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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19305059 - 12/20/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would take three .1's and not worry about it
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Big_Dave]
#19305070 - 12/20/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have been addicted to kratom, dosing 2-3 times a day, and taking mdma didn't trouble me while dosing even at the same time.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Snotfish]
#19305085 - 12/20/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So you have actually done the combination and had no problems ?
Ok thanks. I'm starting to feel safe about it.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#19305087 - 12/20/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There really isn't much information on the internet about mixing Kratom and MDMA that I can find.
Here's one report:
"So I took 4g of red leaf kratom (normal dose for me) at 8pm. Felt it good, came down a little and took .2 of good molly. Hour later, no dialted pupils and only slight euphoria. So I took about .2. About an hour later I threw up, so my body had enough of something but my brain didn't really feel it. I've heard they go together well, and esp as a comedown. Just kinda of a warning/story. Enjoy your evening everyone."
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1mkcd8/
Another:
"On page 3 of the Kratom combinations thread SWISnapper (post 55) mentions experiencing "uncomfortable tachycardia" following using Kratom after a heavy dose of methylone (which is quite similar to MDMA)."
"Swim doesnt think that this is a safe combination, as MDMA is telling ones body and heart to speed up, while the kratom is telling ones body to slow down. The strain caused by this can damage ones body and heart and isn't safe to do. It's the same general idea as mixing opiates with MDMA. Swim suggests saving the kratom or opiates for the comedown, as they help greatly and take away that strung out nasty feel swim gets after a long night (or 2 nights) out partying with my good friend MDMA. Stay safe and have fun!"
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51891
Another:
"Kratom should not be used in conjunction with cocaine, amphetamine, MDMA, methamphetamine, yohimbine, large doses of caffeine or other stimulants. This is due to the risk of increased blood pressure and possibility of over-stimulation."
http://www.trykratom.com/combining-kratom-with-other-drugs
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@LIWYM Yes, it was obvious that's what you were referring to. What I was saying, is that it's wrong It's a very common misconception, that keeps getting spread even on the Shroomery.
It doesn't confuse the body. What do you think they treat stimulant OD's with?
@moon While the active in kratom does resemble an MAOI, I've heard of people combining the two more than a few times. You're planning on taking the MDMA with friends, right? I might be a little nervous if I was dosing alone, but fine if I were with company.
Have fun MS 
P.s. If you're nervous at all just keep etiz on hand. It will lower your BP, but take away from the experience. I save them for coming down.
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Yeah..... I'd still do it. It for sure sounds like a fun time.
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Big_Dave]
#19305116 - 12/20/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ohhh the things we do in our youth.
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Like... have a good time??
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Big_Dave]
#19305131 - 12/20/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya, without thinking about the consequences.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: pcplease]
#19305145 - 12/20/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks all. Even if the combination is potentially risky I would technically be doing it four hours after the Kratom , which is technically the duration of Kratom according to erowid, so really it won't be a combination at all, as the Kratom should basically have worn off by the time I take the MDMA.
General consensus seems to be that it will be safe. A few people on the shroomery have done the combo without problems even when dosing at the same time.
I will be with friends and I will have etizolam on hand if needed.
I think I am going to go for it. The dose of Kratom (3 tsp) is not that big and it will have been four hours ago. The dose of MDMA (.1) also will not be that big.
I will drink lots of water...
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Quote:
lifeiswhatyoumake said: Ya, without thinking about the consequences.
I think actually researching the consequences is a little more important than going off heresay; helps stop the spreading of misinformation
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19305154 - 12/20/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You know, I barely even feel the Kratom any more. In another hour I will probably almost not feel it at all. I figure if I can't even feel the Kratom it's unlikely to interact significantly with the MDMA.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: pcplease]
#19305159 - 12/20/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did. See my previous post where I listed several reports of people mixing Kratom and MDMA.
And it's "hearsay".
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you'll be fine I've had kratom on MDMA, bk-MDMA, meth, MXE and probably a few others that i cant remember
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19305174 - 12/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks bro! So you have also tried the combo and been ok ! So a few people here have done it without problems. Most people (about 8/10) seem to be saying it will be fine. And really how long does Kratom last? Because unless it lasts longer than 4 hours it shouldn't even really be a combination.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19305188 - 12/20/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think realistically your concern should be is it safe to assume my MDMA is really MDMA. Kratom is just a bunch of placebo bullshit.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19305190 - 12/20/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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depends on the strain, most last about 4 hours for me green malay tends to last longer. at around 6 hours
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#19305191 - 12/20/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said: Kratom is just a bunch of placebo bullshit.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#19305192 - 12/20/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said: Kratom is just a bunch of placebo bullshit.
You have had bad Kratom then. Good Kratom is awesome.
Or you have an opiode tolerance from using harder opiode drugs, hence why the kratom didn't work for you.
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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#19305195 - 12/20/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Kratom is just a bunch of placebo bullshit.
you don't know what you're talking about.
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