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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19331598 - 12/27/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow dude, you actually had me thinking you were kinda clever for a second, and an old school conservative not the head up their ass tea party type.

You’re saying there is no use for high speed rail (travels at 200 mph) connecting cities separated by great distance? You do know Europe has high speed rail?
oh ya its better to drive my car at an average speed of 75 miles (if I’m lucky) next to hundreds of other single passengers for like 15 hours to get to LA, instead of sitting on a high capacity train with those same people and get there in probably 4 hours?

:burke: you sure had me fooled for a minute.
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No shit, you know how to use google, congratulations. Ive lived here for quite a while you don’t think i know what an inversion is? Ya the inversion is natural, the vast majority of that shit you see is pollution from cars, and the pollution gets worse every year. Wow the numbers of cars on the road, and population increases every year. Who would have thought it? and in other places where inversion occurs but the population is lower the air isn’t as bad.

Leave it to a conservative(i don’t even know if i can call you that tea bagger is what i should use) to determine that humans are the not the cause of that, and it is simply a "natural cycle" :lol:


"2.  There is not one shred of evidence for AGW and no warming at all for over 15 years even while CO2 continues to rise.  The media (and Al Gore) makes money by ginning up scares.  In the seventies it was a coming ice age.”


This is the dumbest thing i have ever seen you post, and I’m seriously doubting that you actually went to college now. Not a shred of evidence, really? You ever heard of Paleoclimatology?


Here you go dude, i can’t remember the actual data site that climate scientists use, that they made go to for my geology class but here is the same basic thing

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/





Ya temperature isn’t increasing but all the glaciers are disappearing, droughts are becoming more persistent, and the data literally proves it.
Oh and Global warming was created by Al Gore(not even a scientist) created this to make money and got 97 out of a 100 climate scientists to play along (all agree its happening the only dissension is in what is causing it) and got nasa and the noaa to fake a bunch a data. Now you are going to go and blame the media? The media is the only reason why people who have no expertise in natural sciences at all get any time of day. “I’m a PHD (biblical studies) and i can tell you 100 percent that Global warming is not happening."

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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19331782 - 12/27/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Wow dude, you actually had me thinking you were kinda clever for a second, and an old school conservative not the head up their ass tea party type.

You’re saying there is no use for high speed rail (travels at 200 mph) connecting cities separated by great distance? You do know Europe has high speed rail?
oh ya its better to drive my car at an average speed of 75 miles (if I’m lucky) next to hundreds of other single passengers for like 15 hours to get to LA, instead of sitting on a high capacity train with those same people and get there in probably 4 hours?

:burke: you sure had me fooled for a minute.




Why are you incapable of realizing that if something is cost effective and desirable it will be provided by the private sector.  Even in the immediate suburbs of NYC regular rail service, not the super expensive high speed rail, with millions of riders, still has to be subsidized.  Imagine the size of the taxpayer screwing high speed rail will create.  I shudder.
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Inversion:
No shit, you know how to use google, congratulations. Ive lived here for quite a while you don’t think i know what an inversion is? Ya the inversion is natural, the vast majority of that shit you see is pollution from cars, and the pollution gets worse every year. Wow the numbers of cars on the road, and population increases every year. Who would have thought it? and in other places where inversion occurs but the population is lower the air isn’t as bad.




I knew about basin and range temperature inversions since before you were born
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Leave it to a conservative(i don’t even know if i can call you that tea bagger is what i should use) to determine that humans are the not the cause of that, and it is simply a "natural cycle" :lol:




Did humans cause the end of the Ice Age?
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"2.  There is not one shred of evidence for AGW and no warming at all for over 15 years even while CO2 continues to rise.  The media (and Al Gore) makes money by ginning up scares.  In the seventies it was a coming ice age.”


This is the dumbest thing i have ever seen you post, and I’m seriously doubting that you actually went to college now. Not a shred of evidence, really? You ever heard of Paleoclimatology?


Here you go dude, i can’t remember the actual data site that climate scientists use, that they made go to for my geology class but here is the same basic thing

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/





Ya temperature isn’t increasing but all the glaciers are disappearing, droughts are becoming more persistent, and the data literally proves it.
Oh and Global warming was created by Al Gore(not even a scientist) created this to make money and got 97 out of a 100 climate scientists to play along (all agree its happening the only dissension is in what is causing it) and got nasa and the noaa to fake a bunch a data. Now you are going to go and blame the media? The media is the only reason why people who have no expertise in natural sciences at all get any time of day. “I’m a PHD (biblical studies) and i can tell you 100 percent that Global warming is not happening."

delusion at its finest ladies and gents




You don't even know what AGW stands for if you are citing paleoclimatology.

