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Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money?
    #19303383 - 12/20/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Say for example you got offered 40,000 - 60,000 dollars a year versus something like 2,000 a month.

In one case you would be working around 8 hours a day another you might work a couple hours a week -  similar work the biggest difference being with more working you are making tens of thousands of dollars a years and have a lot more options that finances give you like where to place and anything else money could help you buy, etc....

With the lesser money you can be a lazy **** tho.

Which do you think is more worth it ?


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303394 - 12/20/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Jobs that pay more usually give you more vacation time, benefits, overtime. All that good shit. It seems like a pretty simple answer. Besides, 9-5 isn't a fucking grind. Try 12 hour rotating shifts, that's a grind.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303396 - 12/20/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nope, I will spend my entire life with ideas in my head but I will never work them out simply because i'm too tired of menial work.

If only I had millions to spend.

I think it's worth it to improve.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19303436 - 12/20/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
Jobs that pay more usually give you more vacation time, benefits, overtime. All that good shit. It seems like a pretty simple answer. Besides, 9-5 isn't a fucking grind. Try 12 hour rotating shifts, that's a grind.




Hear that.  I guess 9-5  isn't even that much in perspective.  Also if it can offer a person a legit place, etc...  not a bad deal. Also I guess more money offers more oppurtunities to invest and explore other ventures as well.  It seems like nowdays it takes money to start things up, even to run  for President can cost big  amounts of money.  I guess that's how capatlism rolls.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303484 - 12/20/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yep, that's what happens when you base an economy, belief structure, and culture on excess.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #19303497 - 12/20/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yeah. Once you get into a routine the 8 hour days are nothing. It's nice to have something to do everyday, and making money doing it!


Edited by Magicman69 (12/20/13 03:31 PM)


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303535 - 12/20/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think it depends on the work, and what you do with your free time.

If you spent your working hours doing menial shit, like putting bottle caps on bottles, then working a 40 hour week might suck.

Alternatively, if you spend your non-work time doing valuable activities that you enjoy, like working at an animal rescue or something similar, you might value your off-work time more. 

Obviously, its a balance between the two.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303567 - 12/20/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Money is nothing more than an option creator, if you are happy with your current life options then choose the less work route. If you prefer more life options as do I, than work smarter or harder, I personally work one of these 9 to 5 jobs, and have for years.

Since nearly all of life will come down to the question of, Do you have more Time, or Money, and depending on how those scales tip will depend on which options are available to you.

for example, I want to get from California to New York,

Option (A), I have all the time in the world but little to no money, I could walk or ride a bicycle and in a month or two's time get to my destination.

Option (B), I have more money than spare time, So I book an airplane flight and arrive in New York 5 hours later,

both options accomplished the same goal,

I like to have the choice of how I go about getting from point (A) to point (B)in my life, but that is a personal choice.

the one that has created the personal finance to afford option (B), still has the ability if he so chooses, to choose option (A),

But (A) with a lack of funds will have a harder time just randomly choosing option (B)


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19303573 - 12/20/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've gotten sucked into that life . Only bad part was having to quit Marijuana. I can still do Mushies and LSD tho as the random drug tests used are just quest diagnostics standard SAP 10/50. I take Kratom a lot too,so as far as available inebriation I'm content.

I like being able to live comfortably and having health and dental insurance. I'm glad I don't have a shitty obamacare plan. My health plan has maximum of 500 dollars deductible and everything else is covered. So if I were ever to be hospitalized I'd only have to pay 500 bucks even if I had some crazy disease or cancer etc. Obamacare plans are going to leave people with huge deductibles like 5- 10k dollars.

I also get two weeks paid vacation, weekends/holidays off and commission and bonus checks etc. It's definitely a trade off . I wish I could still smoke herb but I will one day. It's going to be fucking soo good when I do. I miss the taste the most , I can't really remember how it feels lol


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Lazarus.Long]
    #19303584 - 12/20/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Money is nothing more than an option creator, if you are happy with your current life options then choose the less work route. If you prefer more life options as do I, than work smarter or harder, I personally work one of these 9 to 5 jobs, and have for years.

Since nearly all of life will come down to the question of, Do you have more Time, or Money, and depending on how those scales tip will depend on which options are available to you.

for example, I want to get from California to New York,

Option (A), I have all the time in the world but little to no money, I could walk or ride a bicycle and in a month or two's time get to my destination.

