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Politically Left Wing
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I am personally right wing but Im just wondering how many Shroomerites are Left Wing?
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: RickyBobby]
#19307640 - 12/21/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From my analysis of most posters political positions I would say the majority are left wing
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: dontknow]
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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I'd be left wing in Ireland so I'm probably extreme left wing in the US from what I gather, Course the simple left-right spectrum doesn't do it justice but whatever that's been debated a billion times
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: iarphairc]
#19307687 - 12/21/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it makes you feel better op I am rightwing
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: iarphairc]
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I'm pretty middle ground, a bit more left though. But one thing I hate is when the left is overly politically correct it annoys me to no end. And someone is always waiting to cry 'homophobe' to snub you without having to have an argument
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: RickyBobby]
#19307721 - 12/21/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I lean left on some issues and right on others. I would consider myself a libertarian. Seems like there's a good deal of people who consider themselves this now that the two major parties have failed to live up to their respective cliche's in the past few years.
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This thread should have had a poll...
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: dontknow]
#19307746 - 12/21/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right wing but lean left on certain issues.
Think of it like this. How many people on here are gay? Majority will be left. How many people on here are hippies. Majority will swing left. How many on here are recent college grads that think they know it all after the four cushy years in a dorm living off daddys dime. Majority will be left.
The right wing on this sight is thw minority. There are a lot of posters who sway right who can articulate themselves and don't talk out their ass. Go read any of the obama threads and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal]
#19307755 - 12/21/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm the whole fucking bird. The puppetmaster behind it all.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal] 2
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Yeah this really could have used a poll
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal]
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politics are stupid. the fact that people still go along with two party politics when it's been proven a sham, is beyond me.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: RickyBobby]
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I'm not really either i think you should be able to do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on anybody else's rights to life property and freedom
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Well that's easy, rightwings are usually just plain out dickheads
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I hate the left/right paradigm of western politics. I find myself somewhere in the middle, there is a lot that makes sense from both political ideologies, and there is a lot that doesn't make sense as well.
Ultimately I am A-political because I am convinced that modern western politics is no kind of democracy at all, but rather a corptocracy. The main issues driven by either side doesn't do much but benefit the status quo of major corporations.
The modern age is Plato's nightmare of Merchant Rule (not that I particularly agree with Plato's concept of ideal governance).
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So me wanting to keep my guns is me being a dick head?
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: spixce]
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
#19307797 - 12/21/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: So me wanting to keep my guns is me being a dick head?
Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
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Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
Okay how about me not wanting to pay more taxes so some bum who doesn't apply himself. Or some skank who popped out five little shits because she couldn't keep her legs closed? Why should I pay more than the 30 year old just doing the bare minimum at mcdonalds when I worked hard and applied myself? Does this make me a dick head?
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
#19307816 - 12/21/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes in there eyes they believe that life should be made fair I don't agree with there positions obviously however that is how they view the world
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So we should treat everyone like children and coddle them. The left wing view is so much more realistic.... Oh how I see the error of my ways...
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
#19307845 - 12/21/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ha I know they are all about making people dependent instead of independant.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: So me wanting to keep my guns is me being a dick head?
Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
Okay how about me not wanting to pay more taxes so some bum who doesn't apply himself. Or some skank who popped out five little shits because she couldn't keep her legs closed? Why should I pay more than the 30 year old just doing the bare minimum at mcdonalds when I worked hard and applied myself? Does this make me a dick head?
Only a fraction of your taxes goes to welfare, much of which is used by people correctly who get back off of it. Just because a notable fraction of people abuse it, that doesn't mean there aren't people who absolutely do need it - and there are. If it was cut completely as you seem to want, there would be people put out on the street because of it.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Mescalean said: So me wanting to keep my guns is me being a dick head?
Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
Okay how about me not wanting to pay more taxes so some bum who doesn't apply himself. Or some skank who popped out five little shits because she couldn't keep her legs closed? Why should I pay more than the 30 year old just doing the bare minimum at mcdonalds when I worked hard and applied myself? Does this make me a dick head?
