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Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed?
#19309190 - 12/21/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh Addy... my first hard drug.
I know 90% of us have ADHD and that the other 10% are just running their doctor for Dexedrine spansules, so... lets hear it 
I personally don't find it to have any conventional recreational value but nor do I take it as prescribed. I take it on probably half of the days on any given month, but I find that when I'm taking it faithfully, I'm super productive and almost completely lose interest in recreational drugs. Is it like that for anyone else?
Now if I were scripted 90 Norco a month, I'm sure I'd have the opposite medication noncompliance problem
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309204 - 12/21/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're right, in my experience. It's weird for me to think about, because I love stims so much and I've always imagined that if I ever got scripted one I would always run out within a week, but I guess it makes sense. Even meth users generally burn out after a while and take a break for a few days before going on another binge. It's basically impossible to take a stimulant every single day. All the people I know who have been prescribed adderall/vyvanse/ritalin for a number of years have gotten tired of taking it daily and now only take it when they have to get a big project done, but when they do it they take a lot, like 4-6x their prescribed dosage.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309216 - 12/21/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's interesting, Morrow. Thanks for your input and perspective!
I could totally see myself slipping into that pattern, although I can't realistically see me ever more than doubling my dosage. Even just doubling it would keep me up for at least a couple days.
It's funny though; since I hardly ever take it nowadays, even a single 10mg IR Adderall will have me fairly "zoned", although 2 by 20 is my M.O. for a super productive 8 hours on my ass
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309217 - 12/21/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I miss adderall. It made me feel like a normal person. Helps me focus, and gives me social grace somehow.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309227 - 12/21/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: Oh Addy... my first hard drug.
I know 90% of us have ADHD and that the other 10% are just running their doctor for Dexedrine spansules, so... lets hear it 
I personally don't find it to have any conventional recreational value but nor do I take it as prescribed. I take it on probably half of the days on any given month, but I find that when I'm taking it faithfully, I'm super productive and almost completely lose interest in recreational drugs. Is it like that for anyone else?
Now if I were scripted 90 Norco a month, I'm sure I'd have the opposite medication noncompliance problem 
Have you considered that ADHD might just be extreme stress?
I got maybe 95% of adhd symptoms if I google adhd, and I was once at the psychiatrist who said I likely got adhd randomly
I always delay everything I do, do 10 things at once never finish one, find 10 excuses to delay everything I do, lose my keys/creditcard/socks the past 30 years of my life everyday almost and can only concentrate on reading 5mins at a time max usually
but it wasnt always as bad as now, seems I am very sensitive to noise i.e.
the system doesnt always know best I have never been able to read a full book yet, never made it past 1/4th of it in high school/uni, had to reread 100 times, can only remember if I read it 100 times, seems I only got a long term memory, no short term can read 10 pages and remember 5-10% often
after meditating it all improved :-) after eating healthy it all improved too
it is not gone, and my dad got all the same issues, but it has been reduced a small bit
when I smoked weed I would remember 100% of what I read, but without weed (never smoked weed till 25 or so) I would remember 10-20% max of 5-10 pages
without noise where I live I can concentrate almost like everybody else it seems but the slighest noise makes me completely unable to read even 5 pages and remember more than a few lines of them
then there is the issue of regular sleep too, Ive allways been doing everything last second the whole night if I sleep like everybody else did I might be able to remember my things that is stress too
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#19309266 - 12/21/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rbalzer said: I miss adderall. It made me feel like a normal person. Helps me focus, and gives me social grace somehow.
Same here. Problem for me is, I honestly don't have any problems focusing when I'm sober. I get my schoolwork and so forth done with no problem. I have a one-track mind. In fact I sometimes feel hyperfocused on that sort of thing to the point of being distracted from social reality. Adderall and similar stimulants- in their prescribed dosages- wake me up to social reality: they makes me talkative, they make me want to go out and be lively and exercise and party and engage in activities. The thing is, they don't prescribe stimulants for problems like mine. They say people like me are "depressed" and give us things like SSRIs and SNRIs, which help a little bit, but they don't do the same thing. I can't really say I'm mad because honestly, I think taking drugs in an attempt to solve problems of this type is an ultimately doomed plan, for reasons mostly due to homeostatic mechanisms.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#19309272 - 12/21/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rbalzer said: I miss adderall. It made me feel like a normal person. Helps me focus, and gives me social grace somehow.
