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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
#19326106 - 12/25/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh man there is nothing i love more than arguing economic policy with hippies that only speak in dichotomies.
Arguing for pure capitalism is just as stupid as arguing for pure socialism, which is why nobody does it.
Explain to me how raising employee wages, by law, raises prices on goods.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19326474 - 12/25/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Explain to me how raising employee wages, raises prices on goods.
store owners will not take a cut in their annual profit.
so they will raise prices of goods.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
#19327386 - 12/26/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Explain to me how raising employee wages, raises prices on goods.
store owners will not take a cut in their annual profit.
so they will raise prices of goods.
Store Owners?
We are talking about walmart..... (a multinational corporation)
That is an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it, i guess. Walmarts profit margin has got to be fucking insane, plus its not like they stock their store with high quality shit. Account in all the money they lose on lawsuits, and the PR hits they take, plus employee turnover and I’m sure it would be beneficial to pay their guys a livable wage. But they pay accountants and finance guys 6 figures to compound numbers like that.
All i was saying is that their executives make a ludicrous amount of money, compared to even middle and senior management. I think the average exec in america makes 64$ to every $ their counterparts in management. Judging by that fact that we are talking about this on a Mushroom website leads me to believe you aren’t a beneficiary of such a fucked up corporate power structure.
Don’t even try and pin me as a hippy/commie or whatever either, just because i believe in being decent to your employees and am not a fan of slave like labor. Go back to wherever your family emigrated from if you like rampant cronyism and corruption. Im still a dick and huge supporter of capitalism, I’m just not that much of a horrible person. Plus a happy employee is at least 2x (I’m sure you can find the exact number for this) as efficient as a disaffected one.
Have you been into walmart recently? Half of the staff at mine seem so fucking high they can’t even focus their eyes, and probably steal more from walmart than they make.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19327740 - 12/26/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great video. I've always considered mankind's worst ideas to be politics, religion, and money. These three have caused so much trouble and held us back so much over the centuries.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19328184 - 12/26/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said:
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elax420 said: Explain to me how raising employee wages, raises prices on goods.
store owners will not take a cut in their annual profit.
so they will raise prices of goods.
Store Owners?
We are talking about walmart..... (a multinational corporation)
i thought we were talking about raising minimum wage.
walmart isnt the only place that is required to follow minimum wage laws.
so then lets talk specifically about walmart.
walmart will follow the minimum wage increases (because they have to) and as you said because they have huge profit margins they are able to take a cut at the highest level to keep prices low
which then forces every other grocery store out of business because they can't afford to take losses.
(ps, this is how walmart operates in general. they will take losses until the competition cant afford to stay open)
so raising the minimum wage will further monopolize walmart.
yaaaaaay.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19328907 - 12/26/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: That was one of the worst TED talks I’ve seen, all their numbers and studies were subjective as shit and all had confounding variables out the ass.
“science”

Taking a look at this thread it seems its evolved into the typical Republican/Democrat shit.
All i gotta say is we better stop incentivizing growth. Population is getting out of control as is, what is it going to look like in 30 years?
Nobody will say it because it does sound terrible, but people gotta start dying. Its a dog eat dog world, and the truth hurts sometimes but everything isn’t all roses and sunshine 
If the lowest strata of society keeps reproducing at its current rate we are going to see some terrible famines, wars, you name it.
forced sterilization anyone 
This is what I've been saying for the LOOOOONGEST time!! Fucking heterosexuals (and hell, even fucking gay people who have kids) REALLY need to quit having babies and overpopulating the world!!!! And I've known for the LONGEST time that only the DUMBEST motherfuckers in the world BREED. Less intelligence means you don't use your brain and THINK as much as more intelligent people, meaning they just don't think before having unprotected sex. The people I see having the most accidental pregnancies are the DUMBEST races, like mexicans and blacks.
Is it really that difficult to think, "Hey, I should probably use a condom before sticking my dick in this pussy!!!" Wow!!! What a fucking concept!!!
