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first grow ever gt
    #19310315 - 12/22/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So this was my first time attempting to grow shroomies. I'll give you the basics. Used brf tek. Using a sgfc. Got six cakes in that. Now into week two of them being in there. All of them are pinning but one cake has a cluster that seems to.be ready to pick. I'm not to sure. What do you guys think?



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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19310359 - 12/22/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anything guys?


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19310385 - 12/22/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:smbfacepalm:      :rules:

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Looks fine...be patient...more will come.

How often to you mist/fan them?


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19310422 - 12/22/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So this was my first time attempting to grow shroomies. I'll give you the basics. Used brf tek. Using a sgfc. Got six cakes in that. Now into week two of them being in there. All of them are pinning but one cake has a cluster that seems to.be ready to pick. I'm not to sure. What do you guys think?




Pick when veil is 2/3rds off or just fell off for max potency. Or you can wait till the spores drop and their weight goes up. It's up to you.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: snowfiring]
    #19310561 - 12/22/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if you wait the only weight that goes up is water weight, take some prints


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19310595 - 12/22/13 05:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they look alot like the GT i tried to grow a while ago, little fat mushies are great, im not a master at this but looks like your humidity is a little high. try to decrease this a bit and it may get rid of them brown streaks running thru there stems, still tho, your first attemp and its produced something, thumbs up


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: BasilBush]
    #19310599 - 12/22/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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im not a master at this but looks like your humidity is a little high.



It is not possible to have too much humidity.

100% is as good as it gets.

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try to decrease this a bit and it may get rid of them brown streaks running thru there stems



:facepalm:  Those are genetic.....


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19310609 - 12/22/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fair enough pal, like i said im no master , i do find dropping the humidity to like 95percent gives me  bigger and more healthier looking shrooms tho, its all about prefence init i like mine to be pure white with nice orange caps,

By the looks off your pics you know what your doing better than me so superkush89 ignore me and listen if notahacker420 has something to say lol


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: BasilBush]
    #19310616 - 12/22/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

what size jars did you use, that  last pic, the cake looks really flat?  You might be lucky to get a second flush out of that before the mycelium eats it all....


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: BasilBush]
    #19310618 - 12/22/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:smbfacepalm:
genetics/moisture in the sub give you bigger shrooms, just wanted in on the face palms:thumbup:


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19310947 - 12/22/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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genetics/moisture in the sub give you bigger shrooms, just wanted in on the face palms:thumbup:



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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: jsad316]
    #19311015 - 12/22/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I mist and fan about six times a day. I used 1/2 pint jars. I did have to smash them open because even though I used wide mouth jars they weren't tapered. That was the only real problem I ran into with this little project. I guess I got lucky. My concern was that my babies were shorties but the caps seemed to have opened already. I read you were supposed to pick it when the cap  starts to test . I  had no idea that in a matter of a day or two after pinning that a huge cluster fuck would appear and the  caps seem to have ripped already


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19311247 - 12/22/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They look too wet to me.



In my experience you don't need to mist when using a nice layer of perlite.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19311340 - 12/22/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I had just mist them before taking the pic. And I thought my shrooms were gonna look like yours, long and skinny but if you guys say they look fine then ill roll with it. I have a food dehydrator ready to dry these bad boys


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19311355 - 12/22/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In my experience you don't need to mist when using a nice layer of perlite.



This makes no sense.....are you putting a layer of perlite on your cakes?

We do not mist for humidity, we mist to replace lost moisture in the cakes.

We then fan out the chamber to promote evaporation of water off the cakes we just misted.

This helps re-humidify the chamber after fanning, and is also the #1 pinning trigger.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19311411 - 12/22/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah what he said lol. i know i'm a noob myself but you gotta give the babies something to drink. i think especially now since they are fruting


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19311833 - 12/22/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I never misted.  I think misting cakes is a bad idea.  I dont even coat the cakes with verm.  Just dunk them before going into fruiting chamber that has 2 inches of perlite.  It is all about making the cakes correctly, and fruiting temperature temp and humidity.  Original Poster is way to wet.  His fruits are water logged and it is stunting the growth.  Slow the mist down or cut it completely.