Only a fraction of your taxes goes to welfare, much of which is used by people correctly who get back off of it. Just because a notable fraction of people abuse it, that doesn't mean there aren't people who absolutely do need it - and there are. If it was cut completely as you seem to want, there would be people put out on the street because of it.
I want it torn down and reformed bot done away with. Manditory hair follicle testing and all.
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We're all dependant on eachother, and a person's worth is innate. I think the majority wants a government that is run by people from the ground up, not the top down. People seem too caught up in making money and pop culture to really think about making big changes, or think at all really.
I think it will always be true that you can't trust people who willingly get into politics, and then to the average American politics just means imagining the world exactly as you want it and blaming a scapegoat when you're continuosly disappointed. Such a waste of time.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: RickyBobby]
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I am no wing. In relation to the world of politics im more like a grub
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Gilgamesh18 said: Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
Okay how about me not wanting to pay more taxes so some bum who doesn't apply himself. Or some skank who popped out five little shits because she couldn't keep her legs closed? Why should I pay more than the 30 year old just doing the bare minimum at mcdonalds when I worked hard and applied myself? Does this make me a dick head?
Only a fraction of your taxes goes to welfare, much of which is used by people correctly who get back off of it. Just because a notable fraction of people abuse it, that doesn't mean there aren't people who absolutely do need it - and there are. If it was cut completely as you seem to want, there would be people put out on the street because of it.
I want it torn down and reformed bot done away with. Manditory hair follicle testing and all.
What about the 60-something with no family and no job who's struggling to find work and some old pal of his hooks him up with a nug and he tests positive?
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Yes you are threat to left wing stateists since in there mind only the state can defend you are at the mercy of the state to protect you.
Okay how about me not wanting to pay more taxes so some bum who doesn't apply himself. Or some skank who popped out five little shits because she couldn't keep her legs closed? Why should I pay more than the 30 year old just doing the bare minimum at mcdonalds when I worked hard and applied myself? Does this make me a dick head?
Only a fraction of your taxes goes to welfare, much of which is used by people correctly who get back off of it. Just because a notable fraction of people abuse it, that doesn't mean there aren't people who absolutely do need it - and there are. If it was cut completely as you seem to want, there would be people put out on the street because of it.
If there wasn't such a shit pile of leftists policies, currencies, and regulations not so many people would need welfare.
Leftism is a well intentioned, but not well thought out spiral into destitude
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Mescalean, Gilgamesh, YOU ARE PEOPLE. just thought you should know.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Right and left is an ignorant choice.
I think out of the box. Ultimately no one is right when everyone is wrong.
Typically left is right more often right than the right side but the right side has its own highly beneficial merits. Politics always changes though when population changes. Too many people and we have to sacrifice freedoms to accommodate people. I think the world needs less people and more personal freedom. George Washington pretty much had it all figured out...
I think we sacrifice way too much for material gain.
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My main concern is addicts abusing the system which being an ex junkie I've seen plenty of. I'm assuming it would work the same as probation. If you are using aid from our society obey the rules that go with it. Personally I wouldn't care about bud. I just don't want some alcoholic or junkie using my cash for their fix. And honestly having known quite a few people on welfare. They never applied themselves. They contribute nothing to society yet expect hand outs.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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well, technically, your cash becomes the government's cash... feel better?
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Well I would assume a lot of addicts would just get caught early on
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No not really because I'm the one who put work in for that cash. The us government having it doesn't make me feel warm an fuzzy at all.
Still amazes me that we can spend billions on black projects and defense contracting yet still have no money for other shit...
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Synthe]
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Well I would assume a lot of addicts would just get caught early on
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Left. Not gonna list the reasons but I will say that:
The people (many in my family; many on this forum) that say the most ignorant bullshit, believe in Jeebus and the Rapture, thump their bibles, #1 issue is abortion, #2 issue is gays, highest level of education is 12th grade, believe in conspiracy theories, etc., are all Republicans. They are some of the dumbest people I've ever encountered in my life.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: No not really because I'm the one who put work in for that cash. The us government having it doesn't make me feel warm an fuzzy at all.