The alarmists' predictions have not been realized.  Glaciers have been melting for centuries.  CO2 emissions continue to rise and we have seen exactly zero warming for 15 years.  The climate is constantly changing.  Good thing, too.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19333255 - 12/27/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When will you be capable of making a post that doesn’t make my eyes bleed with its fucked up formatting. Do you not realize how huge the startup costs are? I forgot the private sector built the interstate system......

Honestly I’m not a geologists but I’m pretty sure humans didn’t start thriving until far after the ice age.  I actually didn’t know what AGW means because its really fucking unprofessional to use acronyms. Human caused Global warming, right? Paleoclimatology basically proves the shit we have been putting in the air has had an adverse effect on climate


God i wish i was that old and delusional. Guess climate change and overpopulation won’t even effect you anyway, so ya go burn a stack of tires and empty your oil down the storm drain YOLO Brah!


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19333574 - 12/27/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
When will you be capable of making a post that doesn’t make my eyes bleed with its fucked up formatting. Do you not realize how huge the startup costs are? I forgot the private sector built the interstate system......

Honestly I’m not a geologists but I’m pretty sure humans didn’t start thriving until far after the ice age.  I actually didn’t know what AGW means because its really fucking unprofessional to use acronyms. Human caused Global warming, right? Paleoclimatology basically proves the shit we have been putting in the air has had an adverse effect on climate


God i wish i was that old and delusional. Guess climate change and overpopulation won’t even effect you anyway, so ya go burn a stack of tires and empty your oil down the storm drain YOLO Brah!




You still don't get it.  Climate change is a constant factor.  The climate always changes.  What does that have to do with pouring oil down a storm sewer or burning tires?  Not one thing.  Paleoclimatology proves that the climate changes even if we don't exist at all.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19333955 - 12/27/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No shit. No one is arguing that there aren’t natural cycles.

If you think Humans have no influence over climate, i don’t even know what to say dude. Your head is so far up your ass on this one its not even worth talking about.


Its almost as stupid as a flat earth argument.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19335637 - 12/28/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
No shit. No one is arguing that there aren’t natural cycles.

If you think Humans have no influence over climate, i don’t even know what to say dude. Your head is so far up your ass on this one its not even worth talking about.


Its almost as stupid as a flat earth argument.



I'm sorry that your education has been such a failure that you cannot see that these alarmists are making huge bank.  In the seventies and eighties it was the cooling scare.  Now it's a warming scare even though it has been zero for over 15 years while CO2 emissions are rising still.  They make all these predictions and they never pan out.  Remember Paul Ehrlich?  Of course not, you are 17.

Do humans have an effect on the climate.  Of course they do.  Every single species does.  Every one.  Do you know why we have oxygen in the atmosphere?  Single celled organism acting over millions of years.  The argument being presented by the alarmists is that we need to stop using the single greatest boon to mankind because it is increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 0.03% to 0.04%.  Riiiiight.  And that's what ended the ice age.  The natural forces at work that affect the global temperature are so mammoth that they render irrelevant any CO2 increase.  There is also this

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

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It will be seen that there is no correlation whatsoever between carbon dioxide concentration and the temperature at the earth’s surface.

During the latter part of the Carboniferous, the Permian and the first half of the Triassic period, 250-320 million years ago, carbon dioxide concentration was half what it is today but the temperature was 10ºC higher than today . Oxygen in the atmosphere fluctuated from 15 to 35% during this period

From the Cretaceous to the Eocene 35 to 100 million years ago, a high temperature went with declining carbon dioxide.

The theory that carbon dioxide concentration is related to the temperature of the earth’s surface is therefore wrong.




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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19335716 - 12/28/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Quawonk]
    #19335749 - 12/28/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice bit of bullshit.  Cheap energy from hydrocarbons is what has afforded us the luxury to even think about those.  Children are healthier than ever, green jobs are bullshit, the water and air are cleaner now than they were when I was a kid.  Renewables?  Does that mean recycling?  Like plastics (made from petroleum and utterly essential.  We could have energy independence in the US in a decade or so if we would just drill for our own stuff.  We have the resources.  Wind and solar will never amount to shit and I don't like chopping the little birdies to bits.  What does oil have to do with killing rainforests?  Sustainability?  We need hydrocarbon energy to sustain the life we live until we get fusion.  Everything else is bullshit and if we don't get fusion we are totally fucked anyway.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19337114 - 12/28/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

God i wish i was still 17 zappa, getting old sucks and shit.....


