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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19307231 - 12/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm just gonna start watching that fucking show. I've heard about it way too many times, I've seen boardgames and a bunch of other shit about it.

Its starting to annoy me that I don't know WTF that show is about.



Have you ever watched Rob Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory?




What the flying fuck is that?????



It was on MTV for the longest time. He's a shitty overaged skateboarder who buys dumb shit and does dumb shit. Same stuff as Duck Dynasty, except they are rednecks and they bitch more.




Bitchy rednecks... The world wouldn't be the same without em.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19307237 - 12/21/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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even the far right state of Georgia had medical marijuana laws on the books
in 1980 which proves that prohibition has been and always will be a move
from the left to restrict your freedoms because leftists hate freedom




Is that sarcasm?


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Patlal]
    #19307263 - 12/21/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Canada is also leftist as fuck.... go figure.




canada is so left that the left seems right




We are very economically and fiscally conservative. It's the reason we survived the recession.

Our social values are slightly left of center. Just the way I like it.

We kinda cherry picked the good stuff from the right and and combined it with the good stuff from the left. It worked beautifully.





Bs, canada is not economically conservative in the slightest and the reason ee weathered the recession is our abundance of resource exports.  The fact that you think we are conservative just shows how far left canada and canadians are. Ironically in canada we fund left wing programs by raping our natural resources.

when you cherry pick left and right wing policies that is called Fascism.  Some would say fadcism works beautifully, especially people like the ones who want to stifle free speech.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19307294 - 12/21/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i've never seen the show, but it would seem A&E has the right to do whatever they want with THEIR business. if they don't want to be represented by his comments then fire his ass. I know the conservatives are super butt hurt over this.




A&E is doing just that, the funny part is that the family has come forward,
they've told people to read the rest of what was stated by the guy, not just
what a few media whores are pushing and they've also stated that if the old
man is not on the show that they will walk away as well. who would have
thought that if you ask a 70 year old christian redneck what his opinion is
on something that he would give it...

there's also a 'boycott' of A&E and duck dynasty goods going on facebook,
while it may not be that damned effective against the station, the
promotion of the duck commander goods my do more to make these folks even
wealthier so just like with the boycott against Chik-fil-a when the owner
stated he doesnt agree with gay marriage, they stayed flooded with
business, they were reaching record sales because the boycott backfired

so what is all of this? it's 'gotcha' journalism, it's journalists making
the news, it has nothing to do with anything other than to keep some stupid
shit in the public eye so they can say 'look at all the victims of this
hatred' when in reality, not a single person was hurt by some old mans
statement against gays and if someone really did get their feelings hurt
over it, they should consider growing the fuck up






I often disagree with you, but this is the opposite of those times  :congrats:


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Shins] * 1
    #19307302 - 12/21/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Canada is also leftist as fuck.... go figure.




canada is so left that the left seems right




We are very economically and fiscally conservative. It's the reason we survived the recession.

Our social values are slightly left of center. Just the way I like it.

We kinda cherry picked the good stuff from the right and and combined it with the good stuff from the left. It worked beautifully.





Bs, canada is not economically conservative in the slightest and the reason ee weathered the recession is our abundance of resource exports.  The fact that you think we are conservative just shows how far left canada and canadians are. Ironically in canada we fund left wing programs by raping our natural resources.

when you cherry pick left and right wing policies that is called Fascism.  Some would say fadcism works beautifully, especially people like the ones who want to stifle free speech.




That free speech thing always comes back...

It's a cultural thing. We have no problem with free speech, we have a problem with hate speech meant to provoke. We are world renouned because of our Canadian politeness. Hate speech incites violence and intolerance. It doesn't have a place in our culture. Although it's not illegal, it's just frowned upon very badly and there's a certain invisible line that you should not cross. We have to many people from different backgrounds/countries/religion etc. Somehow everyone coexists happily up in here and we want to keep it that way.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: JonnyBtreed] * 1
    #19307308 - 12/21/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OK... it's not even worth my time to respond. I don't have the time to do a point by point to every comment, and I really couldn't be bothered, especially with such absurd strawmen like "Quawonk doesn't think we should have free speech" but I will respond with this. Take it or leave it.

If governments try to stop people criticizing (not outright hating or discriminating against) religion or criticizing politicians and leaders then I'll stand beside you guys in protest. But that's not what we're talking about here, we're talking about hate toward a group based on something they cannot control, and based on no logic or evidence, just pure hate. As long as laws stick to outlawing hate speech against things people cannot control (sexual orientation, gender, race, disability, age, etc.), I'm in favor.

You like to pretend that speech doesn't affect people, but if that was true, there would be no advertising industry, nor political campaigns. Hate speech makes people's lives unlivable. If it goes on for long enough, and is spread far enough, people have to live a lie, live in fear, live in shame, and that is not healthy. I believe that the right to live free from persecution is the most important value. Certainly much more important than giving these disgusting bigots a platform because a 200 year old document says to, and for no other reason.

There is no excuse for defending this kind of hate and we should start thinking outside the box a little bit. But you Americans refuse to budge on your dogmatic, absolutist positions, so this is really a waste of my time, wouldn't you agree?


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Patlal]
    #19307312 - 12/21/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That free speech thing always comes back...

It's a cultural thing. We have no problem with free speech, we have a problem with hate speech meant to provoke. We are world renouned because of our Canadian politeness. Hate speech incites violence and intolerance. It doesn't have a place in our culture. Although it's not illegal, it's just frowned upon very badly and there's a certain invisible line that you should not cross. We have to many people from different backgrounds/countries/religion etc. Somehow everyone coexists happily up in here and we want to keep it that way.




