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Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ?
    #19304674 - 12/20/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi guys ! I urgently need an answer to this question! Please help!

Is it safe to take MDMA 3.5 hours after dosing Kratom?

I have been taking kratom throughout the day and really want to take MDMA at 11 pm tonight .

Is this safe to do?

Thank you very much!


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #19304689 - 12/20/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure to take more mdma than usual.

And get ready for a shitty tomorrow? Idk


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19304864 - 12/20/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the answer ! Can anyone else confirm that it's nothing to worry about ?


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19304879 - 12/20/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't confirm it with any evidence, but I agree with Dave.
I wouldn't hesitate to do it if I had both.


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19304912 - 12/20/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Thanks for the answer ! Can anyone else confirm that it's nothing to worry about ?




I asked the same thing but with mushrooms and I was told mitragynine is structurally similar to MAOI's so I wouldn't risk it honestly. MAOI + MDMA = bad stuff


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19304913 - 12/20/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, kratom is a stimulant, depressant, and intoxicant.
MDMA is an euphoric empathogen, stimulant, and phenethylamine.

So.....

Mixing stimulants with depressants is never a smart choice.

If I were you I'd just be patient and wait until tomorrow to take the MDMA.


Kratom Classification
MDMA Classification


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19304925 - 12/20/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Party poopers:grin:


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19304928 - 12/20/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would say it's relatively safe...
kratom is an opiate
MDMA is an amphetamine

Don't take too much of any of these substances together to be on the safe side. Moderate doses at maximum.

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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19304941 - 12/20/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Damn! I was stupid to take Kratom. I really want to do MDMA tonight. All my friends as my wife will be and dancing all night. Hate to miss out...


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19304946 - 12/20/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19304956 - 12/20/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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kratom is an opiate





False.
Kratom is an opiode, not an opiate.

Opiates are derived from the Opium Poppy.
Kratom isn't derived from the Opium Poppy.


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19304964 - 12/20/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To be honest, it sounds like a really good time. Just make sure you stay hydrated with plenty of beer.


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19304978 - 12/20/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How much Kratom did you take earlier Moonshoe?


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19304999 - 12/20/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
So.....
Mixing stimulants with depressants is never a smart choice.




:smirk: Not at all true. Don't add to the propeganda :wink:

If you're thinking about the "speedball risk", that is the risk of doing so much depressant/heroin that when the stimulant/coke wears off, you go into respiratory depression. Some drugs do add extra stress on the heart when combined, coke and alcohol for example, but saying "stimulants+depressants = inherently wrong" is just misinformation.


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: pcplease]
    #19305006 - 12/20/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was referring to the effects the synergy of Kratom and MDMA would have on Moonshoe's heart.
Mixing a stimulant and depressant confuses the body, which can result in cardiac arrest.

IMO, it's not a smart choice to make.


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: pcplease]
    #19305016 - 12/20/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

pcplease said:
Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
So.....
Mixing stimulants with depressants is never a smart choice.




:smirk: Not at all true. Don't add to the propeganda :wink:

If you're thinking about the "speedball risk", that is the risk of doing so much depressant/heroin that when the stimulant/coke wears off, you go into respiratory depression. Some drugs do add extra stress on the heart when combined, coke and alcohol for example, but saying "stimulants+depressants = inherently wrong" is just misinformation.




Pcplease I always value your opinion , do you think I would be safe?

I took 3 tsp Kratom at 7:15, but had dosed 3 times previously starting in the morning .

Did 5 tsp about 10 am, another 5 at about noon, another 5 at about 4 and finally 3 at 7pm.

I am moderately to mildly high on Kratom right now. The MDMA capsules are a .1.

It's going to be really hard to say no. Would taking one mg of etiz make it safer or less safe?


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19305022 - 12/20/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

SkeletalSpore said:
kratom is an opiate





False.
Kratom is an opiode, not an opiate.

Opiates are derived from the Opium Poppy.
Kratom isn't derived from the Opium Poppy.



thanks for correcting me, I was under the impression that opiates = opioids


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19305038 - 12/20/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19305040 - 12/20/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would be dosing MDMA 4 hours after my last dose of Kratom.  If high blood pressure is the risk would taking an aspirin or an etizolam help?


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Re: Is it safe to mix Kratom with MDMA ? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19305052 - 12/20/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Erowid says Kratoms duration is 2-4 hours, and I will be dosing MDMA four hours after the Kratom so it should mostly have worn off by then. I'm thinking its probably pretty safe.


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