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1down5up
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19275930 - 12/14/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Last post for today...promise.
There's one growing under the cake, and it's pretty big. I'm hoping it will find it's way out and keep growing once it comes out from under the blankets.

and one more pic, just cuz they look so good 
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19275954 - 12/14/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good
The ones underneath are like a surprise! I had a few and didn't notice them until they really started growing fast.
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it will find it's way out, it's there job to get the best spore ejection possible
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19275971 - 12/14/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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She's doing a great job...yesterday i could barely make out what it was, today the cap is almost out.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19278094 - 12/15/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going to be harvesting them tonight, most have broken the veil overnight. There are a few stragglers though, should i only pick the ones that are ready, and pick the rest a few hours later?
I plan on taking a spore print using this method:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5666855#5666855
I'm also going to try my hand at cloning...the simplest form, because i don't have a PC at hand right now. THis is the method i'm gonna try... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305/fpart/1/vc/1
Some final pics before i chop them later...
     
If anyone has any advice on harvesting them, feel free to chime in, i'm all ears!!
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
#19278147 - 12/15/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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1down5up said: apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
I have an issue with that statement.... Wiping the needle with a sterile wipe would have no effect on the needle in regards to contam. I for one wipe after flaming just because i dont like to see the needle black. its just mental for me, it pisses me off. I will i say dont have nearly as many grows as 98% of people on here, but i am 100% sure there is no harm to wiping a needle off with a wipe if its straight out of the container. It is certainly not like wiping your face with shit.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: Dboy]
#19278207 - 12/15/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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the alcohol wipes i used came in individual packages and are bought from medical suppliers. They don't say they're sterile anywhere on the package, but i assume they are. You wouldn't wipe a persons skin with one before you cut or pierce them if they weren't.
I did use them the second time around, but before i flamed the needle, and not after. I found that some verm stuck to the needle and I wanted to wipe it off before flaming it again. I dont know if it was fluke or not, but i had a better knock up rate this time around.
I'd really like to thank everyone on this site for sharing all this info, and for all your help. About 12 years ago I wanted to try my hand at it, but it just seemed too intimidating. Since then i just kinda picked up info about it here and there, but since watching the RR videos and checking out this forum, I've come to realize it's easier than it looks.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: Dboy]
#19278422 - 12/15/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dboy said:
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Notahacker420 said:
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1down5up said: apparently there are mixed reviews on whether to flame or not, or whether to wipe or not. Some say they don't flame, and some say they don't wipe, and both sides claim to not have any major problems, so by doing both, i guess i increase my chances of mycelium growth.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes....there are no mixed reviews.
Wiping a flame sterilized tool with alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower. RR
I have an issue with that statement.... Wiping the needle with a sterile wipe would have no effect on the needle in regards to contam. I for one wipe after flaming just because i dont like to see the needle black. its just mental for me, it pisses me off. I will i say dont have nearly as many grows as 98% of people on here, but i am 100% sure there is no harm to wiping a needle off with a wipe if its straight out of the container. It is certainly not like wiping your face with shit.
If you must wipe, wipe first, then flame. A needle's surface area is small compared to a wipe, and contams can fall on the wipe and contaminate the needle. Why risk it, and it eliminates a step in the process? You KNOW it is sterile after the flame, and if you are using denatured alcohol or equivalent, there is no soot. It is only sanitary after a wipe. Sterile>sanitary.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: SizlChest]
#19284903 - 12/16/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So i got my first spore print from the second biggest cap, left it for 24 hours in a half pint jar on a piece of tinfoil. Was nice and dark.
Also got a final weight for my first flush on that cake, 33g wet. Not bad for my first grow on one cake. I was really excited just to get some mushrooms and not lose it to contams. It's dunking now, and i'll put it back tomorrow around this time.
The cake i thought was contaminated is doing pretty good too. It's got 3 pins on it so far, but the caps look pretty dark right now. I'm gonna give it another few days before i take some pics to see if it does any better.
The other two cakes that made it out of the first round have been in the fruiting chamber for 2 days and have no visible signs of pins yet, but the mycelium looks good. As soon as they start any action, i'll post some pics.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19286301 - 12/16/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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1down5up said: I'm going to be harvesting them tonight, most have broken the veil overnight. There are a few stragglers though, should i only pick the ones that are ready, and pick the rest a few hours later?
I plan on taking a spore print using this method:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5666855#5666855
I'm also going to try my hand at cloning...the simplest form, because i don't have a PC at hand right now. THis is the method i'm gonna try... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305/fpart/1/vc/1
I picked one of my cake that had some with open, some with closed. The closed ones continued to grow bigger even after the others were picked. Picked them and did this a second time with a few stragglers that grew over the following day and dunked for 2nd flush. For potency maybe pick them all but the weight seems to really increase if you pick them separately.
Thanks for the link! I was trying to find a good spore printing tek that seemed simple enough and that looks like it. Sterilizing a jar as I type.
Also, that LC tek I tried a little over a week ago. Nothing really changing at the moment but I think the biopsy part didn't really grab enough tissue. That or it is just growing slowly. I used karo but am planning on trying honey next time.
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I used the honey. I saw a very small piece of tissue in there, but i'm not putting too much weight into it working...and not because i think the tek is no good...i just dont think i did it right. I really just want to try a bunch of different methods to see what i have the most success with.
I also waited an extra day to pick the stragglers, they got a little bigger, so i was happy....fuck, i was just happy to be picking mushies, and not tossing cakes 
Cronicr turned me on to this one, that i will try with my next batch of jars. http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute
I've got some orissa india, and some mexi cub. I took 4 of the fastest colonizers, and will try to clone a few different fruits from each one. I really want to move away from MS and stick to one set of genes...i think it will make growing them that much easier if they grow under a specific set of circumstances every time.
Thanks for poppin in man! cheers
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19293273 - 12/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, so the cake i thought had contams, appears to be doing ok, but the fruits are a little weird looking....I'm going to do a bit of reading to see if i can find out what's going on, one small pin looks white.....here's a few pics
  