Still amazes me that we can spend billions on black projects and defense contracting yet still have no money for other shit...
Once the leftists concentrate so much power centrally, it is ALWAYS taken advantage of and corrupted. This is something leftists need to realize.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said: My main concern is addicts abusing the system which being an ex junkie I've seen plenty of. I'm assuming it would work the same as probation. If you are using aid from our society obey the rules that go with it. Personally I wouldn't care about bud. I just don't want some alcoholic or junkie using my cash for their fix. And honestly having known quite a few people on welfare. They never applied themselves. They contribute nothing to society yet expect hand outs.
Yeah its not drug war's fault at all, blame the junkies.
People applying themselves can do just as much bad as good. Blind ambition is just as pointless as no ambition.
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If my cash becomes the gumnmint's cash why should I bother accruing any?
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Mescalean said: My main concern is addicts abusing the system which being an ex junkie I've seen plenty of. I'm assuming it would work the same as probation. If you are using aid from our society obey the rules that go with it. Personally I wouldn't care about bud. I just don't want some alcoholic or junkie using my cash for their fix. And honestly having known quite a few people on welfare. They never applied themselves. They contribute nothing to society yet expect hand outs.
Yeah its not drug war's fault at all, blame the junkies.
People applying themselves can do just as much bad as good. Blind ambition is just as pointless as no ambition.
Honestly can't argue with that. I can't blame the war on drugs for my addiction though only me. I knew what could happen when messing with it and took full responsibility. Took a week of worked and locked myself in my apartment with xanax and bud.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Mescalean]
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Also imo no ambition is a waste of a person. Ambition is why we have what we have today, the good and bad.
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I disagree
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal]
#19308159 - 12/21/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've got some views that are pretty left and others the are pretty centre. I guess over all I sit left
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: zappaisgod]
#19308434 - 12/21/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: well, technically, your cash becomes the government's cash... feel better?
If my cash becomes the gumnmint's cash why should I bother accruing any?
it isn't.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: Patlal]
#19308662 - 12/21/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Mescalean, Gilgamesh, YOU ARE PEOPLE. just thought you should know.
I disagree
One is a puppet, the other one is a troll.

Troll don't be absurd just because I disagree with you I am troll absolutely ridicolous
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you hardly disagree. you can't even explain your discontent; you're just like "left bad, idealism bad" then continue to spout your ideas with no relevance or comparison to what you has said in the same breath.
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I will explain my positions more in depth if asked its a waste of time to do that in every post
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don't bother. i've heard it before, and it's of no substance. it's sorta like a parrots ideology.
words with no inherent meaning; mimicry. uninformed intellectual bartering.
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So when you can't disprove any of my positions you resort to petty insults
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thing is, there is nothing to disprove. it's hearsay.
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Hardly and you offer nothing of substance to these debates only insults
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there is no debate, hence, perfect place for insults. especially with all the lofty mimicry of users trying to pass off their opinions as if they were their own.
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: RickyBobby]
#19308921 - 12/21/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone on the shroomery is pro personal freedom pretty much I would imagine, so "left wing". The economic libertarians seem much more vocal. But like the rest of the developed world the majority of us are much more centered.
edit - NM just checked the chart, economic issues are on the x axis. http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2
So I'd say most of us are in the center. Socialists
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akira_akuma said: politics are stupid. the fact that people still go along with two party politics when it's been proven a sham, is beyond me.
I guess we have a multi-party system so its not quite the same but man thats why politics gets/is fucked up. Lots of people bitching about the system and its results and just saying "Ahh politicians sure", while not voting or participating...or even debating past "they're all corrupt
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: iarphairc]
#19309616 - 12/21/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the notion that "it all comes down to one vote" may be partially true... doesn't mean that the one vote has to be "the last vote".
no reason why the polls would sway in any other direction if it was the case that literally everyone had voted. a poll works with averages, and the average doesn't change with one person forgetting to vote.
plus, people don't just say politicians are corrupt and are done with it... they SEE that politicians cannot be trusted and SOMETIMES they have been shown to have been corrupt; throughout history... which they have...
so people are pretty clear in the assertion that politics are tricky business which major mistakes and manipulation can be had.
