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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
    #19314496 - 12/23/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody will say it because it does sound terrible, but people gotta start dying.  Its a dog eat dog world, and the truth hurts sometimes but everything isn’t all roses and sunshine :shrug:




People aren't dying because of advents and breakthroughs in medical science. This means longer social security and Medicare payments, which is the biggest expense in the U.S.



where does war fit in those expenses :wink:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: thelanzii]
    #19315756 - 12/23/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seen that video many times Cyrstal


The thing about nukes is it seems like most countries would be smart enough to not use them, then you have india and pakistan.........


Isreal too but i think they would only use em if they got fucked over really hard by an arab state.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19315771 - 12/23/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Seen that video many times Cyrstal


The thing about nukes is it seems like most countries would be smart enough to not use them, then you have india and pakistan.........


Isreal too but i think they would only use em if they got fucked over really hard by an arab state.





LOL

"fuck these people for doing this,

oh yeah israel does it too, but for a good reason"


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
    #19315795 - 12/23/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, :burke:


You are literally the first person to ever accuse me of being a supporter of Isreal.



I think it is worse that they have nukes than the fact that Iran will have them soon.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #19316930 - 12/23/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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As india’s population keeps skyrocketing Pakistan is going to lose its water supply, keep in mind both countries hate the shit out of each other already and both nuclear powers. Ah what a lovely world we live in :lol: Zappa’s generation had it so easy







Your generation is going to get fucked big time by the liberals of my generation, not the conservatives.
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Nowadays almost all countries have nukes. Supposedly you would only need like 100 nukes to completely destroy the earth, and Russia and the USA alone have thousands. Like WTF is even the point of having that many? It's all just a competition.




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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19319207 - 12/24/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would agree with that assessment Zappa, the conservatives before your time were the worst though.


Fuck everything about ronald reagan and the bushes :lol:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19319308 - 12/24/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is EXACTLY true! Having lived in newport beach, california, this is EXACTLY how people are. People think they can just do whatever they want. And boy are they the greediest motherfuckers ever.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19321608 - 12/24/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would agree with that assessment Zappa, the conservatives before your time were the worst though.




How so? 
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Fuck everything about ronald reagan and the bushes :lol:




Neither Bush was a conservative.  Reagan was but could only do so much with an oppositional Congress and, unlike Obama, did not think he was elected King who could rewrite laws at his whim.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19321704 - 12/24/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:orly:
Because thats exactly what they ran as. I guess my beef is with Neo-Cons not older conservatives. Eisenhower is one of my favorite presidents.

Ya Reagan just did super illegal shit (Iran Contra), but he was a real working mans guy :lol:
Reagan was the phoniest son of a bitch, even for a politician he was something else.


I lean conservative in a lot of ways believe it or not.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19321886 - 12/24/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Because thats exactly what they ran as. I guess my beef is with Neo-Cons not older conservatives. Eisenhower is one of my favorite presidents.




Bush the Younger ran on Compassionate Conservatism.  Bush the Elder accused Reagan of voodoo economics.
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Ya Reagan just did super illegal shit (Iran Contra), but he was a real working mans guy :lol:




You think Iran Contra, to which he was never attached was super illegal but a King President who changes the laws of Congress on a whim and refuses to enforce others is not? 

Name the President of the US who was also a union president.
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Reagan was the phoniest son of a bitch, even for a politician he was something else.




LOL.  He was the least phony of any I can recall
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I lean conservative in a lot of ways believe it or not.




Name a few.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19322238 - 12/24/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Reagan did have voodoo economics. Dude Reagan had nothing to do with Iran Contra just like Obama has nothing to do with torture and domestic spying :rolleyes:

I would have never figured a guy with a real blue collar job identifies with hollywood elite.
He was fucking Democrat forever and he was always an actor, family values my fucking ass how many bitches did he fuck? enough about that senile fuck though,

I lean conservative in fiscal policy. Im not a big fan of entitlement programs, i see the value of them but i think they are much too large to function as intended, and you end with weird situations where families play the system for their entire lives, and employers intentionally underpay their workers and expect the government to make up for it (walmart)


That being said Farm subsidies are just as stupid, and the military is oversized. Exxon shouldn’t be getting tax cuts in my mind either. I have no problem with cutting corporate taxes to encourage economic growth, but they should cut taxes from innovative companies, not shit that is so outdated and unsustainable.

Ill admit i don’t know much about the tax code but i would like to see a google or apple (you get the idea) getting the tax cuts instead of big unsustainable energy.


Also Im from the west so I’m not a fan of Federal intervention in things that i believe should be decided by the state, barring extreme scenarios. (gun control, abortion, gay marriage, you get the idea)


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
    #19322437 - 12/24/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Reagan did have voodoo economics. Dude Reagan had nothing to do with Iran Contra just like Obama has nothing to do with torture and domestic spying :rolleyes:




They investigated it to the balls and he didn't get tagged for it.  They barely snicked Bush senior and that went nowhere.  What torture?  What domestic spying?
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I would have never figured a guy with a real blue collar job identifies with hollywood elite.