The first flush is over, and i left some very small pins on when i dunked it, but they haven't appeared to grow any since i put it back in the FC....how long after a dunk does it usually take to pick up again?

This is a mutant i got from the first flush, it was one of the late bloomers, and picked it the next day.

...and this is the first spore print i took from the first flush. Sorry for the grainyness...i took the pic through a glovebox. I first started taking spore prints when i started hunting liberty's...it was the only way i cold tell for sure if they were the right kind...at least until i recognized them.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19303939 - 12/20/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been sick as fuck lately....can barely get outa bed, been taking pics, just can't get up to upload. There's been a bit of progress on one cake, the other stalled after the dunk for the second flush, and the other FC has two cakes with nice mycelial growth, but no pins yet. Just gonna wait it out.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19304146 - 12/20/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get better soon
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: cronicr]
#19304368 - 12/20/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19304399 - 12/20/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah get better soon man. Being sick sucks. Plus it is flu season and that shit is miserable.
On a positive note, at least your mushies aren't sick! And just think about all the progress you will see if you have been unable to check on them as often.
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Ok folks, back in action, well...good enough to be outa bed anyway. That one cake that i singled out, started in a 2L pop bottle, was moved to the FC with my first cake. Unfortunately, my first cake stalled, and all the pins on it haven't budged since the dunk for the second flush. They aren't changing color, they're just there. Any advice? I"m going to just wait it out, but if anyone has any advice, i'd sure love to hear it.
This mutant here is all kinds of fucked up....upside downers, fuzzy bottoms, and pecker heads. Smells great though, and that's the comforting part. I read that the "fuzzy" mycelium at the base is an indication of not enough FAE, is that correct? Is that what this is?
 This was yesterday, and this is today
   You can see there's a few that are growing upside down.

An this cake finally showed it's first pin after exactly 7 days. The one in with it didn't consolidate as long so i bet it will be a few days late.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
#19308367 - 12/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya, generally fuzzy feet means lack of FAE
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19308393 - 12/21/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's hard to tell from the pic. There are holes in the bottom of the FC? You have the FC elevated a bit so air can come in those bottom holes evaporating your water soaked perlite and giving you humidity?
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: vikingsc]
#19308658 - 12/21/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The pics are pretty high res, if you click on'em, they'll come up bigger....and yup, i have holes on the bottom and all other sides. I noticed the perlite wasn't as wet as was when i first put it in there. I might pull the cakes out and soak it again.
most of the water droplets on the sides always evaporate about an hour or so after misting, so i know there getting some fresh air, maybe not enough. Could it be from the foil stretching out too far from the base? I mist and fan about 6 or so times a day, and i fan them pretty good.
I don't want to stress them too much, so i hope i figure it out soon...
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