and your humidity will be perfect.

New growers should focus less on humidity, and more on getting good FAE, which causes evaporation, which causes the humidity to rise.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19310611 - 12/22/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Right, but then you have to resupply that humidity before your first flush if too much is evaporating do to really low RH.  I fully understand the concept of a mono.  I've just never worked in such a low RH and I've been reading others' problems with low RH in the rooms housing their monos.  What is the RH in your room?  I don't want to have to be misting a lot.  That's the idea of the mono, like you said. 

I understand that fruiting is not a sterile process.  lol. I have to work and fruit in the same room though.  There is something about keeping your homes humidity between 50-70 that keeps mold spores down.  Any lower or higher and they are more of a problem.  Don't know the science behind it.  I used to think the higher your humidity the more likely you'd have problems too. But apparently that's not the case until you get past ~70. Anyway, getting my RH up a bit would be a win win situation.  Not to mention my skin is dryer than a mofo.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310617 - 12/22/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm really just looking for a recommendation for a good humidifier under $100.  I've read so many shitty reviews for just about every humidifier I've looked into and figured a lot of people on here have humidifiers that they run 24/7 and could recommend one for my fun room.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310625 - 12/22/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

a low rh isn't gonna cause too much evaporation, it can be dry ass desert air pushing through your poly it doesn't matter, if it was at field capacity you will sustain enough moisture for your first flush and your gonna dunk anyway, subs lose more moisture due to fruiting then evaporating


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: cronicr]
    #19310633 - 12/22/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool.  I'll quit thinking about it.  I'd just seen others on here that have had issues w/ drying in monos and had been instructed to raise the RH in the rooms housing the monos.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310642 - 12/22/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Right, but then you have to resupply that humidity before your first flush if too much is evaporating do to really low RH. 



If there is that much evaporation going on, the humidity is not going to be low....that is my point.....the more evaporation there is, the higher the humidity will be....the moisture is going right into the air.....the polyfill in the tub regulates the amount of air that comes into the tub(which helps with evaporation), and also holds the humidity in.

It is a completely self sustaining system if the polyfill is dialed in correctly, at least until after the first flush.

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What is the RH in your room?



Not sure, I never bother caring as I never saw a need.

My monotubs are self sustaining.......so was my SGFC.

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I don't want to have to be misting a lot.  That's the idea of the mono, like you said. 



Having high humidity is not a replacement for misting.....and monotubs should be set and forget, meaning there should be no need to add any moisture until after the first flush....this is why it is important to dial in your monotubs like a boss.

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Anyway, getting my RH up a bit would be a win win situation.  Not to mention my skin is dryer than a mofo.



Mine too...and my lips...and my nose.........

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I'm really just looking for a recommendation for a good humidifier under $100.  I've read so many shitty reviews for just about every humidifier I've looked into and figured a lot of people on here have humidifiers that they run 24/7 and could recommend one for my fun room.



I had a few of these in the past that worked just fine.....

http://www.amazon.com/Vicks-Ultrasonic-Cool-Mist-Humidifier/dp/B001FWXKLS


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19310698 - 12/22/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Right, but then you have to resupply that humidity before your first flush if too much is evaporating do to really low RH.  I fully understand the concept of a mono.  I've just never worked in such a low RH and I've been reading others' problems with low RH in the rooms housing their monos.




You're missing the point.

Humidity and substrate moisture content are two totally separate things, even though the latter causes the former.  Moisture is supposed to evaporate from your substrate.  This is the number one pinning trigger.  This evaporating substrate moisture becomes humidity, and you then adjust the density of the polyfill in the holes to control how much gas or air exchange you provide.

It's best for your own health and comfort to keep the indoor humidity in your home around 30% to 40% during winter. However, anything from about 15% and above will be fine for your monotubs or shotgun terrariums, etc.

Simply mist more to make up for it.  This isn't a 'problem' as some new growers report, but the way to get best performance.

One last point; those KAZ humidifiers from Vicks used to be OK, but they are next to useless for the last five years or so since they sent production outside the US.  You're lucky to get a 5% increase in a small room.  They used to give that much increase to a whole house.
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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19312222 - 12/22/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks RR.  Answered all my questions.

I understood.  Was just being as brief as I could with my sentences.  What I was getting at was that even if my substrate moisture was good, if the room's RH was so low it would pull extra moisture from the substrate. Increasing RH in the tub but also releasing extra out the FAE holes and ending up drying my substrate out faster.  I was just trying to avoid extra maintenance due to low RH in the room.  But now I know it will be fine.  That dry weather from up north seems to have passed anyway, so its all good now.


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: crackacola]
    #19312501 - 12/22/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just grab a damn evaporative humidifier made for a large room.



There is no such thing as too much humidity, and when you push a decent amount of FAE through your mono (like I do) you are going to see some issues at 20% room humidity. Here is what happened to a couple of mine this winter, prior to investing in that beautiful little piece of plastic up there:



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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19312521 - 12/22/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

uhhhhh what happened? it still looks better then any of mine? i see lots of moisture still?


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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: newera]
    #19312601 - 12/22/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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uhhhhh what happened? it still looks better then any of mine? i see lots of moisture still?




Extra dry around the short sides, where most of the FAE is coming in at.

Here's a close-up:



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Re: HUMIDIFIER FOR ROOM! 15x15ft. Help Please! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19313161 - 12/22/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah Frank.  Your thread is what made me start humidifying my fun room.  I have a couple weeks to sort it out, but I got my humidity up to 49 now, so I should be good.  And like I said, that dry/cold weather is gone now, so my ambient room RH should go back into the high 30s here. 

I'm going to pick one up regardless.  I have a baby on the way some I'm going to want one for the nursery anyway.  Just looking for a reliable one so I don't have to keep buying new ones.  Seems the Mexican made Vicks ones suck.  That sunbeam doing well for ya?  No leaks or other complaints?


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