Dunk cakes in sterilized by boiling, then cooled covered, betweeen flushes and that is all you need to replace moisture. 





These pics are from about 10 years ago.  Stone age i guess =)


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19311873 - 12/22/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes, thats some old ass styles you got bro, misting the cakes is a great idea and it was ten years ago, 4 inches of perlite is better then 2, no need to sterilize your dunk water fruiting isn't a sterile process. just have to say it for the sake of the boards lol! but i can dig the stuck on old school stuff, if it works for ya it works for ya


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19311900 - 12/22/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am old school and I grew cakes for many years on end experimenting many ways.  I am long retired now but all in all, the key things i found where this...

Use good quality brown rice.  Get whole grain and coffee grind it yourself.  Do not use pre ground brown rice.
Make and mix your cakes properly.  Dry mix the ingredriants first then add water.
Don't roll the cake in verm or anything else.  Waste of time
Dunk the cakes in water before the first flush and between every other flush.
DONT MIST!  You are just adding water weight to mushrooms and making friendly environment for bacteria to grow on the fruits.
The humidity has to be perfect.  The mushrooms get water from the humidity, it is key.





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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19311948 - 12/22/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Make and mix your cakes properly.  Dry mix the ingredriants first then add water.



Mixing the water with the verm, and then adding the brf will make it coat the verm better.

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Don't roll the cake in verm or anything else.  Waste of time



No, it's not a waste of time.

The verm holds moisture, and creates a microclimate for pin formation on all sides of the cake.

It's just like adding a casing layer to bulk....it is not needed, but it can be beneficial....and with cakes in a SGFC it certainly is beneficial.

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DONT MIST!  You are just adding water weight to mushrooms and making friendly environment for bacteria to grow on the fruits.



This is terrible advice.

With the proper amount of FAE the cakes will dry out without misting them to replace the lost moisture.

Plus evaporation off the cakes/substrate is a main pinning trigger....evaporation of water off the cakes can only happen if we mist them, then fan out the chamber.

Your old school methods suck bro(no offense to you)....times have changed.....we can get better results nowadays.

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The humidity has to be perfect.  The mushrooms get water from the humidity, it is key.



No they don't, they get water from the moisture in the cakes.......

New growers need to focus less on humidity and more on proper FAE.

With lots of FAE comes evaporation, which in turn creates humidity.

Lots of FAE = Lots of humidity.

But the cakes will dry out with lots of FAE unless we mist them to replace the lost moisture.

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19311950 - 12/22/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19311966 - 12/22/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19312239 - 12/22/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Funny  that I look through all these pics of people growing like notahacker and i dont see results on cakes like i used to get.  Whatever works for you i guess.

After years of growing my method is consistent and solid.  Spraying fruiting mushrooms with water is a bad idea in my opinion.  There is no doubt the OP fruits are water logged from being sprayed. 


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: baraka]
    #19312325 - 12/22/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19312349 - 12/22/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19312424 - 12/22/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So this was my first time attempting to grow shroomies. I'll give you the basics. Used brf tek. Using a sgfc. Got six cakes in that. Now into week two of them being in there. All of them are pinning but one cake has a cluster that seems to.be ready to pick. I'm not to sure. What do you guys think?





Good Job bro I wish mmany more good grows upon u PS- Pick em before the veil breaks, your RH might be off as the caps look a lil off and stems hollow? Anyway good job


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19312450 - 12/22/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

stems are naturally gonna be hollow


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19312469 - 12/22/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

B+ and some other strains plus mutants as i gotta few, but my stems are solid


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19312549 - 12/22/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the ones in your sig look anything but solid, mushrooms enlarge there cells with water which is y they are naturally hollow when they mature, just like a balloon blowing up, this is not strain related


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: cronicr]
    #19312855 - 12/22/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously ma dude they were all solid, the penis looking one was like an ounce wet chea :shocked: Im nudden special way better grows on here


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19312870 - 12/22/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i know i know lol, just saying it's there natural growth cyclye to enlarge there cells and hollow stems aren't the end of the world or a sign that someones doing something wrong:thumbup:


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    #19313145 - 12/22/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah i know i know lol, just saying it's there natural growth cyclye to enlarge there cells and hollow stems aren't the end of the world or a sign that someones doing something wrong:thumbup:





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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19313284 - 12/22/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

jeez so many opinions. maybe i'll do a test and lay off the spraying on one of the cakes. but i'm still going to dunk and roll and mist and fan.i got this far without any problems, thank goodness, so i gotta stick to what i was doing i guess


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: PussyFart]
    #19313472 - 12/22/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I really can't stand people who are such nit pickers that when reading a post it is fairly obvious what the poster means even though the words they write could bring you to a different conclusion.  Notahacker is notorious for this.  So when I see him post something that is just wrong even though in its entirety is correct advice to give,  I just can't resist to call him on it.

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Plus evaporation off the cakes/substrate is a main pinning trigger....evaporation of water off the cakes can only happen if we mist them.
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This statement is just wrong. Evaporation of water off the cakes will happened as long as you added water to the cakes when you made them and they have not already dried out. By misting the cakes you insure there is water left in the cakes to continue to evaporate and probably increase the amount of evaporation.  But by saying that a cake that's never been misted will retain or transfer all of its water content to fruits without any lost to evaporation it nonsense.  However as wrong as that statement was,  the point he was trying to make was right on.  (As is the majority of his advice). I am not trying to say notahacker does not give good correct advise.  Because his information is for the most part reliable and correct into. He just always makes a point to point out instances just like this one.  He was giving the correct advise he  just overstated the facts  to help to make his point.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: shroomnub4u]
    #19313484 - 12/22/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i didn't mean to turn this into a whole debacle :rolleyes: lol

i still haven't picked them yet.i'm gonna do it tomorrow and i take pics of all the other cakes

i didnt mention that i'm growing these at a friends house so i dont see them all the time


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: shroomnub4u]
    #19313502 - 12/22/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just mist thers not a bunch of opinions theres barakas and theres the rest of shroomery and u up there quit talki.g about hacker like that or im all over you like trich lol..jk


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19313586 - 12/22/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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what size jars did you use, that  last pic, the cake looks really flat?  You might be lucky to get a second flush out of that before the mycelium eats it all....




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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19314250 - 12/22/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuuuuuucckkkk. I was just notified that the one cake dropped its spores. Is that cake ruined?


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19314285 - 12/23/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuuuuuucckkkk. I was just notified that the one cake dropped its spores. Is that cake ruined?




If you mean your mushroom no its not ruined, once the spores drop it's fine. The longer you let them grow the less potent they are though. Potency prime is vile 2/3rds off I believe.  Though I could be wrong as I'm still waiting for my first grow to finish :P

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Funny  that I look through all these pics of people growing like notahacker and i dont see results on cakes like i used to get.  Whatever works for you i guess.

After years of growing my method is consistent and solid.  Spraying fruiting mushrooms with water is a bad idea in my opinion.  There is no doubt the OP fruits are water logged from being sprayed. 




If it weren't for pictures I would think your trolling. Your cakes don't compare by even half to those rolled and misted.

I don't know where you found your methods from but there sadly terrible. I've spent days on this thread and your results are quite low compared to what I've seen from others.

Though I'm doing my first grow even I know your wrong.


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    #19315322 - 12/23/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Should I rinse them off and then put them in the dehydrator? Or should I take paper towel and dry the excise water first?


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    #19315468 - 12/23/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

don't rinse them just chuck them in the dehydrator


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    #19315770 - 12/23/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok. I'll post pics later when I get to see them. So will the spores affect the trip or just the taste


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    #19315778 - 12/23/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Fuuuuuucckkkk. I was just notified that the one cake dropped its spores. Is that cake ruined?




If you mean your mushroom no its not ruined, once the spores drop it's fine. The longer you let them grow the less potent they are though. Potency prime is vile 2/3rds off I believe.  Though I could be wrong as I'm still waiting for my first grow to finish :P

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Funny  that I look through all these pics of people growing like notahacker and i dont see results on cakes like i used to get.  Whatever works for you i guess.