Like i said your opinion on this is so fucked its not even worth discussing.


lets debate how evolution is a farce next.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19337139 - 12/28/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Every child who gets her ass kicked always wants to bring up another subject.  If you can provide any proof at all that human caused emissions of CO2 are deleterious I will be more than happy to entertain it.  So far there is none.  Not one single flimsy thread.  I would even go further and assert that warming is not necessarily a bad thing for humanity in general.  See ice age.  Was warming bad then?  Just what is the optimal global temperature for various species?  I suspect polar bears and penguins would prefer another ice age.  Humans and iguanas?  Not so much.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19337165 - 12/28/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I gave you an excellent post that you ignored.


Humans are actually pretty fuckign sensitive to the temperature due to the crops we are reliant on, but i wouldn’t expect a guy that thinks global warming is a farce orchestrated by literally every scientist masterminded by Al Gore to be know that :lol:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19337230 - 12/28/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
I gave you an excellent post that you ignored.




I didn't ignore anything
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Humans are actually pretty fuckign sensitive to the temperature due to the crops we are reliant on, but i wouldn’t expect a guy that thinks global warming is a farce orchestrated by literally every scientist masterminded by Al Gore to be know that :lol:




Wouldn't you think it would actually be better if it was warmer?.  Stop with the "literally every scientist" crap.  It is a well documented lie.  The chief of HADCRU has said there has been no warming for over 15 years.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19337259 - 12/28/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright dude whatever, I’m sorry but acting PHD’s have a little more credibility in the matter than a carpenter that likes arguing about polarizing issues with teenagers and 20 somethings, thinking he is going to create an army of little republicans.


What i don’t get about conservatives is you think Global Warming (at least on a personal level), Gay marriage, Abortion and MJ legalization would be their issues. Yet for the most part they fight it all tooth and nail.

All their issues don’t meet what they define themselves as for the most part. They want everything they support federally mandated and are huge supporters of medicare/medicade

so much for small government :lol:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19337295 - 12/28/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Alright dude whatever, I’m sorry but acting PHD’s have a little more credibility in the matter than a carpenter that likes arguing about polarizing issues with teenagers and 20 somethings, thinking he is going to create an army of little republicans.




You have a PhD?  I posted my sources
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What i don’t get about conservatives is you think Global Warming (at least on a personal level), Gay marriage, Abortion and MJ legalization would be their issues. Yet for the most part they fight it all tooth and nail.




Once again, the endless straw men.  This conservative doesn't think the government should have any say at all on marriage, abortion up to a point or drug use.  You got me confused with some other guy.  I think the AGW scare is a hoax.  I also think that there is not one damn thing we can do about global CO2 emissions.  Call me when the 2+ billion people of China and India are going to accept any restraints.  They burn shit to cook over.
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All their issues don’t meet what they define themselves as for the most part. They want everything they support federally mandated and are huge supporters of medicare/medicade




This is, of course, stupid shit and another straw man
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so much for small government :lol:




So much for being defined by ignorant liberals


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19337587 - 12/28/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nah i don’t have a PHD but you obviously haven’t been in an academic setting in years, most likely decades. You didn’t post any sources, all my shit comes from the NOAA, I’m assuming whatever you are talking about comes from Rush Limbaugh.

Im not talking about you, I’m talking about the conservative movement which is all very against everyone of those issues. Ya we are pretty much fucked when it comes to the environment, does that mean we should make no efforts to become a more sustainable population? I guess you are a huge fan of famine and nuclear war :shrug: You really don’t think Pakistan will use its nukes when India takes all its water and its people are starving?



Oh conservatives aren’t huge supporters of Medicare and medicade? stop with this “straw man” internet arguing 101 jargon, if you used that shit in real life you would look autistic as fuck and no one would take you seriously. “ Actually that is a E pluribus unum fallacy, therefore your logic is in fact deficient, Huzzah another win for the atheist alliance!” :nerd:

and I’m not a liberal. Im so disenfranchised from both parties, i really really want to vote against these new wave dems but i can’t when republicans put retards like palin and romney against em :facepalm: Republicans need to get away from the god and guns bullshit that only rednecks care about. All their real candidates get dropped in the primary because cletus and trina feel like they are washington elite and are going to take their guns.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19337823 - 12/28/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Nah i don’t have a PHD but you obviously haven’t been in an academic setting in years, most likely decades. You didn’t post any sources, all my shit comes from the NOAA, I’m assuming whatever you are talking about comes from Rush Limbaugh.




