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what does "real" mean?
    #19308345 - 12/21/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What does it mean to be a "real" rapper

People throw around the word like it is clearly defined. But what exactly does that mean

I was over at a buddy's house and we were vaping

"Drake is the realest nigga in the rap game"

I am sitting there like "wat?":confused:


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82]
    #19308348 - 12/21/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:somefunnyshit:

being 'real' has a different meaning to every person


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: MilkdudTitties] * 2
    #19308350 - 12/21/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

opposite of fake,


"drake is the fakest nigga in the rap game"


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #19308351 - 12/21/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Drake? From Degrassi haha! he's not what people would call a real rapper. A "real" rapper could mean many different things to people, but the general term would be accepted as a rapper who actually lives the life they talk about and NOT rapping about bitches money and weed all the time.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: MilkdudTitties] * 1
    #19308352 - 12/21/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

drake is not real

thats for sure lol


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Bassfreak] * 11
    #19308357 - 12/21/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Legend]
    #19308366 - 12/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


:mad2:



Lol I apologize. Your right. I should have tweaked the title my bad hahaha

and why is it that evewry rapper says they are the realest. But in reality, what the fuck does that mean

In some rick ross song, future says "I cant handle fake niggaz!"

I said that I didnt wanna chill with my old high school buddy when he asked me. "Your such a fake fuck"

What does it mean lol? cuz i have yet to find a proper definitaion


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Legend]
    #19308368 - 12/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


:mad2:



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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Icyus]
    #19308372 - 12/21/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well shit just got real, I just got harlem shaked


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Legend]
    #19308383 - 12/21/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


:mad2:





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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Uzziel]
    #19308398 - 12/21/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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well shit just got real, I just got harlem shaked



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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #19308403 - 12/21/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

'undeniable existence'


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Legend]
    #19308405 - 12/21/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Legend said:
I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


:mad2:



:lol:  :sadyes:


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #19308427 - 12/21/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19308832 - 12/21/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lolll


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #19308873 - 12/21/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Being a real rapper = Actually having some semblance of truth in your lyrics when talking about slingin' the ave, pushin' weight, living in ghetto, etc.  Also, being a real rapper means that you can actually rap, and are not overproduced by old ass 50-60-year-old jews.

Example of real rapper:


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82]
    #19308878 - 12/21/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why is it so hard to put a definition to a "real" rapper or "real" person? Somebody who puts on a fake image.. rapping about bugattis maseratis, and they really drive a corola; or rapping about pushing pounds of yayo across state lines and they've never touched the stuff..


Edit: This whole album is a masterpiece^^


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82] * 2
    #19308890 - 12/21/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's an imaginary and rather oxmoronic quality made up by wannabe try-hard thugs to distinguish themselves from their peers.

You see they recognize how absolutely retarded each other look and sound as they project this packaged image that they all subscribe to, but they also know that they look and sound the same exact way, so by necessity they have to fall back on the imaginary quality of "real" to explain how the other people from their subculture can look and sound so retarded but they do not. Of course they do too, but they're not in a stage yet where they can see that.

Later, after they have convinced themselves that they are the realest ever and that everyone is fake, it becomes an artifact of confirmation bias. "Shit Cuddy, I knew D-Tron wadn't no real n*gga so of course he dead from the syrup."

"Real" must always remain qualitative and not quantitative or it will blow the whole thing, we know that Drake is not from the streets and that Lil Wayne was really a valedictorian in highschool, definitely not a blood. Rick Ross was a corrections officer who hijacked a famous convict's name and trade, but still they talk about how real they are in songs and other rappers still come on their songs and rap about how they don't associate with fake rappers. If backed into a corner, "real" is no longer referring to reputation as a drug dealer or gang banger, but suddenly refers to rapping talent.

TL;DR - Real means fake. If you have to tell people you are real, you are not.


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    #19308900 - 12/21/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fyi drake grew up in Toronto suburbs.  Was upper middle class. 

Vanilla Ice grew up harder than Drake.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Konichiwaffle]
    #19308938 - 12/21/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that's about what I figured. I didn't know specifics for him, but that sounds just about spot on.