After years of growing my method is consistent and solid.  Spraying fruiting mushrooms with water is a bad idea in my opinion.  There is no doubt the OP fruits are water logged from being sprayed. 




If it weren't for pictures I would think your trolling. Your cakes don't compare by even half to those rolled and misted.

I don't know where you found your methods from but there sadly terrible. I've spent days on this thread and your results are quite low compared to what I've seen from others.

Though I'm doing my first grow even I know your wrong.




Sorry not trying to mislead anyone.  Just the OP fungus is too wet.  Notahacker just came across as the know it all internet nerd and it rubbed me the wrong way.  Pictured comic book guy.

I grew out hundreds of cakes over 5 years.  I only have pics on shroomery of the beginning of it, and the pics still here are 10+ years old and not of even first flushes.  After a while my genetics got consistent as well as my flushes.  I see pics all over of crappy looking fungus.  Too wet, not enough air.  Like the OP

Doing tons of cakes, rolling them was always a pain and i never got extra yeild out of the cakes.  I always got about the same yeild regardless of rolling, misting, whatever (usually about a half ounce dried per half pint until the cakes shrivels into nothing).  Why do extra work if your end yield is not going to be any better.  You get to the point where there is no nutrients left in the cake regardless of rolling or spraying.


Here was some from my last grow ever.  I am set on psychedelics for life.



Mushrooms should look like this coming off of cakes.  Not fat waterlogged.

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    #19317477 - 12/23/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey I appreciate everyone's opinion. Especially someone who's been growing for years. No need to argue about whose tek is better. I have 2 more syringes, maybe ill try the non rolled non misting tek baraka is talking about on a cake or two just to see. But for now these first six cakes are going to be done the way I've been doing it.

Now for the update. I went and picked off the shrooms on the cake jizzed all over it self.
I also picked some off another cake in fear of them doing the same shit. I was able to wipe a lot of the spores of with a paper towel and stuck them in the dehydrator.

Also the ones I picked were mostly on the small side but the caps were more than 2/3 open so I wanted to take them put of there. Should they be that small?


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    #19317795 - 12/23/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sorry not trying to mislead anyone.  Just the OP fungus is too wet.  Notahacker just came across as the know it all internet nerd and it rubbed me the wrong way.



Lol haters gonna hate......

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Why do extra work if your end yield is not going to be any better.  You get to the point where there is no nutrients left in the cake regardless of rolling or spraying.



Sure, but do you want to get there in 6 flushes or 3?

That is the point, and just because you have not noticed a difference does not mean it in fact makes no difference...that was just your experience.....other thing come into play like your fruiting chamber, environmental factors, genetics, moisture content, etc.

Thousands of people over the years have proven that rolling in verm and misting them regularly is actually more beneficial than just letting the cake sit there and lose moisture for 2-3 weeks.(That is what happens when you have tons of FAE but do not replace the lost moisture.....the cakes dry out.)

If you have any pics of these "killer flushes" you got from not misting or rolling the cakes, we would all like to see them....this is supposed to be an educational site....so educate us.....your word means nothing.....pics/proof of concept means everything.....and I just proved my concept.

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Here was some from my last grow ever.  I am set on psychedelics for life.



Mushrooms should look like this coming off of cakes.  Not fat waterlogged.



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Seriously though, argue through pm or something. aint nobody got time for that. but i do got time for opinions on my pics and short mushies


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Hey man, short mushies are still mushies right?  I say good job:thumbup:


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    #19320689 - 12/24/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bro there fine, larger mushrooms tend to come in later flushes


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Bro there fine, larger mushrooms tend to come in later flushes



True my first flushes are skinny but plentiful, later flushes they get get fat & fewer. Until my new set a jars are fully colonized I got cakes & casings being dunked.