I hear ya...
I've taken adderall and vyvanse a few times over the years just the few times I've come across people that have a script and are willing to sell a few of them....And holy shit, I can focus, I have motivation, I'm not perpetually tired and overwhelmed all day, I actually talk & converse with people, my thoughts flow into words with ease, my ideas flow into what ever it is I want to get done, all my potential seems to be magically unlocked and unleashed. I don't even get all that stimulated from the stuff, there is that underlying stimulation but I become very calm and lucid...everything just flows out naturally and isn't such a damn task, even talking is a task for me at times.
It's not something I'd want to take every day, only when needed. I can't wrap my mind around how & why it's prescribed as a daily medication. Wouldn't it loose it's "magic" and tolerance would build very quickly with taking it every single day?
What is the process for getting a prescription for such a thing?
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309280 - 12/21/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309303 - 12/21/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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im pretty sure I got it, all symptoms seems to fit 100% never been able to read a book my whole life, but when I smoked weed I could read 50 pages and remember 90-100% or so, really good overview
before no overview of even 5-10 pages, would read the same text on ½ page over and over again always got tired after 5 pages or 10 pages max
when I smoked weed I could have overview of the whole page at once, felt like reading the whole page at once instead of only the same line again and again
really bad concentration
but I am not sure I am willing to eat pills for it, my studies seem a bit affected sometimes I get As in the hardest courses , sometimes / much more often I get Fs in easier courses seems I have to use 3 times as much time for studying as everybody else, even though I have loved doing it all my life since I was 10, just about everyday since then
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309331 - 12/21/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I was prescribed it I tried to avoid taking it as often as I could. Hated how it would turn me into zombie and how easily I would get pissed off on it.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309333 - 12/21/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Same here. Problem for me is, I honestly don't have any problems focusing when I'm sober. I get my schoolwork and so forth done with no problem. I have a one-track mind. In fact I sometimes feel hyperfocused on that sort of thing to the point of being distracted from social reality. Adderall and similar stimulants- in their prescribed dosages- wake me up to social reality: they makes me talkative, they make me want to go out and be lively and exercise and party and engage in activities. The thing is, they don't prescribe stimulants for problems like mine. They say people like me are "depressed" and give us things like SSRIs and SNRIs, which help a little bit, but they don't do the same thing. I can't really say I'm mad because honestly, I think taking drugs in an attempt to solve problems of this type is an ultimately doomed plan, for reasons mostly due to homeostatic mechanisms.
The way you put that is exactly what it does for me as well....
The short while I was taking an ssri years ago, that stuff only made me more numb and dull.
And I'd agree with what you say about taking drugs to solve these sorts of problems, especially in regards to keeping the body/mind balanced and in homeostasis. But damn, it's like magic.
For the longest time I never suspected myself of having "adhd", because in my mind those with adhd were the kids that would be bouncing off the walls, hyper as all hell, never being able to pay attention and constantly going from one thing to another. While myself, I'm super quiet, damn near mute at times, the epitome of calm & passive, was always well behaved through out my years of school & growing up....but I'm just constantly immersed in my mind, in my own world, spacing out lost in though, or spacing out just simply observing the world around me. It's hard for me to actually engage with the outside world with things I really actually need to get done.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: openmind]
#19309334 - 12/21/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So true PCPPlease "Whuuuut?? You mean we're not evolved to spend 7 hours straight in a chair at age 6?!??!"
It's interesting that many of you successfully self-medicated with weed. I remember toking in the woods where I brought my books from class and I would just read and think how hilarious the shit was and remember most all of it... good times . TBH, I think that what made the difference is that I didn't get fucking baked--just enough to study.
Ironically, I feel I did so well in moderation when I didn't have to worry about it being allowed where I lived 
I also studied with the help from a beer or two as well and it worked SUPER fucking well
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rbalzer said: I miss adderall. It made me feel like a normal person. Helps me focus, and gives me social grace somehow.
I hear ya...
