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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305651 - 12/20/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Look into gettting some stem and vein powder next. There are alot of people that are big on it for keeping tolerance down.
Nope not any citrus, grapefruit juice inhibits an enzyme to aid in potentiation.

Every couple days is alright, but i mean obviously the more you space it out the lower your tolerance should be. I usually try not to do it more than once every 2 weeks but I know that is on the extreme end for alot of people. Maybe twice a week would be preferable. Give yourself 2-3 days or so to reset. You've done it 3x in 5 days if I read your post correct. Are you coming off an opiate habit?


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: weshroom]
    #19305683 - 12/20/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I will definitely look into that. I figured as much, but I'm not fond of grapefruit so I had to ask.

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm mostly using it for pain relief.
I'm 22 with a 65 yr old body. I'm always in pain (not debilitating, but quite unpleasant.) I don't take opiates or any other pain killers very often because I don't wanna deal with the withdrawals after I get hooked. Kratom definitely has potential for me, just gotta into a balanced routine.

Thanks for all your help.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305701 - 12/20/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

redosing doesn't always work with kratom, for best effects eat your dose all at once.
I can't usually feel anything after 2 doses. Unless, get this, smoke some weed.

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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: Legend]
    #19305738 - 12/20/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's good info, thanks Legend. I will do my full dose up front from now on.

Lol, so weed being necessary to "potentiate"(for lack of a better term) the kratom is a fairly common occurrence then?


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305806 - 12/21/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why the pain if you dont mind me askin?

Also, careful not to overdo it. Ive taken too much and it was pretty damn bad. Constant throwing up into the next day and a gnarly hangover. For me that was from just 8g red vein sumatra, im a small guy though.
I find if I eat a couple hours after I dose it helps the kratom settle in and Im less inclined to get sick. Have some ginger on hand incase you do go alittle high.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: weshroom]
    #19305818 - 12/21/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i usually puke if i eat more than half a teaspoon on an empty stomach. Which
sucks because i take 1-2tsps usually. So i usually eat about 45 minutes after dosing.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: weshroom]
    #19305847 - 12/21/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Both my knees and ankles are just fucked from playing sports and doing dumb shit when I was younger. And my back is messed up because I've had physically demanding jobs where I didn't practice proper lifting techniques and I tried to be superman. Heredity also comes into play.

I did throw up about 5 hrs into the 10g of maeng da, but haven't even had nausea otherwise.
What does a tsp equate to in grams?


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19305848 - 12/21/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus, I would consider the 10g of maeng da all at once combined with the weed comparable to maybe 30-40mg of oxy...

Maybe try more than 6.5g of kratom?




Fuck, really? I hardly feel anything from 12g's of Super Borneo Red. I dont even get sick or anything, and apparently its supposed to be really good (from this source) :shrug:


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305852 - 12/21/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What does a tsp equate to in grams?




I think a tbsp is about 6g so a tsp is about 2g?


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #19305855 - 12/21/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, that'll be easier than weighing it out every time.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305863 - 12/21/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lol, if you have a scale then why didnt you just test it out for yourself? You probably should still because different powders can weigh different amounts/take up different volumes.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #19305869 - 12/21/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Teaspoons vary, but my teaspoons are exactly 3.5 grams.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #19305872 - 12/21/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because I'm an American and I want everything, including information, handed to me.

Lol, truth be told I just didn't plan on redosing for a couple days, and hadn't thought of it before Legend mentioned tsps.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305880 - 12/21/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Kratom has serious tolerance IME, also different strains can have virtually no effects on me compared others... I do well with Maeng Da Thai (Red Vein) and Super Green Malay, while others like Bali & Maeng Da Thai (white vein) don't do much for me... But after about 3 consecutive days of any kratom, I get just about zilch from it, and nothing has compared to my first few times using it, even giving myself weeks off... I get more results w/ 9-11g now adays though... Also staggering doesn't work very well for me, just take the max you conceivably want to take all at once and forget about redosing later, too much of a refractory period in my experience.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305888 - 12/21/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't use a spoon other than a measuring spoon like these

And you level the top off.
At least that way everyone's measurements are the same and no just some random spoon of any size they pulled out of their drawer.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #19305901 - 12/21/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I use to just wash back a couple well rounded tablespoons, but I've became a total sissy about it of late.. :puke:  I encapsulate, roughly .75g of powdered per capsule and take roughly 12 of em most times.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19305907 - 12/21/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Kratom has serious tolerance IME, also different strains can have virtually no effects on me compared others... I do well with Maeng Da Thai (Red Vein) and Super Green Malay, while others like Bali & Maeng Da Thai (white vein) don't do much for me... But after about 3 consecutive days of any kratom, I get just about zilch from it, and nothing has compared to my first few times using it, even giving myself weeks off... I get more results w/ 9-11g now adays though... Also staggering doesn't work very well for me, just take the max you conceivably want to take all at once and forget about redosing later, too much of a refractory period in my experience.




The kratom tolerance seems to vary greatly from person to person, baaed on what I've read.
For me, it's likely to be as you describe, so I'll either be stocking up, or spacing out my usage more than I'd prefer to.
I can deal with that either way. I do see the potential.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305910 - 12/21/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just remember it's a very mellow drug, don't chase the high or you'll be
disappointed. Just love it for what it is. It's truly as beautiful as cannabis.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: Legend]
    #19305926 - 12/21/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The high is just a plus. Like I said, I'm mostly looking for the pain relieving benefits.
I'm gonna have to experiment and see what doses at what intervals work for me.


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Re: Kratom and weed [Re: TopPmz]
    #19305930 - 12/21/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

please do. It worked awesome for reducing fever, body aches, and fatigue when i had the flu. So it's nice to keep in the medicine cabinet.


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