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    #19321745 - 12/24/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have 3 ccs left from this syringe, another gt, and an Argentinian. 12 new jars that won't make my cakes look flat. I'm curious about the argentina strain. i hope it isn't some crazy shit. there's not to much info about it on here


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    #19321858 - 12/24/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it's a cube, fruit it out and let us know. clone your favorites:thumbup:


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    #19322371 - 12/24/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah that old term cube is a cube. at least this is easier than growing mary. btw that is my girls ass in my sig. enjoy!!lol


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    #19322381 - 12/24/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i know a cubes a cube but there are distinct differences in some but the cube is a cube term is really for fruiting conditions and genetic capability.....and i am enjoying for sure


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yeah that old term cube is a cube. at least this is easier than growing mary. btw that is my girls ass in my sig. enjoy!!lol




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    #19323074 - 12/24/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

turd cutter lmao  :grin:

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    #19323459 - 12/24/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I never misted.  I think misting cakes is a bad idea.  I dont even coat the cakes with verm.  Just dunk them before going into fruiting chamber that has 2 inches of perlite.  It is all about making the cakes correctly, and fruiting temperature temp and humidity.  Original Poster is way to wet.  His fruits are water logged and it is stunting the growth.  Slow the mist down or cut it completely.

Dunk cakes in sterilized by boiling, then cooled covered, betweeen flushes and that is all you need to replace moisture. 





These pics are from about 10 years ago.  Stone age i guess =)




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    #19323464 - 12/24/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

theres also no holes there though, and his cakes/fruits are showing the effects


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    #19323500 - 12/24/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

everyone pretty much covered the issues youre having. but overall, for a first grow, id say youre on the right track! keep it up, and just make sure to continue improving. Id call this a success so far!

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    #19327255 - 12/25/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pick as they mature. In the first pic, there was one that I would have picked, and the rest I'd give like 6 hrs. Crazy looking GTs by the way!!

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    #19327277 - 12/25/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Funny  that I look through all these pics of people growing like notahacker and i dont see results on cakes like i used to get.  Whatever works for you i guess.

After years of growing my method is consistent and solid.  Spraying fruiting mushrooms with water is a bad idea in my opinion.  There is no doubt the OP fruits are water logged from being sprayed. 




Its weird but I got this misting thing that sucks at misting, and it would kinda spray the cakes instead. I actually found this worked well in conjunction with a good fan to induce evaporation, but I had to be careful not to overdo it. Even a few exa sprays could be too much (a few times I would see blue in the stems for a few mins after "misting)...but honestly even with this shitty k-mart "mister" my cakes turned out pretty decent and not any worse, maybe even better, than a friend who was just misting regularly). That said I tried not to ever aim for the cakes, and it would be similar to raindrops landing from the stream over the tops of the cakes, mostly landing on perlite but a good amount on the cakes too. But that's my own experience, and it wasn't on purpose, it was the only way I could "mist". I also found using a real fan (small kind, just popping open the FC and fanning all around for about 30 seconds) helped quite a bit. I always used them in conjunction.

Btw, even though the fruits in the first pic are good, why is the cake so flat? I see the other ones are fine, even though you didn't roll them. But the yields aren't bad, especially for a first grow. Last time I rolled and dunked every time, and didnt get much per flush (B+) but they flushed 12 times, decreasing in amount each time (from around 6g or so each cake down to one big mushroom per cake each flush).


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    #19327932 - 12/26/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the positive feed back guys. Fractal I did roll my cakes lol. And I think the type of jars i used made them look flat.


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Can i just store the dried ones in a zip lock bag? And what's the shelf life?


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Can i just store the dried ones in a zip lock bag? And what's the shelf life?



I use a cigar box and put a few silica packets in the baggy keeps em good awhile or if ya need to store em awhile awhile maybe use ya fridge. My boomers don't last long lol as soon as theyre dry its open season tripathon. Just make sure they are cracker dry before storing em bro


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I am old school and I grew cakes for many years on end experimenting many ways.  I am long retired now but all in all, the key things i found where this...

Use good quality brown rice.  Get whole grain and coffee grind it yourself.  Do not use pre ground brown rice.
Make and mix your cakes properly.  Dry mix the ingredriants first then add water.
Don't roll the cake in verm or anything else.  Waste of time
Dunk the cakes in water before the first flush and between every other flush.
DONT MIST!  You are just adding water weight to mushrooms and making friendly environment for bacteria to grow on the fruits.
The humidity has to be perfect.  The mushrooms get water from the humidity, it is key.