I've taken adderall and vyvanse a few times over the years just the few times I've come across people that have a script and are willing to sell a few of them....And holy shit, I can focus, I have motivation, I'm not perpetually tired and overwhelmed all day, I actually talk & converse with people, my thoughts flow into words with ease, my ideas flow into what ever it is I want to get done, all my potential seems to be magically unlocked and unleashed. I don't even get all that stimulated from the stuff, there is that underlying stimulation but I become very calm and lucid...everything just flows out naturally and isn't such a damn task, even talking is a task for me at times.
It's not something I'd want to take every day, only when needed. I can't wrap my mind around how & why it's prescribed as a daily medication. Wouldn't it loose it's "magic" and tolerance would build very quickly with taking it every single day?
What is the process for getting a prescription for such a thing?
-OM
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The #1 best thing to walk out with a script is to get your parents to come and vouch that teachers had always hinted you have ADHD (I discovered this one on accident).
I got my script because I admitted to "abusing it" (using it illegally) and ex-doctor asked how it made me feel/what I did on it )calm, focussed; study, get shit done) and he determined with help from my parents that I'd probaly always had ADHD.
Besides that, memorize the ADHD/ADD criteria in the DSM-IV/DSM-V and remember to answer their questions based on these.
I think I might honestly write a book called "Counter-Psychiatry" (as opposed to Anti-Psychiatry or Psychiatry) detailing this sorta shit.
Good luck
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309344 - 12/21/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of well written stuff I can relate to in this thread. Its making me pretty sad actually
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Soluminia]
#19309348 - 12/21/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Soluminia said: When I was prescribed it I tried to avoid taking it as often as I could. Hated how it would turn me into zombie and how easily I would get pissed off on it.
It's always interested me how much someone's perception of a drug's effect can be altered by their preconceptions about it. I also get pissed off easily on stims and could see how at certain doses it turns me into a zombie, but because of what I was looking for in the drug, I didn't focus on those things: I focused on how good it made me feel, on how much it helped me accomplish, etc. And for that I loved it.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309389 - 12/21/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I had no preconceptions about how it would effect me since I was 6 years old when I was first prescribed it. All I know was that it was a pill that I had take. However I was first put on ritalin then later put on adderall which may have played a role.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Soluminia]
#19309401 - 12/21/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Putting little kids on Ritalin should be illegal
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Soluminia]
#19309405 - 12/21/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, you probably had the preconception that it was some type of medicine rather than some type of recreational drug, if nothing else. If not, your lack of preconceptions is something to look at in and of itself, as opposed to, say, a preconception of it as a recreational drug. When I first took adderall, I was cynical about pharmaceuticals and associated it (too heavily) with methamphetamine, so I took it to get high, and that's what it did for me.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19309464 - 12/21/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: The #1 best thing to walk out with a script is to get your parents to come and vouch that teachers had always hinted you have ADHD (I discovered this one on accident).
I got my script because I admitted to "abusing it" (using it illegally) and ex-doctor asked how it made me feel/what I did on it )calm, focussed; study, get shit done) and he determined with help from my parents that I'd probaly always had ADHD.
Besides that, memorize the ADHD/ADD criteria in the DSM-IV/DSM-V and remember to answer their questions based on these.
I think I might honestly write a book called "Counter-Psychiatry" (as opposed to Anti-Psychiatry or Psychiatry) detailing this sorta shit.
Good luck 
I'm not hyperactive or impulsive what so ever though, actually the complete opposite of that...Teachers and other parents, and my parents, always commented at how calm, quiet, and well behaved I am. But I have much trouble with focus and getting things done, and lots of trouble with getting my thoughts out in a linear fashion (because I don't think very linearally, and thoughts go off in tangents easily, as some of you may notice with my posts around here )
My teachers would often comment how "spacey" and detached I was. I didn't pay much attention in school unless it was something that really pulled my interest, I'd be staring at the ceiling, counting things over and over, getting lost in patterns & textures of things in class, or looking out the window the entire day...But my teachers never cared or talked to me about it because in the end I always did well on tests and reports & stuff, I was usually one of the top students in school, and I was quiet and never spoke or acted out in class .
But homework, reading, getting shit done in general, talking/interacting with others, committing my attention to something that needs to be done...that's quite a challenge for me. Way too many distractions in the world around me, and thoughts in my head, to commit un-divided attention to one single thing (unless, of course, that one single thing is something I'm super into then I can slip into hyper focus like no other).