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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Quawonk] * 1
    #19307340 - 12/21/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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But you Americans refuse to budge on your dogmatic, absolutist positions, so this is really a waste of my time, wouldn't you agree?




I wouldn't. Who paved the way for the rights of homosexual people again? Russia perhaps? lol

You're mixing up the issues. Most Americans don't give a shit what gays, blacks, whites, indians, whatever want to do. It's become a matter of Free Speech vs. Employee responsibility.

We are big on free speech here in the States. If you couldn't tell. Whether people support HIS RIGHT to say it, or whether they support WHAT HE SAID are two very different issues.

You seem to feel that people shouldn't have the right to say hurtful things. Which is bullshit. We have the right to say whatever we want and we've gotten many things accomplished that other countries couldn't because of this right.

By the way, it's sounds an awful lot like you're grouping all Americans together and calling us narrow minded conservatives who can never admit to being wrong. Sounds an awful lot like hate speech to me... Hmmm weird.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Quawonk]
    #19307367 - 12/21/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why do you hate free speech so much?


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Quawonk]
    #19307382 - 12/21/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OK... it's not even worth my time to respond. I don't have the time to do a point by point to every comment, and I really couldn't be bothered, especially with such absurd strawmen like "Quawonk doesn't think we should have free speech" but I will respond with this. Take it or leave it.

If governments try to stop people criticizing (not outright hating or discriminating against) religion or criticizing politicians and leaders then I'll stand beside you guys in protest. But that's not what we're talking about here, we're talking about hate toward a group based on something they cannot control, and based on no logic or evidence, just pure hate. As long as laws stick to outlawing hate speech against things people cannot control (sexual orientation, gender, race, disability, age, etc.), I'm in favor.

You like to pretend that speech doesn't affect people, but if that was true, there would be no advertising industry, nor political campaigns. Hate speech makes people's lives unlivable. If it goes on for long enough, and is spread far enough, people have to live a lie, live in fear, live in shame, and that is not healthy. I believe that the right to live free from persecution is the most important value. Certainly much more important than giving these disgusting bigots a platform because a 200 year old document says to, and for no other reason.

There is no excuse for defending this kind of hate and we should start thinking outside the box a little bit. But you Americans refuse to budge on your dogmatic, absolutist positions, so this is really a waste of my time, wouldn't you agree?




surely you can see how you contradicted yourself in this statement


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Pureless] * 2
    #19307403 - 12/21/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ironic isn't it. 3 paragraphs scolding us for being not thinking openly and the fourth labeling us as a whole.

Hypocrisy is hilarius sometimes.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: JonnyBtreed] * 1
    #19307560 - 12/21/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its a very slippery slope.  I bet many leftists would like to call criticizing obama hate speech.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Shins]
    #19307764 - 12/21/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Back on topic-

Hahaha This had me laughing my ass off-

Best part is the pictures of the duck dynasty guys before they were on TV.











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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: berdinwall]
    #19307869 - 12/21/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Never seen it, dont care about the news either. This post is as involved as ill ever get


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19307884 - 12/21/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's ridiculous how you label stuff as hate speech because you don't agree. He was just stating his opinion which is based on a book that's been around for a thousand years give or take.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19307913 - 12/21/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think it's ridiculous how you label stuff as hate speech because you don't agree. He was just stating his opinion which is based on a book that's been around for a thousand years give or take.





That's the thing.  Leftists want to arbitrary call opinions that differ from theirs hate speech.  Today its duck dynasty, tomorrow criticizing leftist policies will ba hate speech.  Just like in the soviet union they want to be able to take you away if you express a dissenting opinion.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19307916 - 12/21/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

? I was replying to Quawonk's post about Americans. Not Phil.


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Re: Duck Dynasty [Re: Shins]
    #19307950 - 12/21/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think it's ridiculous how you label stuff as hate speech because you don't agree. He was just stating his opinion which is based on a book that's been around for a thousand years give or take.





That's the thing.  Leftists want to arbitrary call opinions that differ from theirs hate speech.  Today its duck dynasty, tomorrow criticizing leftist policies will ba hate speech.  Just like in the soviet union they want to be able to take you away if you express a dissenting opinion.



I always thought the idea of anti-hate speech laws were to keep muthafucaks like the Westboro Baptist Church from running around with "gawd hates geys" signs at soldiers funerals.
There's a reason Canadians don't give a shit about them, they don't have to hear about it on their front lawn


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    #19307991 - 12/21/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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GreyMorph said:
I think it's ridiculous how you label stuff as hate speech because you don't agree. He was just stating his opinion which is based on a book that's been around for a thousand years give or take.





That's the thing.  Leftists want to arbitrary call opinions that differ from theirs hate speech.  Today its duck dynasty, tomorrow criticizing leftist policies will ba hate speech.  Just like in the soviet union they want to be able to take you away if you express a dissenting opinion.



I always thought the idea of anti-hate speech laws were to keep muthafucaks like the Westboro Baptist Church from running around with "gawd hates geys" signs at soldiers funerals.
There's a reason Canadians don't give a shit about them, they don't have to hear about it on their front lawn





And why do you think you should have the right to stifle the right for the westboro babtist church to peacably assemble and speak freely?

do you not see the dangers in setting a precedent for limiting speech? 

That's some soviet style orwellian shit dude.  Highly unwise.  You only are fine with it because their opinion differs from yours.  Imagine if the government made it illegal to talk about shrooms, how would you like that?  Limiting speech is extremely dangerous to intellectual thought and development.  You want to make things thought crimes.  Its extremely distressing to know people so short sighted and unwise like you exist!  Let me guess you're a left winger?


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    #19308001 - 12/21/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't believe I need to lecture people on why freedom of speech is important.  WTF have the leftists done to america??


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