Seriously, when I'm driving on the road, all I see is TRAFFIC!! You know where this traffic comes from???!! From fucking stupid people breeding and overpopulating the world.
QUIT FUCKING HAVING BABIES!!!!
Oh, and this thread has totally lost track.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: occollegeboi]
#19329107 - 12/26/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People like saying overpopulation is a problem.
They also like criticizing the "illuminati" for their supposed plans to decrease the world population significantly

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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
#19329549 - 12/26/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said: bailouts arent capitalism either
all those aforementioned CEOs should be out of jobs right now.
capitalism works, but what we have isnt capitalism.
The government caused the problem. Let's fire them all first.
i guess thats ok
as long as we get the banksters sooner or later
I'd rather put assholes who don't repay the money they borrow in jail.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
#19329828 - 12/26/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said:
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k00laid said:
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elax420 said: Explain to me how raising employee wages, raises prices on goods.
store owners will not take a cut in their annual profit.
so they will raise prices of goods.
Store Owners?
We are talking about walmart..... (a multinational corporation)
i thought we were talking about raising minimum wage.
walmart isnt the only place that is required to follow minimum wage laws.
so then lets talk specifically about walmart.
walmart will follow the minimum wage increases (because they have to) and as you said because they have huge profit margins they are able to take a cut at the highest level to keep prices low
which then forces every other grocery store out of business because they can't afford to take losses.
(ps, this is how walmart operates in general. they will take losses until the competition cant afford to stay open)
so raising the minimum wage will further monopolize walmart.
yaaaaaay.
Not even talking about raising minimum wage so this is irrelevant.
People that talk about the “illuminati” aren’t exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420] 1
#19330048 - 12/26/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you think the world is over populated kill yourself.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Deathcore]
#19330085 - 12/26/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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edgy brahhh
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: occollegeboi]
#19331051 - 12/26/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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occollegeboi said: This is what I've been saying for the LOOOOONGEST time!! Fucking heterosexuals (and hell, even fucking gay people who have kids) REALLY need to quit having babies and overpopulating the world!!!! And I've known for the LONGEST time that only the DUMBEST motherfuckers in the world BREED. Less intelligence means you don't use your brain and THINK as much as more intelligent people, meaning they just don't think before having unprotected sex. The people I see having the most accidental pregnancies are the DUMBEST races, like mexicans and blacks.
Is it really that difficult to think, "Hey, I should probably use a condom before sticking my dick in this pussy!!!" Wow!!! What a fucking concept!!!
Seriously, when I'm driving on the road, all I see is TRAFFIC!! You know where this traffic comes from???!! From fucking stupid people breeding and overpopulating the world.
QUIT FUCKING HAVING BABIES!!!!
Oh, and this thread has totally lost track.
I'm assuming "OC college Boi" stands for "Orange County College Boy," and actually, the traffic stems from the fact that housing costs are so high, that many people cannot afford to live close by to where they work.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19331129 - 12/26/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And also that people like their cars way too fucking much.
Seriously some people develop some creepy relationships with those things. I think it would be cool as shit to live walking distance from everywhere you need to go (like european style cities) thereby eliminating the need for cars.
They are fun but i try to drive mine as little as possible because its fuckng expensive and wasteful. Not trying to sound self righteous because i do it too, but by driving everywhere you are just adding to the problem.
By the way thinking that race has anything to do with intelligence makes me doubt your intelligence.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19331151 - 12/26/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: And also that people like their cars way too fucking much.
Seriously some people develop some creepy relationships with those things. I think it would be cool as shit to live walking distance from everywhere you need to go (like european style cities) thereby eliminating the need for cars.
They are fun but i try to drive mine as little as possible because its fuckng expensive and wasteful. Not trying to sound self righteous because i do it too, but by driving everywhere you are just adding to the problem.
I would do the same if I didn't live in So Cal, but unfortunately, public bus systems are absolutely awful here. They only come by once every hour, and they are sometimes between 20 and 60 minutes late!
First, the US needs to completely revamp the public transit system. Make it more like Tokyo or NYC for people to commute that way.