But yea...I probably should go see about getting an official diagnosis of sorts, as much as I despise labels of such things. I've been told a few times in my life that people suspected me of being kinda aspergy/HFA, but I was always oblivious to my self so what they were pointing out went over my head...now that I'm older and reflecting back, it's becoming clear that I do likely have something like that going on. MDMA and LSD has helped tremendously though, I can't imagine what sorta space I'd be in if I haven't had the experiences I've had.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: openmind]
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st1llnox said: The #1 best thing to walk out with a script is to get your parents to come and vouch that teachers had always hinted you have ADHD (I discovered this one on accident).
I got my script because I admitted to "abusing it" (using it illegally) and ex-doctor asked how it made me feel/what I did on it )calm, focussed; study, get shit done) and he determined with help from my parents that I'd probaly always had ADHD.
Besides that, memorize the ADHD/ADD criteria in the DSM-IV/DSM-V and remember to answer their questions based on these.
I think I might honestly write a book called "Counter-Psychiatry" (as opposed to Anti-Psychiatry or Psychiatry) detailing this sorta shit.
Good luck 
I'm not hyperactive or impulsive what so ever though, actually the complete opposite of that...Teachers and other parents, and my parents, always commented at how calm, quiet, and well behaved I am. But I have much trouble with focus and getting things done, and lots of trouble with getting my thoughts out in a linear fashion (because I don't think very linearally, and thoughts go off in tangents easily, as some of you may notice with my posts around here )
My teachers would often comment how "spacey" and detached I was. I didn't pay much attention in school unless it was something that really pulled my interest, I'd be staring at the ceiling, counting things over and over, getting lost in patterns & textures of things in class, or looking out the window the entire day, but my teachers never cared or talked to me about it because in the end I always did well on tests and reports & stuff, I was always one of the top students in school.
But homework, reading, getting shit done in general, talking/interacting with others, committing my attention to something that needs to be gone...that's quite a challenge for me. Way too many distractions in the world around me, and thoughts in my head, to commit un-divided attention to one single thing (unless, of course, that one single thing is something I'm super into then I can slip into hyper focus like no other).
But yea...I probably should go see about getting an official diagnosis of sorts, as much as I despise labels of such things. I've been told a few times in my life that people suspected me of being kinda aspergy/HFA, but I was always oblivious to my self so what they were pointing out went over my head...now that I'm older and reflecting back, it's becoming clear that I do likely have something like that going on. MDMA and LSD has helped tremendously though, I can't imagine what sorta space I'd be in if I haven't had the experiences I've had.
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I'm a lot like that. Many people say I'm the most laid back guy they've ever met. Some say I'm too calm.
Way too quiet and introspective.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#19309475 - 12/21/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took my riddalin as prescribed in 2nd grade because the nurse kept it locked in a cabinet. boo hiss.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309480 - 12/21/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I take it as prescribed, or even in lower doses than prescribed. 5mg is as high as I go.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: nooneman]
#19309577 - 12/21/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was on all kinds of different amp's from about 1995 till 2007. Started with standard Ritalin when I was in 1st grade, then to dexedrine for about a year, and back to Ritalin for another 3 or so years. Adderall XR until about 2006. The last thing I was on was Effexor(although an SNRI) after I started having anxiety attacks before I graduated High School. Through most of high school I would sell about a 3rd of the doses I supposedly "took" to the future junkies and methheads.
I can say I hate everything about these types of medication. Hate the loss of apetite(I'm already a really slim guy), hate the jitters and shakes, and I just in general hate the head-space it puts me in. I really think all the years of being on these meds have fucked my brains in peculiar ways. And all the money my parents spent on this shit didn't really amount to much as I don't really have much to show for it as far as achievements.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: schwarg]
#19309599 - 12/21/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How in the fuck do I get prescribed aderall?