I might be out there, and wrong, but I gotta ask. Is that last picture actually yours? It looks very similar to the main page picture. BTW if science did not evolve, we would still be working with stone tools. Lighten up, the things that are being discussed have been proven to work more efficiently in the last 10 years. If you would like to come out of retirement and try a control to prove your point, we are all about it man. Thanks for sharing.

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    #19330671 - 12/26/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes it is the main page pic:thumbup: and its still a sad sight:frown:


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    #19333950 - 12/27/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I have about 4 1/8s so far. I split them up into that for dosage purposes. Have a couple of cakes still developing the first flush. The one that jizzed on its self seemed to stop growing. Is that normal? And also i have a lot of small groups of fruit coming from the bottom of the cakes.



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    #19334118 - 12/27/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome verm coat :thumbup:

Fruits that crawl under the bottom of the cake I've always left alone and end up having more substance than clusters from the side and crown just from their race to reach open air. I just leave them to do their thing. :smile:

When a flush ends is really hard to judge with a PF IMO. I just pick the fruits with tearing veils until the big bits are done growing, then pluck off the aborts and dunk.

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dose time? if by that you mean close to eating them i'm doing that tonight with a friend lol. splitting one of the 4 1/8s


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Fresh is, according to me, 3x as strong as dry specimens, and hits way faster and harder.

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I'm not doing them fresh though. maybe next time


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    #19340654 - 12/29/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

trip report: giggles, floor was moving, colors breathing. no crazy hallucinations tho. i guess it's time to step up and take a full 1/8.

anyway most of the cakes seem to be done with there first flush. i got two cakes left that him some pins that can still mature. once they are done i am gonna dunk them again.

i also inoculated  8 more jars (the right kinda jars this time lol)
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Everyone trips different, but I like it crazy intense. Like, writhing in fetal position alien abduction hideous clowns intense. 5-8g dry does it for me. :smile:


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are there any rules as far as spacing of cakes in the fc?


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I find it hard to concentrate on your questions with your gir's ass smiling at me like that.  I scroll up...read, then scroll down to write.:grin:

as for spacing, i dunno man.  That's not something i really read into.  A few inches in between should be ok...to get the cakes in and out..otherwise, i don't think it matters a whole lot.  Look at monotubs...fuckers are sometimes jammed to the gills.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19359615 - 01/02/14 04:57 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

lmao. enjoy it for now cuz i'm taking it down soon. i wanna try new teks but not sure which one


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19359853 - 01/02/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

go bulk man with rye or wbs.  I hear it's the shit.  Gonna try it myself as soon as this next batch of cakes is ready to give me some clones.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19360947 - 01/02/14 09:55 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

do i have to still make brf cakes fir those teks?


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19362667 - 01/03/14 10:08 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

no.  Bulk is different.

use this:

then read.  If you have any questions afterwards, shoot.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19362777 - 01/03/14 10:38 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Lol @ the search img. I'm new to bulk as well but you COULD do it with broken up cakes, in fact, since a lot of people on here like to listen to RR, I'm pretty sure he suggests trying that in his video.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Fractal420]
    #19362875 - 01/03/14 11:05 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

yes, you are right, he could use cakes if he wanted to.  I'm sure he could find a tek to show him how, I just thought he was looking to follow the bulk/wbs/grain teks...my bad.

Either way, that search bar is amazing :grin:


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19372817 - 01/05/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I'm well aware i can use the search bar lol. i was just hoping for some personal insight than having to sift through old threads. i was reading 3 or 4 of them and they all went off topic cause people can't just be civil and have to start arguments


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    #19373226 - 01/05/14 02:19 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: slushie9090]
    #19373367 - 01/05/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

healthy mushrooms shouldn't snap in half like that:crazy:


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19373918 - 01/05/14 05:13 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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I'm well aware i can use the search bar lol. i was just hoping for some personal insight than having to sift through old threads. i was reading 3 or 4 of them and they all went off topic cause people can't just be civil and have to start arguments




I hear ya, i know it gets frustrating looking through old threads man, but honestly, you will learn a lot more that way...you will learn things you don't even have questions for yet...so basically you're answering future questions for yourself while looking for answers in the present....confused yet?:crazy2:


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19385995 - 01/08/14 12:06 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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I find it hard to concentrate on your questions with your gir's ass smiling at me like that.  I scroll up...read, then scroll down to write.:grin:

as for spacing, i dunno man.  That's not something i really read into.  A few inches in between should be ok...to get the cakes in and out..otherwise, i don't think it matters a whole lot.  Look at monotubs...fuckers are sometimes jammed to the gills.