Realest = Most calculated appeal to the intended demographic and above average sales numbers? Best projection of the gangsta image? Best ability to spit from the dome? No. Realest = shameless, meaningless self promotion.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19308982 - 12/21/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude honedtly u guys summed up and ended this thrrad swiftly and properly

Answered the question spot on. I cudnt agree mpre. If i wasnt on my phone i wud use the "mind blown" gif

I agree 100%


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19308999 - 12/21/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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opposite of fake,


"drake is the fakest nigga in the rap game"




I dunno man his hooks are fucking great. What makes most songs he's been in memorable. After the hook drake shold definitely not be apart of.

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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #19309005 - 12/21/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well first off, did you ask them? Did you ask your friends before you postedh ere I mean. They might be able to clear things up quicker than we can here. I would only assume. Sometimes they won't acknowledge your question, or will turn their focus to another question irking them, some question they might have been asked a week ago and forgot. Though perhaps the question was asked more recently, maybe a moment ago. For we might go somewhere then find our friends there and ask them this ery question.

Anyways, I'm going to try to approach the terminology "real" and put it into better context. Or a context which we can see a clear association among certain comments. Sometimes I have alot of people talk about real rappers. I never know exactly how to react when they get into that, I usually will refrain or will pass off some subtle hint that I've taken a dislike to their exclamation without proof of its value/truth.


A year ago I recall there was a news report that someone sent a document with a list of people that mentioned "real" rappers in their convos. Apparently someone decided to record every instance someone used that word in a sentence & mark it off on a notepad. So they collected up a total of over 500 names of different people that have flamboyantly boasted of a rapper over themselves or some archetype of the mind.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm] * 1
    #19309010 - 12/21/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah that's about what I figured. I didn't know specifics for him, but that sounds just about spot on.

Realest = Most calculated appeal to the intended demographic and above average sales numbers? Best projection of the gangsta image? Best ability to spit from the dome? No. Realest = shameless, meaningless self promotion.




Thats very cynical.

I think the line is between art that comes from passion of the soul, and art that comes from love of money or fame.  Nobody does anything for only one reason though, and getting to another person's true self is impossible AFAIK.

Also there is like fantasy rap, and then rap that deals with cold hard facts.  I think music has been like that for a while.

I think everyone changes once they come in contact with the music industry though.  Industry will kill an artist inside.  Once shit is sold as a commercial product it cannot be an honest thing from someone's soul.

I'd say the artists who rap about how much money they make are more real than the ones who make alot of money but rap about how broke they are and how they gotta kill to get by.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19309139 - 12/21/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well call me jaded but whenever people start professing to me how legit, trustworthy, real, or intelligent they are, I tend to believe the opposite. If they were anything of those things there would be no need to try so hard to convince me, it would be self evident.

I think whatever you rap about and for whatever reason you do it, the art should stand on it's own without you loudly proclaiming how real it is (or you are) to everyone listening. Phonies and try hards have to do that to cover up how bad their shit sucks and influence public opinion in their favor.


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19309513 - 12/21/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The varying definitions of real that have been posted here sum it up pretty well.  Let me offer a possible point of view:

Maybe they meant "Drake is the realest" because they relate to his music?  I personally don't listen to it, but I've heard it before and he is usually rapping about women and relationships.  Maybe your friends relate to the things he is saying, and say he is real because he is putting words to popular feelings/situations.  :shrug:


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: topdog82]
    #19309660 - 12/21/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What does it mean to be a "real" rapper

People throw around the word like it is clearly defined. But what exactly does that mean

I was over at a buddy's house and we were vaping

"Drake is the realest nigga in the rap game"






People can debate all day on what defines being "real", but all I can tell you is this.

Drake ain't "real", lmfao.

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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: Legend]
    #19310306 - 12/22/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Legend said:
I really thought this thread was going to be an in-depth discussion on reality.


:mad2:



For real?


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Re: what does "real" mean? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19311191 - 12/22/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LMFAO!!!


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