Wrote 3/4 of a book over 5 nights and everyone wants me to finish it but no fucking motivation.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19309734 - 12/21/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm prescribed adderall and i used to binge on it, but nowadays i mostly stick to my prescribed dose but it's by no means uncommon for me to take a higher more recreational dose. but i didn't like running out of my prescription like a week after i got it.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Pigasus]
#19309897 - 12/21/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never could understand people taking this shit for pleasure, but to each his own.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19310068 - 12/22/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trust me, daily use is possible. You just gotta drink yourself to sleep everynight and youll be fine.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: openmind]
#19310548 - 12/22/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: The #1 best thing to walk out with a script is to get your parents to come and vouch that teachers had always hinted you have ADHD (I discovered this one on accident).
I got my script because I admitted to "abusing it" (using it illegally) and ex-doctor asked how it made me feel/what I did on it )calm, focussed; study, get shit done) and he determined with help from my parents that I'd probaly always had ADHD.
Besides that, memorize the ADHD/ADD criteria in the DSM-IV/DSM-V and remember to answer their questions based on these.
I think I might honestly write a book called "Counter-Psychiatry" (as opposed to Anti-Psychiatry or Psychiatry) detailing this sorta shit.
Good luck 
I'm not hyperactive or impulsive what so ever though, actually the complete opposite of that...Teachers and other parents, and my parents, always commented at how calm, quiet, and well behaved I am. But I have much trouble with focus and getting things done, and lots of trouble with getting my thoughts out in a linear fashion (because I don't think very linearally, and thoughts go off in tangents easily, as some of you may notice with my posts around here )
My teachers would often comment how "spacey" and detached I was. I didn't pay much attention in school unless it was something that really pulled my interest, I'd be staring at the ceiling, counting things over and over, getting lost in patterns & textures of things in class, or looking out the window the entire day...But my teachers never cared or talked to me about it because in the end I always did well on tests and reports & stuff, I was usually one of the top students in school, and I was quiet and never spoke or acted out in class .
But homework, reading, getting shit done in general, talking/interacting with others, committing my attention to something that needs to be done...that's quite a challenge for me. Way too many distractions in the world around me, and thoughts in my head, to commit un-divided attention to one single thing (unless, of course, that one single thing is something I'm super into then I can slip into hyper focus like no other).
But yea...I probably should go see about getting an official diagnosis of sorts, as much as I despise labels of such things. I've been told a few times in my life that people suspected me of being kinda aspergy/HFA, but I was always oblivious to my self so what they were pointing out went over my head...now that I'm older and reflecting back, it's becoming clear that I do likely have something like that going on. MDMA and LSD has helped tremendously though, I can't imagine what sorta space I'd be in if I haven't had the experiences I've had.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19310560 - 12/22/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's funny how ADHD manifests itself oppositely 
I'd tell you to chill the fuck out and stop taking Ritalin, but you're just like that
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#19310572 - 12/22/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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schwarg said: Never could understand people taking this shit for pleasure, but to each his own.
You make me sad. 
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Trust me, daily use is possible. You just gotta drink yourself to sleep everynight and youll be fine.
This is totally what got me started on alcoholism 
It's sad but it's fucking true. I have every right to be fucking TERRIFIED of sleep deprivation since I spent 45 days in a psych for no good reason.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19310610 - 12/22/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This has been a very informative thread. I'm currently on Cymbalta and Wellbutrin for "mild Bipolar Disorder" (whatever that means. I'd think you either have it or you don't.) but I'm looking to change medications because my mood swings and attention span have started to revert back to pre-medication levels. I've been on this combination for the past 2-3 years so I'm thinking my body is has become acclimated.
One of my coworkers' son was on Rispirdal and Adderral so I'm going to talk to my doctor about trying that combination. I'm really not looking forward to the Cymbalta withdrawals however. *shudder*
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: dionysiandame]
#19310622 - 12/22/13 05:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I were you, I'd be scared shitless of antipsychotics IMO.
Recovery rates (as measured by number of times hospitalized after the first hospitalization for psychosis) plummeted from around 60% to around 6% after they introduced antipsychotics just FYI.
If you could get that combo, try it though I'd just neglect to take the risperidone but for the co-pay price, I'd be getting it for the price of roughly 2-3 street Addies, so...
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19310659 - 12/22/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love dexamphetamine and methamphetamine but I'm a bit scared by the way they change me in ways I don't notice until after the fact.