I didn't post any of my sources?  Here, let me do it again
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

See it now?
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Im not talking about you, I’m talking about the conservative movement which is all very against everyone of those issues. Ya we are pretty much fucked when it comes to the environment, does that mean we should make no efforts to become a more sustainable population? I guess you are a huge fan of famine and nuclear war :shrug: You really don’t think Pakistan will use its nukes when India takes all its water and its people are starving?




What the fuck does sustainable mean in this context?  How are we fucked?  You make no case except for a whine.  I will ask again how do you know that a little warming won't have beneficial effects?  There's a reason why humans evolved around the equator.  It was warmer there. 
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Oh conservatives aren’t huge supporters of Medicare and medicade? stop with this “straw man” internet arguing 101 jargon, if you used that shit in real life you would look autistic as fuck and no one would take you seriously. “ Actually that is a E pluribus unum fallacy, therefore your logic is in fact deficient, Huzzah another win for the atheist alliance!” :nerd:




The people I have these discussions with understand what is relevant to an argument.  What is the "e pluribus unum fallacy"?  I've never heard of it but I do know about straw men and distractions.
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and I’m not a liberal.




The fuck you aren't
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Im so disenfranchised from both parties, i really really want to vote against these new wave dems but i can’t when republicans put retards like palin and romney against em :facepalm: Republicans need to get away from the god and guns bullshit that only rednecks care about. All their real candidates get dropped in the primary because cletus and trina feel like they are washington elite and are going to take their guns.




I don't think somebody who lives in Mom's basement has any business calling Palin a failure and definitely not Romney.  By the way, the Dems do want to take away our guns.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19338575 - 12/28/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because i just got finished with a Natural Resource class this semester.


That source is fucked, the website is bogus and the PHD is a chemist. Lol. Funny thing is that is how energy companies push this bullshit and act like there is another side. They pay PHDs that have about as much understanding of the climate as i do about Sociology to act like professionals in the field. Seriously, if you have enough time to post on a shroom website all day, you should go take a Natural resource class.


I was making fun of you for saying shit you would never say in real life, less ye die of embarrassment.


Im not a liberal, I’m against entitlement programs, and believe in states rights. Just because I’m not a bible thumping blatant racist doesn’t mean I’m a liberal.


I don’t live in my moms basement but nice try. Im not calling palin or romney a failure, they are very good at what they do obviously. Palin is a functioning retard, and Romney is a weasely son of a bitch i wouldn’t trust to walk my dog.  Stop putting words in my mouth. If you think those were the best members of the republican party that is very, very sad.


I don’t care what anyone does with my guns (which by you living in New York, i am positive i have more), its not like gun legislation stops me from doing anything. Clearly drug legislation stopped drug abuse :lolsy: only an idiot would vote for president based on their stance on gun control.....

Ill still own guns and smoke weed regardless of the law says. You yankees need to grow some balls and stop letting johnny law control every little facet of your life, you huge flaming liberal.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19339505 - 12/28/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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and I’m not a liberal.




The fuck you aren't




So everybody who believes in anthropomorphic climate change is a liberal? :lolsy:

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I don't think somebody who lives in Mom's basement has any business calling Palin a failure and definitely not Romney.  By the way, the Dems do want to take away our guns.




Damn, Zap. For a second, you almost had my respect when you said that you were a REAGAN Republican. That, I still can respect. But a Dubya Republican, or a PALIN Republican.... you sir, have completely lost my respect again. :nonono:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
    #19339755 - 12/29/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You like Reagan republicans?

Holy shit, Reagan is the guy who singlehandedly destroyed the republican party. Now the only candidates that have a chance are born again “family values” gun toting, military stroking, christians, and not being religious enough is actually a thing. I guess the last two candidates they put forward were decent guys up until the point they tried to run for president and flip flopped on every issue.

Reagan was the most disingenuous mothefucker that gets shit attributed to him that he had very little to do with. Everyone who thinks Reagan is the greatest president can’t even think of anything that makes him great.

Shitty economic policy and scandal? Iran Contra? Just Say No? Space wars?

I guess bush does have that retard Ashcroft that tried to cover the lady of justice’s tit because it is too obscene :facepalm: but reagan was terrible. I don’t even know what Clinton did that makes all democrats worship him like repubs worship Reagan. Atleast Clinton wasn’t senile while in office.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19355119 - 01/01/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

:lol:

I could laugh at your posts all day


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