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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19304421 - 12/20/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:

Around $100k.




That'll serve you well on your deathbed...

I've seen it. Not pretty. And quit calling me trying to 'make amends'...you had your chance...etcetc


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304518 - 12/20/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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My parents did that shit. from bottom class to gated community.

They're fuggin worthless and bitter ass fuckers... miserable.

Just sayin, I've seen what 'focus on money' does...not interested...




I agree with you in part, but in reality not having money sucks. I once had someone ditch out ln me and my friend when we were trying to start a band, we were close to be able to record some stuff and dude just randomly ditches (possibly to focus on his own career) it doesn't help to be giving if it could **** you over.

It's true money isn't everything but at the same time I think being broke sucks.

I don't want to be homeless and live in other peoples houses my whole life.

Ideally I would want to be making money while also working towards improving my own projects.

If I don't help myself first how could I help anyone. 

Even some top musicians admit that some of their tours are to make money.  It can be a pretty hard society to get around in without any money.

It's in part a balancing act anyway I think.  I can imagine having a few extra hundred or even more dollars a week or month can be spent on some heady electronic music equipment. :hypnotic:


Edited by skatealex2 (12/20/13 07:00 PM)


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2] * 1
    #19304521 - 12/20/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

9-5 isn't bad, but 5 days a week is too much IMO.  A more balanced 4 day work week is nearly the rule in the Netherlands.  Germany works around 400 less hours per year than the USA and still maintains a healthy economy.  Life > Work


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19304531 - 12/20/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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blankk said:
9-5 isn't bad, but 5 days a week is too much IMO.  A more balanced 4 day work week is nearly the rule in the Netherlands.  Germany works around 400 less hours per year than the USA and still maintains a healthy economy.  Life > Work




I need to move...they also have the best music...

Faun and OMNIA...


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19304556 - 12/20/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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skatealex2 said:
Quote:

SuperSillyUs said:
My parents did that shit. from bottom class to gated community.

They're fuggin worthless and bitter ass fuckers... miserable.

Just sayin, I've seen what 'focus on money' does...not interested...




I agree with you in part, but in reality not having money sucks. I once had someone ditch out ln me and my friend when we were trying to start a band, we were close to be able to record some stuff and dude just randomly ditches (possibly to focus on his own career) it doesn't help to be giving if it could **** you over.

It's true money isn't everything but at the same time I think being broke sucks.

I don't want to be homeless and live in other peoples houses my whole life.

Ideally I would want to be making money while also working towards improving my own projects.

If I don't help myself first how could I help anyone. 

Even some top musicians admit that some of their tours are to make money.  It can be a pretty hard society to get around in without any money.

It's in part a balancing act anyway I think.  I can imagine having a few extra hundred or even more dollars a week or month can be spent on some heady electronic music equipment. :hypnotic:





true that have listened to enough music to know it;s true, Herbie Hancock, etc...


http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019628,00.html

IOW, the very poor, and the very rich...both miserable fuckers.
Cash =/= happiness. Bottom line.

Take more mushrooms.



took a book, and went into the forrest...if I could just do one perfect thing I'd be happy...


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19304582 - 12/20/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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blankk said:
9-5 isn't bad, but 5 days a week is too much IMO.  A more balanced 4 day work week is nearly the rule in the Netherlands.  Germany works around 400 less hours per year than the USA and still maintains a healthy economy.  Life > Work




And it all comes back to pussy, watch Doug stanhope


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #19304594 - 12/20/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Focus on ''pussy' = sTD = unhappiness.

Living life with your dick =?= happiness.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304631 - 12/20/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SuperSillyUs said:
Quote:

skatealex2 said:
I agree with you in part, but in reality not having money sucks. I once had someone ditch out ln me and my friend when we were trying to start a band, we were close to be able to record some stuff and dude just randomly ditches (possibly to focus on his own career) it doesn't help to be giving if it could **** you over.

It's true money isn't everything but at the same time I think being broke sucks.

I don't want to be homeless and live in other peoples houses my whole life.

Ideally I would want to be making money while also working towards improving my own projects.

If I don't help myself first how could I help anyone. 

Even some top musicians admit that some of their tours are to make money.  It can be a pretty hard society to get around in without any money.