I can get worked up/aggressive/defensive over bloody stupid shit and that's not like me at all normally. I usually don't care about anything! (to a certain degree)
Also all of my conversations tend to be intellectual since the empathy factor is kind of weird on amps. I just feel good no matter what so I kind of just talk and talk for the sake of having a task but I never have deep or meaningful sort of conversations.
It makes me feel so clear-headed and perfect that I just can't feel how altered I really am at the time, weird shit if you ask me.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: st1llnox]
#19310793 - 12/22/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll jot that down so I can discuss it with my doctor. I had no idea antipsychotics were that scary. I do know my husband specified "No Lithium" so that was the extent of my "don't try that drug" list.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: lessismore]
#19311046 - 12/22/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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st1llnox said: Oh Addy... my first hard drug.
I know 90% of us have ADHD and that the other 10% are just running their doctor for Dexedrine spansules, so... lets hear it 
I personally don't find it to have any conventional recreational value but nor do I take it as prescribed. I take it on probably half of the days on any given month, but I find that when I'm taking it faithfully, I'm super productive and almost completely lose interest in recreational drugs. Is it like that for anyone else?
Now if I were scripted 90 Norco a month, I'm sure I'd have the opposite medication noncompliance problem 
Have you considered that ADHD might just be extreme stress?
I got maybe 95% of adhd symptoms if I google adhd, and I was once at the psychiatrist who said I likely got adhd randomly
I always delay everything I do, do 10 things at once never finish one, find 10 excuses to delay everything I do, lose my keys/creditcard/socks the past 30 years of my life everyday almost and can only concentrate on reading 5mins at a time max usually
but it wasnt always as bad as now, seems I am very sensitive to noise i.e.
the system doesnt always know best I have never been able to read a full book yet, never made it past 1/4th of it in high school/uni, had to reread 100 times, can only remember if I read it 100 times, seems I only got a long term memory, no short term can read 10 pages and remember 5-10% often
after meditating it all improved :-) after eating healthy it all improved too
it is not gone, and my dad got all the same issues, but it has been reduced a small bit
when I smoked weed I would remember 100% of what I read, but without weed (never smoked weed till 25 or so) I would remember 10-20% max of 5-10 pages
without noise where I live I can concentrate almost like everybody else it seems but the slighest noise makes me completely unable to read even 5 pages and remember more than a few lines of them
then there is the issue of regular sleep too, Ive allways been doing everything last second the whole night if I sleep like everybody else did I might be able to remember my things that is stress too
I don't mean to sound rude, offensive or make a personal attack, but I barely hang out with someone anymore because of crappy behavior like this from a "friend" who frankly I gotta wonder if he really has "ADHD" or if it even exists.
I sorta believe in ADD, but I think a separate ADHD diagnosis, if it exists, is grossly overstated and peoples personality disorders can be the real culprit.
No offense, but why the hell start things and not finish them? WHy start more? DO you have a mental block from ACTUALLY finishing things, like you refuse to> All the behavior you describe sounds like at the very least your preconception is that there is something defective in the way you think, but for my "friend" it never changes.
Why is that? If my "friend",(he is a lousy friend and honestly behaves like a borderline sociopath a lot, he is a fucking weasel) who may not actually have ADD or ADHD still benefits when his doctor put him on them, but god forbid he use his fucking brain and not risk getting in trouble over the trivial amount of money he makes selling them, while he walks around with his head UP HIS ASS.
So I don't assume you hold all these traits, but I will be damned if he learned ANYTHING in the 8 months he jacked around trying to learn to grow shrooms, and wasted my time and money.
I could go on forever, he is just a fuck up. It never ceases to amaze me how he never changes, and frankly he is a little bitch! He is a moron, and I think it's a lot to do with personality disorders that keep him from addressing his obvious problems that at least are similar to "ADHD"
He doesn't really want to be a decent person. He justifies stupid shit, and is a defective thinker. I really think he just has ODD. I want to literally punch him when he is so pathologically defiant, and pathologically inconsiderate.
Is he always this bad. Well no, but he NEVER changes. Frankly he needs just a little bit of antidepressant and a little bit of adderall, and some GOD DAMNED THERAPY.
I have taken it in the shorts so many times for his BS which wouldn't bother me if he didn't have a knee jerk reaction for blaming everyone else.