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By the way thinking that race has anything to do with intelligence makes me doubt your intelligence.
He's from Orange County, home of the bigots and GW Bush Republicans. What else did you expect? He's probably a conservative, but has no reason for why except that his parents voted for that guy too.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19331197 - 12/26/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Totally agreed.
I have no idea why we don’t have a high speed rail system, seems like it would be a great way to help the economy. Infastructure is always a solid investment and that would provide a shit ton of jobs. But most republicans would never be down for that because government spending always=bad, Global warming is a farce perpetrated by the leftwing media, and we have unlimited oil as long as the tree huggers just let us drill baby drill 
My city has a lot of shit to encourage cycling. We get pretty bad gridlock but there are bike lanes all over the city. They also have this really cool program thats like a bike collective. I have my own bike so I’ve never used it, but they have bike stands all over and you just grab one for free and drop it off at another stand. It seems really cool. We also have a really good light rail system.
to you people that think driving isn’t bad and don’t give a shit about the environment check this shit out
 Its a relatively small city that gets as bad of air as fucking Bejing in the winter.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19331220 - 12/26/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Totally agreed.
I have no idea why we don’t have a high speed rail system, seems like it would be a great way to help the economy. Infastructure is always a solid investment and that would provide a shit ton of jobs. But most republicans would never be down for that because government spending always=bad, Global warming is a farce perpetrated by the leftwing media, and we have unlimited oil as long as the tree huggers just let us drill baby drill 
Apparently in the 1950's Los Angeles was supposed to create a complex metropolis transit system. Ford Motors bought it out, so the railways never went to construction.
I never owned a car in cities that had good public transit. Long Beach, Las Vegas, Tokyo... all cities with relatively good public transportation, obviously Tokyo being the best. But living where I do now in OC, I would never even be able to get to work without taking 5 hours out of my day... and that would be for 1-way transportation.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19331443 - 12/27/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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He's from Orange County, home of the bigots and GW Bush Republicans. What else did you expect? He's probably a conservative, but has no reason for why except that his parents voted for that guy too.
Excuse me but liberals think Negroes are too stupid to make it on their own and conservatives think they can. Who's racist again?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
#19331457 - 12/27/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Totally agreed.
I have no idea why we don’t have a high speed rail system, seems like it would be a great way to help the economy. Infastructure is always a solid investment and that would provide a shit ton of jobs. But most republicans would never be down for that because government spending always=bad, Global warming is a farce perpetrated by the leftwing media, and we have unlimited oil as long as the tree huggers just let us drill baby drill 
1. High speed rail is extremely expensive and of limited utility in our spread out geography. If it was cost effective the private sector would be making money from it. As it is passenger rail service has to be subsidized everywhere, even NYC which is.
2. There is not one shred of evidence for AGW and no warming at all for over 15 years even while CO2 continues to rise. The media (and Al Gore) makes money by ginning up scares. In the seventies it was a coming ice age.
3. Nobody thinks we have unlimited oil but we have a lot more than the tree hugging retards think we do.Quote:
My city has a lot of shit to encourage cycling. We get pretty bad gridlock but there are bike lanes all over the city. They also have this really cool program thats like a bike collective. I have my own bike so I’ve never used it, but they have bike stands all over and you just grab one for free and drop it off at another stand. It seems really cool. We also have a really good light rail system.
to you people that think driving isn’t bad and don’t give a shit about the environment check this shit out
 Its a relatively small city that gets as bad of air as fucking Bejing in the winter.
Basin and range temperature inversion keeps the smog close to the ground.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
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He's from Orange County, home of the bigots and GW Bush Republicans. What else did you expect? He's probably a conservative, but has no reason for why except that his parents voted for that guy too.
Excuse me but liberals think Negroes are too stupid to make it on their own and conservatives think they can. Who's racist again?
All that aside, Orange County is notorious for espousing racist viewpoints. The "Obama is a Muslim Kenyan" trope started from this county, for godsake's.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19331459 - 12/27/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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