Option (B), I have more money than spare time, So I book an airplane flight and arrive in New York 5 hours later,

both options accomplished the same goal,

I like to have the choice of how I go about getting from point (A) to point (B)in my life, but that is a personal choice.

the one that has created the personal finance to afford option (B), still has the ability if he so chooses, to choose option (A),

But (A) with a lack of funds will have a harder time just randomly choosing option (B)




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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Beanhead]
    #19303628 - 12/20/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why not find a job you enjoy. IMO if someone doesn't like their job and not actively looking at how they can make money doing what they enjoy, they're wasting their time.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: Big_Dave]
    #19303741 - 12/20/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why not find a job you enjoy. IMO if someone doesn't like their job and not actively looking at how they can make money doing what they enjoy, they're wasting their time.




When I hear that I always think about music.  For various reasons it's not something that's gonna work for me at the moment to play bass/guitar day and night constantly, I also don't have a band gig at the moment. 

The next best thing really would be to able to afford my own place and do something a little new.

I have not had even enough money at all to move out of my home the  past few years.  :crazy:

Various things have gotten in the way.  The jobs I'm doing, offers I have and websites I'm working on all involve the internet so at least that is something I like - I'm a big fan of the internet.  There is also more to the sites  I'm working on but it can take a few months of search engine optimizing to see how they pick up, etc

Man if I was a director making movies would be a dream but I don't have skills at that.  Maybe if I start making money I can invest in electronic music equipment and start something like that.  Who knows.  :hypnotic:


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: skatealex2]
    #19303849 - 12/20/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the best would be 9-5 doing something cool, like wandering around a nuclear power plant or manufacturing facility taking air quality samples and making sure all of the electrical equipment has the proper safeguards on them and making sure the fire systems work, etc etc etc.  sitting at a desk all day sucks, but it's worth it for the 9-5 salary, insurance, vacation, etc.

doing the hourly thing is too risky.  if i was completely involved in doing business and playing around with money and going to meetings n stuff, i would choose the riskier scenario because...  like u said u can make more.  but i just want to do my job, and then come home and NOT do my job anymore.

EDIT:  the best would be working like 5am to 2pm wandering around a facility...  getting out of work at 5pm kind of sucks.  it's so late.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: stimpson] * 1
    #19304045 - 12/20/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My parents did that shit. from bottom class to gated community.

They're fuggin worthless and bitter ass fuckers... miserable.

Just sayin, I've seen what 'focus on money' does...not interested...


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304073 - 12/20/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There's a difference between "focusing on money" and making good money.  My primary goal in life is not money but I sure do like having enough to go on vacation, buy nice things, and eventually own a nice home.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19304254 - 12/20/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Depends...

Do you enjoy the work?

If yes then it's a no brainer.

If you want to work less so you can do other things that you love to do (not being lazy) such as make music, learn new things(languages or philosophy) being adventurous(trying new things), traveling, ect then the extra hours aren't worth it.

Also...

If you want to work less hours for less money just so you could be lazy then you're a numb skull.

Ultimately working in this society blows though cause they tax the shit out of us.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19304269 - 12/20/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dude 9-5 Monday thru Friday would be the best schedule ever. I hate working Friday night and I hate missing football..


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19304270 - 12/20/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My 16 is a grind, big money.


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19304289 - 12/20/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There's a difference between "focusing on money" and making good money.  My primary goal in life is not money but I sure do like having enough to go on vacation, buy nice things, and eventually own a nice home.





"making good money"...define, please?

Seen homeless rastas, happy as a mofo.


The ultimate guide is...when you die, will you be  reasonably satisfied with your life. (Seen people die, people close to me, became bitter. Best of people, it's always bitter...but, what side where you on? money, or helping people / not screwing people over...) Big difference...


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Re: Do you think the 9-5 grind is worth it to make a lot of money? [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19304324 - 12/20/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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There's a difference between "focusing on money" and making good money.  My primary goal in life is not money but I sure do like having enough to go on vacation, buy nice things, and eventually own a nice home.





"making good money"...define, please?

Seen homeless rastas, happy as a mofo.


The ultimate guide is...when you die, will you be  reasonably satisfied with your life. (Seen people die, people close to me, became bitter. Best of people, it's always bitter...but, what side where you on? money, or helping people / not screwing people over...) Big difference...



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