Or justify his stupid thinking like he goes off and never confronts anything. I guess everyone is against him, or something and his ADHD should be blamed. Except that he is a grown as man and no one else needs to suffer just because he REFUSES to get it together.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
#19311085 - 12/22/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Same here. Problem for me is, I honestly don't have any problems focusing when I'm sober. I get my schoolwork and so forth done with no problem. I have a one-track mind. In fact I sometimes feel hyperfocused on that sort of thing to the point of being distracted from social reality. Adderall and similar stimulants- in their prescribed dosages- wake me up to social reality: they makes me talkative, they make me want to go out and be lively and exercise and party and engage in activities. The thing is, they don't prescribe stimulants for problems like mine. They say people like me are "depressed" and give us things like SSRIs and SNRIs, which help a little bit, but they don't do the same thing. I can't really say I'm mad because honestly, I think taking drugs in an attempt to solve problems of this type is an ultimately doomed plan, for reasons mostly due to homeostatic mechanisms.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Beanhead]
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This is how amphetamines affect me also. Which is why I love them so much. Isnt it pretty easy to get a script? Sometimes I feel like I could use one, other times I think it'd be detrimental.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: TheMovement]
#19311877 - 12/22/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to take Ritalin in High School.
Well, generic methylphenidate, and it was among the anti depressant and mood stabilizers I was taking, this was mostly because an idiot therapist thought I had ADD
I do think it maybe helped though, only downside was the school made a big production of dispensing it to me, but my folks where (rightfully) concerned with me getting in trouble for having it (our school system is drama central)
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
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jesus fucking christ, adderall knocks me on my ass. i could just be a baby, but damn...
my friend in college would sell us his pills sometimes. i tried to take it to bang out research papers in a single night and, the stuff basically made me want to sit still on the floor and just zone out. i couldn't concentrate enough to read articles, take notes, organize them, and then write. no way... i couldn't do anything but just sit there.
it WAS good for playing halo though. if a bunch of us would all take adderall and then fire up halo... whooooooooooooooooooooo
but it didn't help me with coursework.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: stimpson]
#19311995 - 12/22/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont know how it works out, but I always end up taking 80-100mg a day even tho I only have a 20mg x 3 script.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: stimpson]
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stimpson said: jesus fucking christ, adderall knocks me on my ass. i could just be a baby, but damn...
my friend in college would sell us his pills sometimes. i tried to take it to bang out research papers in a single night and, the stuff basically made me want to sit still on the floor and just zone out. i couldn't concentrate enough to read articles, take notes, organize them, and then write. no way... i couldn't do anything but just sit there.
it WAS good for playing halo though. if a bunch of us would all take adderall and then fire up halo... whooooooooooooooooooooo
but it didn't help me with coursework.
I have a former friend like this. He has been prescribed ADD meds for since he was six (he is now 23), but the only thing it makes him focus on is video games. He is really good at video games. You'd think his parents would've caught on after a while but nope. He finally graduated from college but hasn't gotten a job since, all he does is play video games living on his parents' dime. He still takes the damn medications, I wonder what the hell they think he needs them for. He is also obese from having fucked up his natural metabolic rhythms, and has scars all over his skin from where he has been picking at his skin for years just like tweakers do. Part of that is all the diet soda he drinks and processed sugar he eats, though.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
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stimpson said: jesus fucking christ, adderall knocks me on my ass. i could just be a baby, but damn...
my friend in college would sell us his pills sometimes. i tried to take it to bang out research papers in a single night and, the stuff basically made me want to sit still on the floor and just zone out. i couldn't concentrate enough to read articles, take notes, organize them, and then write. no way... i couldn't do anything but just sit there.
it WAS good for playing halo though. if a bunch of us would all take adderall and then fire up halo... whooooooooooooooooooooo
but it didn't help me with coursework.