It's in part a balancing act anyway I think.  I can imagine having a few extra hundred or even more dollars a week or month can be spent on some heady electronic music equipment. :hypnotic:





true that have listened to enough music to know it;s true, Herbie Hancock, etc...


http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019628,00.html

IOW, the very poor, and the very rich...both miserable fuckers.
Cash =/= happiness. Bottom line.

Take more mushrooms.



took a book, and went into the forrest...if I could just do one perfect thing I'd be happy...





Word.  Really I'm trying to get to the point where I'm at least making enough money to afford some stuff and a place to live - like the article says I don't think over flowing with money would make a big difference after a certain point.  I don't need millions or anything like that.  In a way I don't care about money that much - but I think it could help with essentials like a place to live - make it cool, music equipment and whatever else.

When I first took mushrooms I think I almost wanted to throw away my wallet but realized in society that could screw me over cause I had my car there and the wallet was needed to get home - gas, etc.  and someone else would take advantage of it. It's all retarded really. Also if I make money no random persons taking it from me - exept sometimes the government with their taxes - what a scam.  I think some taxes are ok but now America's taxed like ****. 


Edited by skatealex2 (12/20/13 07:19 PM)


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19304650 - 12/20/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
Jobs that pay more usually give you more vacation time, benefits, overtime. All that good shit. It seems like a pretty simple answer. Besides, 9-5 isn't a fucking grind. Try 12 hour rotating shifts, that's a grind.



Jobs that pay more usually don't have any of those things at all.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304656 - 12/20/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SuperSillyUs said:
Focus on ''pussy' = sTD = unhappiness.




no focus on pussy = unhappiness

lose-lose bro :sorry:


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19304658 - 12/20/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Focus on money = unhappiness.
Bottom line.

Just want to make a living, not be fucking people over, and die with a clear consciousness. Yes, consciousness.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304666 - 12/20/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

broke, lonely consciousness


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19304677 - 12/20/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

blankk said:
Quote:

SuperSillyUs said:
Focus on ''pussy' = sTD = unhappiness.




no focus on pussy = unhappiness

lose-lose bro :sorry:





It may be an unfashionable thing to say but, pussy isn't reality.

Go ahead and live your life as if pussy = #1 thing. Gud luck.

Sucker.
Had more pussy than you, got the pics to prove it,  and guess what...?

Still a  miserable bastard...


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304695 - 12/20/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

never said it was my #1 focus.

pics or it didn't happen.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304705 - 12/20/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are the jobs equally fulfilling?


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304878 - 12/20/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Idk dude. maybe its just how you're looking at it. I work construction, from 6 - 2:30, 5 days a week(6 if I'm lucky), and work fast to get jobs done and do them as cheaply as possible to make as much money as possible. I can't say its the most thrilling thing in the world but for the most part its not un-enjoyable. So I don't get it, everyone in the picture( me, the contractor, the customer, and my boss)is focused on money, but generally end up happy with the work. Nobody gets screwed over because we're "just focused on the money" and I get to go home in the early afternoon actually feeling like I accomplished something. The work would probably not be very engaging and fun for someone less mechanically inclined but its good for me. Plus I get to work on jobsites all over the area, meeting all kinds of people, and don't have to worry about drug tests.

I don't know how old you are but I'm running with the assumption that you're probably in you're early 20's and looking for some kind of entry level position of some sort.  I know for a fact that nearly every kind of skilled labor type of employer likes to hire young unskilled people as apprentices for a variety of reasons. So maybe go that kind of route and be the guy installing equipment in music studios or something and use that as a stepping stone to get to know the people in the recording business. Like I said, I dont know whats best for you but the possibilities are endless.

Bottom line is: if you're doing something engaging and challenging, you probably won't hate your job, it won't be a grind, you won't be screwing over customers, and if you manage your money well, you'll be joining the legions of other people out there that consider themselves to be generally happy with their life.

A 9-5 job that you hate is not the option that you want to take. I wouldn't work in a non-engaging office type job if they offered to pay me double what I make now.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19304980 - 12/20/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah.  I don't really work jobs I hate.  I only called it a grind as analogy to the type of hours worked.  I have a couple options at the moment tho.