:rofl2: Enough room for them pin and you'll see bro, you can always switch em around as they grow cause fruits grow in the darnedest places. No real science to it I seen people stack cakes like waffles, I gotta mono of GT pinning I might post up. Spawned off 2 quarts of Rye Berry keep ya posted


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19386012 - 01/08/14 12:11 AM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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I find it hard to concentrate on your questions with your gir's ass smiling at me like that.  I scroll up...read, then scroll down to write.:grin:

as for spacing, i dunno man.  That's not something i really read into.  A few inches in between should be ok...to get the cakes in and out..otherwise, i don't think it matters a whole lot.  Look at monotubs...fuckers are sometimes jammed to the gills.



:rofl2: Enough room for them pin and you'll see bro, you can always switch em around as they grow cause fruits grow in the darnedest places. No real science to it I seen people stack cakes like waffles, I gotta mono of GT pinning I might post up. Spawned off 2 quarts of Rye Berry keep ya posted



Edit: Looks Im late to this party but you definitely try casing or spawning grain it just feels so much more civilized


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19407887 - 01/12/14 11:10 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

i gotta look into all this shit now. i dunked and rolled my original 6 cakes. lets see how the 2nd flush comes out. and i have 8 other jars that i inoculated about a week ago. all of them look good so far except one that hasnt showed any life yet. then again my syringe had 4ccs left. idk how i managed to inoculate all of them lol


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19409342 - 01/12/14 05:34 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

dude, why you get rid of pics early in the thread?  Security?  If it's file size...get your hands on a copy of Photoshop..anything newer than 7...the "save for web" option will let you save thousands of files without cleaning your storage.  Not only that, but mouse over will load your pics in a fraction of a second, instead of taking minutes.  Pm if you want to check it out...takes minutes to learn and i got no prob showing ya.

I'll keep watching as long as your sig pic stays :grin::wink:


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19409520 - 01/12/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

lmao. yeah i got kinda paranoid


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19409550 - 01/12/14 06:23 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

It happens.  Leave out the details.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/46

Give it a read man...will help


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: 1down5up]
    #19410759 - 01/13/14 12:16 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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It happens.  Leave out the details.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/46

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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19417832 - 01/14/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

well sadly 4 of my new jars had fucking green mold...i did something wrong not sure what. i have 4 left, hopefully they dont also show signs of contam


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19531498 - 02/06/14 04:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys it's been a while. I still have the 4 cakes in the jars. waiting longer this time to see if there's a difference.

A couple of questions:

How often should a change the perlite?

My original 4 cakes didn't have suck a great flush the second time around. Anything i can do differently maybe for 3rd flush?


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19531514 - 02/06/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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How often should a change the perlite?



There is no need to ever change out the perlite.....just keep it moist....resoak/strain it after every grow.


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19541788 - 02/08/14 09:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Hey guys it's been a while. I still have the 4 cakes in the jars. waiting longer this time to see if there's a difference.

A couple of questions:

How often should a change the perlite?

My original 4 cakes didn't have suck a great flush the second time around. Anything i can do differently maybe for 3rd flush?


My 3rd GT flush not pretty but they all like over 100grams Those 4 alone are alotta goodtimes, I just changed my perlite Espoma Organic 8 quarts of coarse perlite but it will stay good for a couple grows wash it with H202 then cold water, never let it get accumilate water like all soggy


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19691722 - 03/13/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

well the place i was growing them at got raided...my poor friend got locked up on 18 counts of blah blah blah. i didn't know he was selling coke...


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Re: first grow ever gt [Re: superkush89]
    #19691890 - 03/13/14 05:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't know coke sellers were that ambiguous.


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