Reagan was not Hollywood elite.  He was barely above a B movie actor
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He was fucking Democrat forever and he was always an actor, family values my fucking ass how many bitches did he fuck? enough about that senile fuck though,




None that I know of.  If you got something show it.
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I lean conservative in fiscal policy. Im not a big fan of entitlement programs, i see the value of them but i think they are much too large to function as intended, and you end with weird situations where families play the system for their entire lives, and employers intentionally underpay their workers and expect the government to make up for it (walmart)




Employers have no obligation to pay anybody any more than they have to.  They shouldn't give a shit if the government makes up for it.  I got an idea.  Stop having the government give people money.  Increasing pay at Wal Mart will increase prices for the poor people who shop there.  What poor peopple do you want to fuck?
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That being said Farm subsidies are just as stupid, and the military is oversized. Exxon shouldn’t be getting tax cuts in my mind either. I have no problem with cutting corporate taxes to encourage economic growth, but they should cut taxes from innovative companies, not shit that is so outdated and unsustainable.




Farm subsidies are a disgrace..  The military is not oversized but inefficient.  Like everything the government does
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Ill admit i don’t know much about the tax code but i would like to see a google or apple (you get the idea) getting the tax cuts instead of big unsustainable energy. 




Fuck Google, the biggest spy agency on the planet.  Fuck Apple, the planned obsolescence cunts that they are.  Do you know that they would not even try to replace the battery in an Ipod?  I don't think there should be any corporate taxes at all.  Did you know we have the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world and that it is only tenable because of cronyism?  No corporate taxes at all and tax profits as income when the owners take them.  You want favoritism for your favorites.  Fuck that.
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Also Im from the west so I’m not a fan of Federal intervention in things that i believe should be decided by the state, barring extreme scenarios. (gun control, abortion, gay marriage, you get the idea)




I can't tell if you think those three things are extreme scenarios that should have federal control or not.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19323948 - 12/25/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He had multiple wives and was an actor, even you can’t be that naive, but like i said I’m done with reagan, no sense in talking about that senile fuck.

Increasing workers pay doesn’t necessarily raise prices for consumers either. How about just have the executives make 99 million instead of 100 and pay the regular workers 8$ instead of 7.25 Its just a story of have/have not. Don’t even try and give me the shit about executives working harder :lol: its and olds boys club and if you haven’t figured that out, sucks to be you...


Totally agree with you about the inefficiency of government, nothing the government gets its hands on works. You’re making a business person argument, i say oversized you say inefficient when they are really one in the same (for the most part),

Favoritism is the name of the game dude, like it or not i think that is human nature and not going anywhere. Besides that though, where would they make up the lost revenue by dropping corporate taxes?

No what I’m saying is the states should be left to decide social issues to themselves baring extreme circumstances. EX: mom and dad want to abort kid, known to have severe birth defects and may kill the mom but state says no because Jesus sez so.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420] * 1
    #19324856 - 12/25/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Increasing workers pay doesn’t necessarily raise prices for consumers either.

How about just have the executives make 99 million instead of 100.




1. yes it will

2. thats not capitalism.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
    #19325223 - 12/25/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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elax420 said:
Increasing workers pay doesn’t necessarily raise prices for consumers either.

How about just have the executives make 99 million instead of 100.




1. yes it will

2. thats not capitalism.



but man, like, the corporate fat cats are taking all the food from the african babies


like, everything should be free, man. why do we even use money? 
money makes people evil man.


we should redistribute all wealth on a global scale.  to hell with competition and innovation.



cause i'm poor and some other people arent therefore they are douchebags :hippie:  :knockmeonmyass:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: NWlight]
    #19325241 - 12/25/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

bailouts arent capitalism either

all those aforementioned CEOs should be out of jobs right now.

capitalism works, but what we have isnt capitalism.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
    #19325259 - 12/25/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

didnt the government just sell its shares in GM at an 80% loss or something too? :rofl:


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: k00laid]
    #19325284 - 12/25/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bailouts arent capitalism either

all those aforementioned CEOs should be out of jobs right now.

capitalism works, but what we have isnt capitalism.



The government caused the problem.  Let's fire them all first.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: NWlight]
    #19325288 - 12/25/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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didnt the government just sell its shares in GM at an 80% loss or something too? :rofl:


great job guys, all around



It wasn't that much.  I think we took a 10B hit.  The banks?  Profit for the taxpayer.


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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19325303 - 12/25/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
bailouts arent capitalism either

all those aforementioned CEOs should be out of jobs right now.

capitalism works, but what we have isnt capitalism.



The government caused the problem.  Let's fire them all first.




i guess thats ok

as long as we get the banksters sooner or later


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