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akira_akuma said: the notion that "it all comes down to one vote" may be partially true... doesn't mean that the one vote has to be "the last vote".
no reason why the polls would sway in any other direction if it was the case that literally everyone had voted. a poll works with averages, and the average doesn't change with one person forgetting to vote.
plus, people don't just say politicians are corrupt and are done with it... they SEE that politicians cannot be trusted and SOMETIMES they have been shown to have been corrupt; throughout history... which they have...
so people are pretty clear in the assertion that politics are tricky business which major mistakes and manipulation can be had.
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akira_akuma said: the notion that "it all comes down to one vote" may be partially true... doesn't mean that the one vote has to be "the last vote".
no reason why the polls would sway in any other direction if it was the case that literally everyone had voted. a poll works with averages, and the average doesn't change with one person forgetting to vote.
plus, people don't just say politicians are corrupt and are done with it... they SEE that politicians cannot be trusted and SOMETIMES they have been shown to have been corrupt; throughout history... which they have...
so people are pretty clear in the assertion that politics are tricky business which major mistakes and manipulation can be had.
Praise the lord, somebody to discuss this with!
No a single vote wont do anything but I really believe its the principle. This whole thing barely holds together on the basis that everyone has a say and without voting I think you effectively lose your voice. If your not participating in the decision about who's running shit, in my eyes you should shut the fuck up. Jaded or not at least try. Though I am a meagre 20 so I'll come back in a decade and see ha ha
That is very true. I see it in my mother and her mother especially that deep-rooted cynicism and I've tried hard to stop it taking hold in me because the resulting apathy is a huge, if not the biggest, factor in how the whole thing gets even more fucked through successive generations.
I intend to run for election and I would love to see the result if a major candidate(would have to be the irish equivalent of the american parties final presidenial candidate) just said "Fuck it, We all know politicians lie and thats what has got us here..So, here is exactly what I think and want to do...You might not like it but hell at least Im actually going to do what I say and not lie about everything. While we're on the topic, I inhaled..every time"
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: iarphairc]
#19309686 - 12/21/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you try that, people will just assume that you're like all the rest; sadly.
trying to be more honest, could be seen as being "less honest", and even if you get in... whatever mistakes you make will still come back and bite you in the ass, no matter how honest or dishonest you were.
and that's what people mostly remember, mistakes... personal, and otherwise. the great stuff we do and use on a day to day basis are done just that... used and are done. no one remembers "Why" or "How" we got these things, unless you read about it in a book or on the web.
sad thing of this world; the things we create seem have infinitely more lasting appeal, and lasting use, then the people themselves who create them. these things we create are also appreciated moreso when the person who created it (how useful or inspired it is or not) has long since died.
people are fickle in the end; that's why politics is always seems to be sleezy game; even when it's not.
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I'm just about to go to sleep so no long reply but
I have no intention of actually doing so, political suicide, plus if you lie then your even worse than the rest lol
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Re: Politically Left Wing [Re: iarphairc]
#19309723 - 12/21/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, don't do it, bro. can you even say bro in office?
anyways, watch as i say something petty now... *achm*
"how very staunch of you to deny the truth of your drug use to these fine citizens, good day to you sir!"
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I am right wing, but slight right wing. I find a lot of the extreme right wing attitudes as just stupid and need to let go of the traditional past, but I find more of the left wing ideas and attitudes as overly hopeful and never able to actually work in the real world, well my case the US.
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akira_akuma said: yeah, don't do it, bro. can you even say bro in office?
anyways, watch as i say something petty now... *achm*
"how very staunch of you to deny the truth of your drug use to these fine citizens, good day to you sir!"
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akira_akuma said: yeah, don't do it, bro. can you even say bro in office?
anyways, watch as i say something petty now... *achm*
"how very staunch of you to deny the truth of your drug use to these fine citizens, good day to you sir!"
No I mean to tell the truth about everything. Damn right I'll admit to drug use, come on everyone knows all those people inhaled its bullshit ha ha
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