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4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible
    #19305007 - 12/20/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Reporting my experience on a high dose (70mg) trip.

I have tripped on 4-aco-dmt a few times before at lower doses of 30mg and under, which is a fairly strong trip in itself.
Although it does have characteristics of mushroom trip with dmt-like visuals, I find the come up smoother and easier to handle, although I never really get much out it compared to dmt or shrooms.

The other day, I decided to finish the rest of what I had, which amounted to about 70mg, which is a very high does for 4-aco, but I thought I'd be able to handle it, since it always felt a pretty easy-going substance to me.

What ensued was the most terrible trip I have ever had, unlike any other.
Now, I know what a bad trip is, I have had several on shrooms before, but this was not a bad trip. It was not a trip in any sense of the word..

Now, this is extremely difficult to put in words but I will try.
I was in a park, on a sunny day, great weather, with very few people around, not many people visited here.
About 30 minutes in, it started to hit me hard. At first, everything brightened, and the world became extra 3-dimensional, at this point, all good, felt like a slow entry into a deep DMT trip. But here is where is started to fall apart.



Space started to flatten, like the entire world looked like it was projected onto a 2d surface. Imagine taking a photograph of what you see in front of you and printing it out. Now you have a 2d image of what you see. Hold the paper in front you, and then tilt it so that the image slowly faces upwards, until it lies almost flat. See how the image appears to flatten out onto a 2-d surface?

That was exactly what was happening to the world. Everything began to flatten, and almost disappear. At this point, I started to get a little scared, I'd never felt or seen anything like this on any of my other trips. Suddenly, everything started falling apart, like the world was made of paper, and bits started shredding off. The trees, the clouds, the ground, they all started falling away. A feeling of dread swept over me, as my arms, legs, head, were falling away. I was left nothing more than bits of my torso. It was a disgusting feeling. The landscape went barren, almost desert like, what remained of trees were burnt and torched.

If this was hell, I was there. I just couldn't believe it, everything was falling apart and I had lost control of it all.

Calm down, I thought to myself, this can't be happening, nothing made sense, it was extremely chaotic. Where were the DMT visuals, the beautiful fractals that I was used to? I was confused. I felt like I had irreversibly destroyed everything the universe had come to be.

After what seemed like an eternity of agony and confusion, things started pulling back together again, the world began to piece itself together correctly and I began to feel relief. But this didn't last long. It had the wave like nature of a shroom trip, where peak experiences came in several waves. "no, no, no", I repeated as things began falling apart again.

This happened several more times, before I was able to hold things back together, and the trip came to an end.

Utterly disgusting and sickening is the closest I can come to describe it.

I cannot recommend 4-aco-dmt to anyone, EVER after this trip. It felt extrememly dangerous at this dose, it broke apart the world in ways that were unnatural, harsh. I have had a few bad shroom trips before, but always felt I still learned from it, and was grateful for being taught a lesson in all my previous experiences, but on 4-aco-dmt, the same cannot be said.

You know that hyper-real understanding of reality that DMT trip produces? That strange feeling like everything falls into place, and becomes as it is? Well, I felt like this trip went in the opposite direction of that, it tore apart any notion of nature, love, unity, and sense, and induced feelings of disgust I would not wish upon anybody.


Stick to shrooms and dmt, natures proven gift.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: dropbear]
    #19305079 - 12/20/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What's different about the 4-aco compared to other DMT extractions?


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: D-App]
    #19305105 - 12/20/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a bad trip to me. Bad and good trips are worlds apart even in character alone. I have had DMT trips as you described. Shit happens sometimes. Don't blame the drug, you took more than twice your highest dose of a drug that has a very strong response curve and weren't prepared for what followed


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19305152 - 12/20/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its a subjective experience. take a break from 4 aco dmt, I was having similar horrific trips from 4 aco DMT, but I think its partly due to the fact I used it 25 times in the span of 6 months haha


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19305282 - 12/20/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Agentchewy said:
its a subjective experience. take a break from 4 aco dmt, I was having similar horrific trips from 4 aco DMT, but I think its partly due to the fact I used it 25 times in the span of 6 months haha




God fucking damn, was it the only drug you were using?


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: dropbear]
    #19305317 - 12/20/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a pretty solid dose


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19305401 - 12/20/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

JacksonMetaller said:
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Agentchewy said:
its a subjective experience. take a break from 4 aco dmt, I was having similar horrific trips from 4 aco DMT, but I think its partly due to the fact I used it 25 times in the span of 6 months haha




God fucking damn, was it the only drug you were using?




It was just doing the job for the longest time and its incredibly cheap to thrust you to where you want to go, if youre familiar with some of my stories I had a 65mg trip that turned me away from it for good where I wasn't even sure if I ever "left" the trip.

From time to time I still question this reality as just being a breakthrough and I will eventually return to my body haha.

thats some strong for sure!


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19305422 - 12/20/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds intense! I wanna try it soon


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19305433 - 12/20/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

lol ^


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: AndersonCoopmasta]
    #19305446 - 12/20/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

30mg would have this machine rolling.

70mg? wow


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: Cavemen]
    #19305511 - 12/20/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sounds like an intense "break"through. Reminds me of my salvia trip. Did/do you feel a sense of appreciation to be back?


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: weshroom]
    #19305561 - 12/20/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The only thing i wonder about that is that you said it took 30 minutes to hit you hard.  Any time I've done more than 30mg it has knocked me dick-silly in about 15 to 20 minutes where I think I'm dying, losing my mind, not coming back, and just getting everything really distorted and warped. 

Also, it fries my ass hard with body sensations.  but I understand.  I had a 4-aco trip that was in black-and-white and i didn't think I was 'tripping' :grin: And stuff was kind of flat and bland and lifeless, and I felt very dysphoric and sick.  :shrug:


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: dropbear]
    #19305799 - 12/21/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

70mg is a really massive dose. I'm not at all surprised by your report. That feeling of everything falling apart is common in high dose experiences.

If you take the equivalent of that large of a dose of any psychedelic it'll be just as bad.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt high dose, terrible [Re: dropbear]
    #19308400 - 12/21/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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Great report.

RC discussion is not allowed in here sorry. Gotta lock.


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