I have a former friend like this. He has been prescribed ADD meds for since he was six (he is now 23), but the only thing it makes him focus on is video games. He is really good at video games. You'd think his parents would've caught on after a while but nope. He finally graduated from college but hasn't gotten a job since, all he does is play video games living on his parents' dime. He still takes the damn medications, I wonder what the hell they think he needs them for. He is also obese from having fucked up his natural metabolic rhythms, and has scars all over his skin from where he has been picking at his skin for years just like tweakers do. Part of that is all the diet soda he drinks and processed sugar he eats, though.
sounds like an unhealthy guy.
why diet soda? diet soda should not even exist. just drink fucking water
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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dude is honestly probably going to die by the time he is 40 if he doesnt make some serious changes to his lifestyle. at least he quit smoking cigarettes and spice and drinking alcohol, all of which he used to do daily in large quantities
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
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maybe he is just a low form of life?
no but seriously, the guy has tweaker pockmarks from regular doses of amphetamine
How does he not go get a job? Is he really that much obsessed with video games?
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: morrowasted]
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Yes. But only recently. I've binged on it to the point of psychosis in the past.
Now I'm getting to the point where I really am not sure I even like the way stimulants make me feel. It's just very exhausting. Adderall helped me a ton..with both "ADD" and depression, and I am able to keep up with my thoughts on it and sort them out in a more organized manner. Before that I was literally ending up in the opposite lane, crashing into medians, parked cars, pretty much a whole shitload of inanimate objects because it was so hard for me to just look straight ahead and drive in a straight line. Obviously that has improved with time and age, I think adderall helped but I do think that I grew out of the more severe symptons.
I'm done abusing it. It exhausts me and makes me feel sick. I've also asked my doctor for an rx for wellbutrin(which is used off label to help with cocaine addiction, you may or may not know). I am still prescribed 20mg adderall a day, but the wellbutrin is the first drug that has been able to make me feel..normal..I guess, and happy(because it does stimulate dopamine) or at least happy enough to get out and do things that make me happy. Now I take 20mg of adderall a day 5mg at a time, as I don't have the XR anymore. Occasionally I use it recreationally and usually end up around 50-60mg a day, but if I do that then I always skip the next 2-3 days to keep my tolerance in check. I'm not saying I don't slip up and re-dose and pull allnighters occasionally, but even though I'm only 21...my body seems to be very exhausted with the lack of sleep..even before the adderall. I used to spend 3 or 4 days strung out on multiple drugs...but my body just can't handle more than 24 hours without sleep anymore, and I'm not gonna try and fight that.
The only drawback to the wellbutrin is that I have to abstain from it(last time I tripped..which was early december, I abstained for a week) when I wanna trip. But I don't feel like I need to do that more than every few months, at most, right now. It also is technically a phenlythamine(i did not spell that right, I know) and has mildly stimulating effects..but it seems a lot more subtle and you don't feel like you're on something.
It seems like it's really helping moderate my impulsive behavior, and really makes me feel like I don't need the adderall, so maybe just consider talking to your doctor about it?
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#19313429 - 12/22/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I get 90 15mg mixed amphetamine salts, and only use it prescribed for maybe a week. I ended up not refilling my script the past two months because I couldn't control my usage.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: Legend]
#19313448 - 12/22/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good on you for making that decision 
How have you been feeling since you've stopped taking it?
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: pirate-blues]
#19359841 - 01/02/14 05:37 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
pirate-blues said:
The only drawback to the wellbutrin is that I have to abstain from it(last time I tripped..which was early december, I abstained for a week) when I wanna trip. But I don't feel like I need to do that more than every few months, at most, right now. It also is technically a phenlythamine(i did not spell that right, I know) and has mildly stimulating effects..but it seems a lot more subtle and you don't feel like you're on something.
It seems like it's really helping moderate my impulsive behavior, and really makes me feel like I don't need the adderall, so maybe just consider talking to your doctor about it?
Is Wellbutrin's effect on tripping a known known? Or does this vary from person to person because the last two times I tripped (on 3.5 grams no less)I barely experienced anything while my husband was pretty much gone.
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Re: Does anyone here actually take their Adderall like prescribed? [Re: dionysiandame]
#19359931 - 01/02/14 05:54 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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When I was precribed Adderall in high school I took it as prescribed (because my mom held it) and it gave me terrible anxiety, made me lose a ton of weight from not eating, made me a zombie, and on my final day of taking it I went to the doctors office for a checkup and had an INTENSE panic attack. Everything started getting really bright and my ears were ringing and all I saw was white and I puked and passed the out. After that I was like FUCK ADDERALL. Haven't taken Adderall or any amphetamines since. Not my cup of tea. That's why I became a dope head Now I'm clean.
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