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Velveteen
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Made me scared to get tonsil surgery
#19310310 - 12/22/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edited by Velveteen (12/22/13 02:10 AM)
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koods
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: Velveteen] 4
#19310316 - 12/22/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, Jesus is gonna waste his birthday doing magic tricks.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: Velveteen]
#19310320 - 12/22/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aww shit, and here I was planning to get mine taken out next month. Now I'm sceeeeeeerrrrrd.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: schwarg]
#19310327 - 12/22/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not to be insulting but the girl did seem extremely overweight for a 13 year old. I think maybe the complications had to do with her overall health. But on the other hand, she had her life in the hands of a terrible hospital.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: Velveteen]
#19310331 - 12/22/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kind of the wrong outlet to bring that up though.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: schwarg]
#19310333 - 12/22/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You know why this is a story? (I mean, besides the crazy magical thinking parents.) because this never happens. It seems newsworthy.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: LordSenate]
#19310337 - 12/22/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PedoPolice said: Kind of the wrong outlet to bring that up though.
Why?
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods]
#19310348 - 12/22/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I meant on the news page.. Because I feel its inappropriate to discuss that there. Certainly there could be other things factoring into the reason it happened but I would think there are better places to discuss that sort of stuff.. Not to mention that a few of the people on there didn't say anything besides saying her parents shouldnt have let her be so fat. Kinda shitty IMO
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: LordSenate]
#19310352 - 12/22/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh, I thought you meant here. Carry on.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods]
#19310353 - 12/22/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL.. Yeah, I don't think there is anything that people on the shroomery have discussed, ripped apart, analyzed and shit on over the years...
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: LordSenate]
#19310371 - 12/22/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You gotta wonder with the number of people that use this site, how often something from the news that is being discussed is actually personal to someone.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods] 1
#19310372 - 12/22/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Yes, Jesus is gonna waste his birthday doing magic tricks.
That's what I do
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: rulesq]
#19310380 - 12/22/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, get to Oakland and bring your good wand.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods]
#19310387 - 12/22/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right after this fucking hangover..
*mandatory Sunday talks, "NEVER AGAIN" etc.*
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: LordSenate]
#19310388 - 12/22/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: You know why this is a story? (I mean, besides the crazy magical thinking parents.) because this never happens. It seems newsworthy.
Yup. This one instance could, one could argue should, add comfort to getting your tonsils out. Have you ever heard of this happening? Despite being one of the most common surgeries, no less than trimming away part of your throat.
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PedoPolice said: I meant on the news page.. Because I feel its inappropriate to discuss that there. Certainly there could be other things factoring into the reason it happened but I would think there are better places to discuss that sort of stuff.. Not to mention that a few of the people on there didn't say anything besides saying her parents shouldnt have let her be so fat. Kinda shitty IMO
Yup..
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: rulesq]
#19310393 - 12/22/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now who's the smart one not drinking. Not rulesq
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Certainly there could be other things factoring into the reason it happened but I would think there are better places to discuss that sort of stuff.. Not to mention that a few of the people on there didn't say anything besides saying her parents shouldnt have let her be so fat. Kinda shitty IMO
Yeah shitty. People are shitty. Everyone should know by now that you don't read comments if you are not prepared to hear the absolute worst things you could ever imagine being said.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods]
#19310640 - 12/22/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really feel for the girls family but have they thought of the ethics involved with keeping their daughter hooked up to machines?
Here in the UK where we don't have insurance that girl will be using up vital resources which could be reallocated to pay for life saving procedures rather than prolonging someone's death.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: Mushroon]
#19310651 - 12/22/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushroon said: I really feel for the girls family but have they thought of the ethics involved with keeping their daughter hooked up to machines?
Here in the UK where we don't have insurance that girl will be using up vital resources which could be reallocated to pay for life saving procedures rather than prolonging someone's death.
Same thing here. Even worse, because this girl is in a hospital that is no doubt overcrowded. This is type of situation where you are forced to choose between superstition and practicality... Pragmatic actions must take precedence over someone's spirituality.
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Re: Made me scare to get tonsil surgery [Re: koods]
#19310732 - 12/22/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There seems to be a knee jerk reaction that doctors must do eveything in their power to keep someone alive, however, sometimes the kindest thing is to allow someone to slip away comfortably.
There is something called Quality Adjusted Life Years (QALY) which health economists use to tell us how many years of life would be added by a treatment. A year of perfect health is equal to 1.0 whereas a year of being bedridden would have a QALY of 0.5 i.e. a year of being bedridden is equal to half a year of perfect health. As soon as either the cost per QALY becomes to high or the QALY becomes too low then that treatment is not advised.
This will irk some people who say every life is worth living, but I would ask them if they would like to live for 10 years with a QALY of 0.1 where they are in constant pain and being fed by a machine?
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