One job I do has random hours and can be done from home pretty fast and at random times so it's legit to me in that way - another possible job would be more of a set hours kind of thing -  i'm not into waking up early but it is a chance to possibly get a place and make legit money which could help fund other projects too.      But yeah if I was working a job I hated I might rather play video games or something.

With music I'm into listening and making up music - I'm not into the technical side of it but more the music itself.  I don't think I would be able to handle being in a band for a while - so I'm not looking for that at the moment.    But if I can afford music equipment and start doing electronic stuff that is something that interests me. That may be what I want to focus on at some point.    At the moment making music with my laptop would be stupid cause it glitches even when I have too many internet web pages open.    :hypnotic:


Edited by skatealex2 (12/20/13 08:22 PM)


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19305043 - 12/20/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, well in that case I must say that at least in my life, having a set work schedule really makes it easy to plan anything ahead of time.

I worked as a cashier at one point and my schedule was determined and revealed to me with a weeks advance. Having a set work schedule is a huge advantage. Period.

Also, I'm not a morning person either but it's seriously nice to get off work in the summer and still have 6-7 hours of daylight left. Based on the info, I'd go with the steady work hours if both jobs are close in enjoyability... Depending on what kind of traffic you'd have to deal with. I think I'd have to invest in a gun and one bullet if I had to deal with rush hour around here everyday.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19305065 - 12/20/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Big_Dave said:
Idk dude. maybe its just how you're looking at it. I work construction, from 6 - 2:30, 5 days a week(6 if I'm lucky), and work fast to get jobs done and do them as cheaply as possible to make as much money as possible. I can't say its the most thrilling thing in the world but for the most part its not un-enjoyable. So I don't get it, everyone in the picture( me, the contractor, the customer, and my boss)is focused on money, but generally end up happy with the work. Nobody gets screwed over because we're "just focused on the money" and I get to go home in the early afternoon actually feeling like I accomplished something. The work would probably not be very engaging and fun for someone less mechanically inclined but its good for me. Plus I get to work on jobsites all over the area, meeting all kinds of people, and don't have to worry about drug tests.

I don't know how old you are but I'm running with the assumption that you're probably in you're early 20's and looking for some kind of entry level position of some sort.  I know for a fact that nearly every kind of skilled labor type of employer likes to hire young unskilled people as apprentices for a variety of reasons. So maybe go that kind of route and be the guy installing equipment in music studios or something and use that as a stepping stone to get to know the people in the recording business. Like I said, I dont know whats best for you but the possibilities are endless.

Bottom line is: if you're doing something engaging and challenging, you probably won't hate your job, it won't be a grind, you won't be screwing over customers, and if you manage your money well, you'll be joining the legions of other people out there that consider themselves to be generally happy with their life.

A 9-5 job that you hate is not the option that you want to take. I wouldn't work in a non-engaging office type job if they offered to pay me double what I make now.




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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19305103 - 12/20/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Big_Dave said:
Oh, well in that case I must say that at least in my life, having a set work schedule really makes it easy to plan anything ahead of time.

I worked as a cashier at one point and my schedule was determined and revealed to me with a weeks advance. Having a set work schedule is a huge advantage. Period.

Also, I'm not a morning person either but it's seriously nice to get off work in the summer and still have 6-7 hours of daylight left. Based on the info, I'd go with the steady work hours if both jobs are close in enjoyability... Depending on what kind of traffic you'd have to deal with. I think I'd have to invest in a gun and one bullet if I had to deal with rush hour around here everyday.




I hear that.  I think it's possible if I adjust my schedule it could help me a lot.  Really my schedule gets kind of messed up cause I get to sleep pretty late if I could get to sleep earlier and change when I sleep I could see it being cool. 

The person who told me at the job said if I did it, it would be easier to go in earlier since it would avoid traffic that way.  Traffic is annoying so I usually try avoid that whenever possible.  The guy offering the job is someone I know as well so it is legit, I could also simply try it and see how it goes he told me if I don't like it I can tell him to go fuck himself lol, so it doesn't hurt to try it anyway.

It would be nice to get my own place too - I think ultimately that would make things easier to adjust and also pursue my interests - I feel like having my own place could offer a bit more freedom - that coupled with money to explore electronic music shit could be cool lol.  :hypnotic:


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